Your vehicle?

[Foinikas]

What kind of a vehicle would you want to have in the Zombie Apocalypse?

An RV?A jeep?A van?A fast car?A truck?

I don't wanna hear any stupid replies like "a tank" or "a bullet-proof car" and bullocks.

A Land Rover jeep would be fine for me but if there are more than 3-4 people a nice RV would be awesome!

[Arcanine]

http://www.seibertron.com/images/news/gfx/1248015482_OP_paper_truck.jpg

[Gman5852]

Helicopters are vehicles right? Those :p

[Nonymous99]

A hummer marauder because it is best vehicle for defence.

[Chickenman]

http://www.seibertron.com/images/news/gfx/1248015482_OP_paper_truck.jpg

Especially if it turns in to a 50ft tall robot!

[Sbou]

A truck-train ( sorry i'm quebecer dunno how to said that) like two 53' attached together, one citern gas, and the other with canned food

[Pellet]

i dont get why lee and them didnt just use the train as their base
its basically a frikken armored vehicle

[Sbou]

"Get a boat, That's the plan" Kenny said

[distortion]

Bicycle. Cars are great until you run out of gas, and that'll happen fast. I'd have bicycles handy at whatever my home base is for when that inevitably happens. They're fast, light, and are the most energy efficient form of transportation man has ever invented. My group and I can keep making runs on bikes to gather supplies while all you people are hoofing it along the highway.

[DreadMagus]

Armored Car.

[Walker#8]

What kind of a vehicle would you want to have in the Zombie Apocalypse?

An RV?A jeep?A van?A fast car?A truck?

I don't wanna hear any stupid replies like "a tank" or "a bullet-proof car" and bullocks.

A Land Rover jeep would be fine for me but if there are more than 3-4 people a nice RV would be awesome!

Claiming that a viable option like a tank is a "stupid reply" is stupid in itself.
For those that live within a reasonable distance from military base it gives them the option of obtaining a tank. I personally would go after a "Stryker" which is an APC

[DreadMagus]

A tank, or an aircraft for that matter, would be stupid unless you know how to operate and maintain it. :p

[tonyyy123]

a horse and a bayonet :guybrush:

[Skizoker]

A tank, or an aircraft for that matter, would be stupid unless you know how to operate and maintain it. :p

Definitely a tank. I was a 19K20 in the Army and we primarily used the M1A1 main battle tank.

[Istibul]

Definitely a tank. I was a 19K20 in the Army and we primarily used the M1A1 main battle tank.

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I don't wanna hear any stupid replies like "a tank" or "a bullet-proof car" and bullocks.
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facepalm.jpg

P.S. monster truck ftw! :)
http://www.businesspundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/zztruck.jpg

[DreadMagus]

Definitely a tank. I was a 19K20 in the Army and we primarily used the M1A1 main battle tank.

Dude, I totally want to be on your team in a ZA. :)

[mz3]

3405

[Devlonir]

Bicycle. Cars are great until you run out of gas, and that'll happen fast. I'd have bicycles handy at whatever my home base is for when that inevitably happens. They're fast, light, and are the most energy efficient form of transportation man has ever invented. My group and I can keep making runs on bikes to gather supplies while all you people are hoofing it along the highway.

Totally agree here. Anything running on gas is only a short term solution to mobility. Especially the options like Tanks, Trucks and of course all the big american gas-guzzlers are just one way to extend the inevitable.

I'd go for an RV to begin with though. You can live in it, you can barricade it if needed, and it has room for.. Bikes! Either hang them out back or have them inside. You can use the bikes for missions from basecamp. They are quick, quiet, easilly maintained, very energy efficient and only slightly less mobile than going on foot.

Best bit: They can ensure your gas reserves are extended because you do not need to use gas when going out of base camp.

When it comes to so-called 'unrealistic' options. I guess the tank is considered one because it is literally out of gas very quickly. But many big cars have that same problem really..

[Istibul]

Totally agree here. Anything running on gas is only a short term solution to mobility. Especially the options like Tanks, Trucks and of course all the big american gas-guzzlers are just one way to extend the inevitable.


So what you gonna do if your legs get wounded? If you will find some disabled man that needs your help?

[Devlonir]

So what you gonna do if your legs get wounded? If you will find some disabled man that needs your help?

Leg wounds are near death warrants in the ZA anyway. Doesn't matter what kind of vehicle you use. You will need help from someone else to reliably get away regardless.

Also, really bad leg wounds also cause you to not really be able to drive a car as well. So point invalidated.

Also, many bikes have carriage frames where they can hold someone else in the back. These would be the bikes best suited for the ZA (not the 1000 dollar mountainbikes) So you can help someone injured back to your camp, as well as use it to carry supplies.

[Gudmoore]

http://www.blueoceantackle.com/pirate_ship_for_sale.jpg

[Foinikas]

FFS I stressed it: No stupid answers!No tanks,no weird stuff!

Now this is what you get:

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n316/Tsagia/3d_rv_m_int.jpg

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n316/Tsagia/628_620Berth20Motorhome20-20Cutaway20large.jpg

[Walker#8]

FFS I stressed it: No stupid answers!No tanks,no weird stuff


I find it hilarious that you think a tank or other military vehicle is a "stupid or weird" answer. Someone answering the millenium falcon is a "stupid/weird" answer. Using a tactical/fighting vehicle to survive in a post apocalyptic world only makes more sense than running around in say a corvette or a ferrari. You're going to run into highways that are blocked or unpassable in any "normal" vehicle. Having a vehicle built to be able to handle running into and pushing through wrecks like that makes a lot of sense to me. Seeing as how there are countless numbers of retired military in the U.S. you are bound to run into at least on survivor who would know something about the operation/maintenance of those types of vehicles. My family alone has a retired army tank mechanic and an active duty Stryker mechanic in it. So I believe I would be able to keep both types of vehicles running until the supply of diesel runs out and seeing how most people would be running for gasoline power vehicles I don't think it would run out too quickly.

[Foinikas]

Seriously mate,where will the average Joe find a tank and how will he drive/use it?You might be an exception but realistically speaking the vast majority of people will go for jeeps,vans,RVs and small cars :P

[WowMutt]

http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr146/G_wadePB/ArmoredCar.jpg

[WowMutt]

Now a fast car is a good idea
http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr146/G_wadePB/NascarPic1.jpg
Letting Duck drive is not!
http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr146/G_wadePB/NascarPic2.jpg

[Walker#8]

^^^^^ Nice I think letting duck drive would be kind of fun to watch




Seriously mate,where will the average Joe find a tank and how will he drive/use it?You might be an exception but realistically speaking the vast majority of people will go for jeeps,vans,RVs and small cars :P

I don't know what country you live in but in the U.S. as far as where the "average Joe" would find a tank is A: a military base(and in the U.S. there are states that have multiple bases within it's borders) B: In the event of a ZA the military would be called out to combat the hordes of undead attacking, some would turn some would run leaving behind the Tanks, APCs, HumVees and other vehicles driven. Driving a tank takes some getting used to but can be mastered within a few hours(getting used to the T handle controls would be the biggest match), driving a Stryker is pretty much like driving a car gas pedal, brake pedal and steering wheel and the major advantage to either is they are completely self contained no windows that can be broken in too easily leaving occupants safe to drive away and crush any zombies in their path. As far as everyone else grabbing cars, jeeps, vans, RVs, etc. all those run on gasoline leaving the diesel supplies for me and my Tank/APC which runs on a Duramax Diesel and an Allison 6speed Transmission(Which is the same combination installed in most 1 ton General Motors Pickup Trucks So anyone with knowledge working on those in the dealerships would have a leg up on maintenance).

[RoboSheriff]

Mexican tank

http://www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/tdomf/233355/mexican%20tank.jpg

[tonyyy123]

badass! ^^^

[Skizoker]

Seriously mate,where will the average Joe find a tank and how will he drive/use it?You might be an exception but realistically speaking the vast majority of people will go for jeeps,vans,RVs and small cars :P

You asked what WE would use.

I would use a tank. I was very good at what I did and I'm sure I could train others to use a tank as well. Yes, getting diesel or jet fuel would be tough, but really if I had a tank I'm quite confident I could take what I wanted. The problem is getting one and getting it stocked with ammo and fuel, but once I had that I believe keeping it resupplied would be possible.

Now, say I had never spent time in the army on tanks then I would go for a large truck. F350 or something similar or an Up-Armored Humvee.

[owner070]

Leg wounds are near death warrants in the ZA anyway. Doesn't matter what kind of vehicle you use. You will need help from someone else to reliably get away regardless.

Also, really bad leg wounds also cause you to not really be able to drive a car as well. So point invalidated.

Also, many bikes have carriage frames where they can hold someone else in the back. These would be the bikes best suited for the ZA (not the 1000 dollar mountainbikes) So you can help someone injured back to your camp, as well as use it to carry supplies.

The Biggest problem in a Zombie apocalypse is food so
No food= No energy
No Energy= How the fck are you gonna use a bike ??
Bike is useless= You have to walk biggest mistake.
You have a car?= can use it as a mini house.
You have a car?= only press gas you dont need energy for that.
out of gas?= Then your death but its the same for a bike for a bike you need energy for a car gas What's the different ?!?!

[Foinikas]

Oh gee aparently in USA it's raining tanks and there's one in every corner....

[Skizoker]

Oh gee aparently in USA it's raining tanks and there's one in every corner....

Well considering I was stationed at 2 bases in Georgia alone that has tanks I am pretty dang sure I could find one. I currently live less than 50 miles from the nearest base that has tanks.

Most states national guard even has them, but there is no telling how many Texas still has. Thousands I'm sure.

You act like they are rare. For the average person I guess it would appear that way.

[yuz989]

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2011/11/bttf-delorean-dmc-12-628.jpg

definitely -- delorean dmc-12

take me back to the pre-apocalypse !

[WowMutt]

Well considering I was stationed at 2 bases in Georgia alone that has tanks I am pretty dang sure I could find one. I currently live less than 50 miles from the nearest base that has tanks.

Most states national guard even has them, but there is no telling how many Texas still has. Thousands I'm sure.

You act like they are rare. For the average person I guess it would appear that way.

I was just looking quickly for a news article I read last week about a huge storage of tanks somewhere in California. It was about how many their were and not being used.. just sitting there.

[Foinikas]

Don't take me wrong,I LOVE TANKS!I'm the guy who loves tanks and not jet fighters,but telling me "i will have a tank in the zombie apocalypse" is like all those kids who go like "OH I WILL HAVE A ROCKET LANCUHER AND I AM GOINAA TAKES MACHINE GUN AND PEW PEW KILL ALL OF THEM".Know what I mean?

[WowMutt]

Don't take me wrong,I LOVE TANKS!I'm the guy who loves tanks and not jet fighters,but telling me "i will have a tank in the zombie apocalypse" is like all those kids who go like "OH I WILL HAVE A ROCKET LANCUHER AND I AM GOINAA TAKES MACHINE GUN AND PEW PEW KILL ALL OF THEM".Know what I mean?

Yea, you're trying to be realistic.. The vast majority to survivors in a ZA would not have access to a tank or other military weapons/vehicles. But there are those who could. I remember watching the show as the group passed by over-run military area's and wonder why no one is grabbing the weapons, or vehicles.

[Love88]

A solar powered hybrid...hopefully by the time the zombie apocalypse comes these will have been invented.

[Walker#8]

Don't take me wrong,I LOVE TANKS!I'm the guy who loves tanks and not jet fighters,but telling me "i will have a tank in the zombie apocalypse" is like all those kids who go like "OH I WILL HAVE A ROCKET LANCUHER AND I AM GOINAA TAKES MACHINE GUN AND PEW PEW KILL ALL OF THEM".Know what I mean?

Don't get me wrong I'm fully understanding as to trying to make people keep it realistic but you've got to take into account the fact that there is the strong possibility that someone with working knowledge of those types of vehicles would not only want to get one but also be in the vicinity to obtain one. With the amount of active duty and retired military in the U.S. the odds get higher(instead of 1 out of 100 you could realistically have 9-12 out of 100).

Yea, you're trying to be realistic.. The vast majority to survivors in a ZA would not have access to a tank or other military weapons/vehicles. But there are those who could. I remember watching the show as the group passed by over-run military area's and wonder why no one is grabbing the weapons, or vehicles.

I thought the exact thing, an abandoned military post/outpost would be a haven for discarded weapons and ammunition.

[Skizoker]

Don't take me wrong,I LOVE TANKS!I'm the guy who loves tanks and not jet fighters,but telling me "i will have a tank in the zombie apocalypse" is like all those kids who go like "OH I WILL HAVE A ROCKET LANCUHER AND I AM GOINAA TAKES MACHINE GUN AND PEW PEW KILL ALL OF THEM".Know what I mean?

You are right the average person would not have a clue what to do with a tank. But, I just happen to be someone who spent over 10 years on the M1A1 and does know what to do with a tank.

So, I can't change my answer. That is what type of vehicle I would look for first.

Here is a pic of me and my platoon when we were training to go to Bosnia sometime in 1995.

I'm the 2nd guy above the main gun.

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/t/eawno.jpg

Can click here for larger size (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/eawno)

Well, for some reason this forum is only showing a thumbnail version of the picture and I can't figure out how to show a larger size.

[TheShooter]

A weaponized RV, the reason is it can kill all the zombies in the way, has a space at the back if someone wants to sleep or eat.

[distortion]

The Biggest problem in a Zombie apocalypse is food so
No food= No energy
No Energy= How the fck are you gonna use a bike ??
Bike is useless= You have to walk biggest mistake.
You have a car?= can use it as a mini house.
You have a car?= only press gas you dont need energy for that.
out of gas?= Then your death but its the same for a bike for a bike you need energy for a car gas What's the different ?!?!

So you're saying if you're dying of starvation you'd have enough energy to drive a car? Dude, if you're that weak you're not able to do ANYTHING, regardless of the kind of transportation you have. Like Devlonir said, you can have both bikes and cars, use cars only when you have to, and use the bikes to make quick supply runs. Whatever you find can be stuck into backpacks to carry while on the bike. If you don't think that backpacks would be big enough to carry supplies, the time people would realize bikes are better is when they have used up all their gas, so they wouldn't have much choice, PLUS there are those hiking backpacks. I own one myself, has a storage space of 70 liters which is more than enough space to carry food for a few days for several people...if you can even find that much food after everything has been stripped clean.

[Foinikas]

@Skizoker You lucky b*stard,you were in an Abrams....here in Greece we've got 170 Leopard 2A6 HEL,183 Leopard 2A4,501 Leopard 1A5 and 390 M-48A5 MOLF.

[Skizoker]

@Skizoker You lucky b*stard,you were in an Abrams....here in Greece we've got 170 Leopard 2A6 HEL,183 Leopard 2A4,501 Leopard 1A5 and 390 M-48A5 MOLF.

We learned about the Leopard 1 and 2A6 when we had to do our vehicle ID to make sure we didn't light any up on accident. If my memory serves me right isn't the Leopard 2A6 about the same weight as the Abrams? 63 tons? And doesn't it also have 120mm main gun? If I recall the Leopard isn't anything to scoff at.

[cormoran]

If I was going to make man-powered supply runs I'd use this.
http://upload.ecvv.com/upload/Product/20086/China_electric_tricycle_DSX_80_48_20086711380810.J PG

[Chuck Daly]

Toyota Prius

My goal is to avoid the walking dead, not attract them. With the Prius you trade off the ability to run over zombies and go off road, but gain the ability to drive through town being noticed less, and needing significantly less fuel.

I too am a believer in the use of bicycles for food runs and Recon. Vehicles are really only useful for finding long term shelter or moves of desperation.

[owner070]

So you're saying if you're dying of starvation you'd have enough energy to drive a car? Dude, if you're that weak you're not able to do ANYTHING, regardless of the kind of transportation you have. Like Devlonir said, you can have both bikes and cars, use cars only when you have to, and use the bikes to make quick supply runs. Whatever you find can be stuck into backpacks to carry while on the bike. If you don't think that backpacks would be big enough to carry supplies, the time people would realize bikes are better is when they have used up all their gas, so they wouldn't have much choice, PLUS there are those hiking backpacks. I own one myself, has a storage space of 70 liters which is more than enough space to carry food for a few days for several people...if you can even find that much food after everything has been stripped clean.

Dude do you have a Fkng brain that works good ?? A BIKE A FKNG BIKE!? one punch in the face and your down like little chicken.
I dont think you will find supply on the corner shop because everything would be stripped clean like you said, so you have to travel far and i dont think you will travel 5 hours with a bike for some shit supply's that you can use for 7 days or something and i think you woul'd be tired and need some food to eat to recover from your 5 hours bike ride and there will be not every where enough meds and food so you will drive your bike use it and use it you will lose fat and get weaker and die. and i dont think your a professional marathon rider.

[nublar93]

2013 Jeep Wrangler Shahara SUV with a winch.

Some of my goals of survival is to find weapons and supplies, rescue friendly survivors, take care of my family, and avoid walkers at all times. If my jeep gets stuck I can use the winch line to free my car.

[sbock]

Well, I simply would take the car from my garage, an Audi A5 convertible:


http://www.autoplenum.de/Bilder/P/p0505697/AUDI/AUDI-A5-Cabrio-2-0-TFSI-multitronic--2009-.jpg

Ideal for drive-by shooting... ;-)

[Trilobyte]

http://i47.tinypic.com/15p343r.jpg

Of course this is a joke.

In reality what I'd want is a dirtbike. Yeah, they run on fuel but don't need much, have offroad capabilities, are fast and maneuverable, and if you run out of fuel they're light enough to move on your own so you can hide it until you find gas.

I don't think it's going to be possible to go very far with any standard type of car, and what would be the point anyway? Where the hell do you think you're going? I think the guy who said bicycle was thinking in terms of scavenging missions from a home base area rather than travelling. It's much easier to survive in one place than if you keep moving locations. Of course sometimes you have to move locations. But to me a dirtbike is the best trade-off all-around for scavenging and in a pinch you can travel with it although obviously it's not the best vehicle for that. You can always throw the dirtbike in someone's pickup truck though. ;)

[Foinikas]

We learned about the Leopard 1 and 2A6 when we had to do our vehicle ID to make sure we didn't light any up on accident. If my memory serves me right isn't the Leopard 2A6 about the same weight as the Abrams? 63 tons? And doesn't it also have 120mm main gun? If I recall the Leopard isn't anything to scoff at.

Sorry what does scoff mean? :/

Leopard 2A6 if I remember correctly is similar to a lot of stats with the M1A2 Abrams and it outperforms it in some sections.If I find some comparison infographics I'll post them!

[Walker#8]

Sorry what does scoff mean? :/

scoff/skôf/
Verb:

Speak to someone or about something in a scornfully derisive or mocking way: "department officials scoffed at the allegations".

Noun:

An expression of scornful derision.


Synonyms:
verb. mock - jeer - deride - gibe - sneer - ridicule - flout
noun. mockery - derision - ridicule - taunt - gibe - jeer

Or in the more common use: To take lightly

[Walker#8]

Leopard 2A6
Armour 2A6: 3rd generation composite; including high-hardness steel, tungsten and plastic filler with ceramic component.
Main
armament 1 x 120 mm Rheinmetall L55 smoothbore gun[1]
42 rounds
Secondary
armament 2 x 7.62 mm MG3A1[1]
4,750 rounds
Engine MTU MB 873 Ka-501 liquid-cooled V-12 Twin-turbo diesel engine
1,500 PS (1,479 hp, 1,103 kW) at 2,600 rpm
Power/weight 24.1 PS/t (17.7 kW/t)
Transmission Renk HSWL 354
Suspension Torsion-bar suspension
Fuel capacity 1,200 liters[3](317 US gallons; 264 imp. gal)
Operational
range 550 km (340 mi) (internal fuel)
Speed 72 km/h (45 mph)

M1A1 Abrams
Armor Chobham, RH armor, depleted uranium strike plates, Kevlar mesh[citation needed]

M1: Hull & turret – 350 mm vs APFSDS, 700 mm vs HEAT[5][nb 1]
M1A1: Hull & turret – 600 mm vs APFSDS, 700 mm vs HEAT[6]
M1A1HA: Hull – 600 mm vs APFSDS, 700 mm vs HEAT, Turret – 800 mm vs APFSDS, 1,300 mm vs HEAT[6][7][nb 2]
M1A2: Hull (turret) – 600 (780 mm) mm vs APFSDS, 800 mm (1,060 mm) vs HEAT[5][not in citation given]

Main
armament 105 mm L52 M68 rifled cannon (M1)
120 mm L44 M256 smoothbore cannon (M1A1, M1A2, M1A2SEP) with 42 rounds
Secondary
armament 1 × .50-caliber (12.7 mm) M2HB heavy machine gun with 900 rounds
2 × 7.62 mm (.308) M240 machine guns with 8,800 rounds (1 pintle-mounted, 1 coaxial)
Engine Honeywell AGT1500C multi-fuel turbine engine
1,500 shp (1,120 kW)
Power/weight 24.5 hp/t (18.27 kW/t)
Transmission Allison DDA X-1100-3B
Suspension Torsion bar
Ground clearance 0.48 m (1 ft 7 in) (M1, M1A1)
0.43 m (1 ft 5 in) (M1A2)
Fuel capacity 500 US gallons (1,900 l; 420 imp gal)
Operational
range M1A2: 426 km (265 mi)
Speed M1A2: Road 56 km/h (35 mph)
Off-road: 40 km/h (25 mph)

[SpikeJack1]

Any old banger I can find. But if I got it my way, realistically speaking, then an old red pick up truck (pretty durable, carries plenty of survivors/supplies)
http://www.myballard.com/images/red_pickup.jpg
Or, since irony is top of my list when looking for a car in the ZA, then an old ghostbuster's-type, 1959 cadillac hearse! :P
http://www.classiccarprojects.com/inventory/59cad_hearseps.JPG

[TheGsoldier]

Oh gee aparently in USA it's raining tanks and there's one in every corner....

Well I live in atlanta and he has a point. there are plenty of bases in the US. I hate to sound stereotypical but a lot of people in the US take pride in weapons, and the military. In other countries weapons are almost taboo.

[Digestif]

http://i.imgur.com/9Dv98l.jpg

A motherfucking Zeppelin.

- doesnt need fuel to stay up in the air
- i can fly wherever the fuck I want
- spit out of the window on pesky little survivors and zombies

[Bearcules]

The Flinstones-mobile is my choice. It has unlimited power plus storage space for my giant rib slabs.

[Kelium]

You are right the average person would not have a clue what to do with a tank. But, I just happen to be someone who spent over 10 years on the M1A1 and does know what to do with a tank.

So, I can't change my answer. That is what type of vehicle I would look for first.

Here is a pic of me and my platoon when we were training to go to Bosnia sometime in 1995.

I'm the 2nd guy above the main gun.

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/t/eawno.jpg

Can click here for larger size (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/eawno)

Well, for some reason this forum is only showing a thumbnail version of the picture and I can't figure out how to show a larger size.


Thats really cool! Thank you for your service in the military I admire our soldiers/veterans in the armed forces very much.


For my choice of vehicle I would want this because there are a lot of them around here and I could requisition one easily. Plus having a standard transmission would be beneficial because most people cant drive a manual transmission at all.

http://www.4-the-love-of-jeeps.com/images/1988JeepYJWranglerSml.jpg

Or I would want to get one of these babies :cool:

http://www.brandchannel.com/home/image.axd?picture=2010%2F11%2Fwalkingdead_challeng er.png

[Foinikas]

Hey is that a Jeep Wrangler?!!

[Skizoker]

Thats really cool! Thank you for your service in the military I admire our soldiers/veterans in the armed forces very much.


For my choice of vehicle I would want this because there are a lot of them around here and I could requisition one easily. Plus having a standard transmission would be beneficial because most people cant drive a manual transmission at all.

http://www.4-the-love-of-jeeps.com/images/1988JeepYJWranglerSml.jpg

Or I would want to get one of these babies :cool:

http://www.brandchannel.com/home/image.axd?picture=2010%2F11%2Fwalkingdead_challeng er.png

You're welcome and thank you for the nice comments.

I wouldn't mind having either vehicle you listed for when you don't need 63 tons of steel :cool:

[tavax91]

3414
with lots of fuel in the back :P

[thestalkinghead]

i can look out my window and see ones like these almost every day

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bf/HMS_Daring-1.jpg/800px-HMS_Daring-1.jpg

this is stationed at my city (HMS Montrose)

http://www.scenicreflections.com/files/HMS_Montrose_Wallpaper_u0byw.jpg

[SpikeJack1]

Well I live in atlanta and he has a point. there are plenty of bases in the US. I hate to sound stereotypical but a lot of people in the US take pride in weapons, and the military. In other countries weapons are almost taboo.
Yeah. I'd be hard pressed to find a simple pistol let alone a rifle in the UK, so I'm screwed unless we come across a police HQ or army base, the latter bing highly unlikely!

(In case you didn't know, it's illegal to be in possesion of firearms in the UK. Only special police, spies or the military carry weapons! No gun stores either, which is pretty safe but not when the world goes to shit!)

[Chuck Daly]

One important thing to remember is that gasoline has a short shelf life, so unless you know how to refine your own petroleum into gasoline. Diesel is the way to go. Converting a VW Golf Diesel to run on vegetable oil or even a Ford F-350 may be a better long term solution. Here in the NE, many supermarkets were picked clean due to Hurricane Sandy, but there was no shortage of Crisco and Wesson on store shelves.

[owner070]

http://www.zonnepanelen-info.nl/images/39.jpg
Who the fck needs gas ?!

[WowMutt]

Yeah. I'd be hard pressed to find a simple pistol let alone a rifle in the UK, so I'm screwed unless we come across a police HQ or army base, the latter bing highly unlikely!

(In case you didn't know, it's illegal to be in possesion of firearms in the UK. Only special police, spies or the military carry weapons! No gun stores either, which is pretty safe but not when the world goes to shit!)

Your semi-right.. I have looked up UK gun laws out of simple curiosity and basically they are not illegal to own, one just needs to apply and show proof for the need of a certain kind of gun.

If interested, here's a link with a little more detail.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_the_United_Kingdom

[WowMutt]

3414
with lots of fuel in the back :P

this would be awsome

[Ricardo Kusabi]

Exactly the same vehicle!!!!!!!!

[walkerbait00]

3414
with lots of fuel in the back :P

perfect for mowing down zombies this thing is awesome

[thestalkinghead]

Your semi-right.. I have looked up UK gun laws out of simple curiosity and basically they are not illegal to own, one just needs to apply and show proof for the need of a certain kind of gun.

If interested, here's a link with a little more detail.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_the_United_Kingdom

yeah there are actually lots of guns in england, but nobody (with the odd exception) wants them in people's houses or just generally in the hands of people that don't need them (self defence doesn't count as needing them), but military bases and police stations would have loads of guns and people that live in the countryside may have some rifles or shotguns for hunting and pest control, and then of course the are illegal guns as well.

[Typicaljacob]

i dont get why lee and them didnt just use the train as their base
its basically a frikken armored vehicle
trains require a shit ton of diesel and battery. once it runs out youre screwed. once it hits the end of the train line, youre screwed because it didnt have a rear engine to it. i dont think trains can go backwards considering all the diesel trains i see always has a foward and rear engine. and lastly, they dont know the train system well, they wouldnt know when to switch the tracks to keep from reaching the end. :)

[Bananapatcher]

http://www.thisiswhyimbroke.com/diesel-powered-mechwarrior

here is a picture.

http://www.thisiswhyimbroke.com/diesel-powered-mechwarrior

[Jokieman]

What kind of a vehicle would you want to have in the Zombie Apocalypse?

An RV?A jeep?A van?A fast car?A truck?

I don't wanna hear any stupid replies like "a tank" or "a bullet-proof car" and bullocks.

A Land Rover jeep would be fine for me but if there are more than 3-4 people a nice RV would be awesome!

http://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/raptor/ For land excusions.

For my new house: http://blog.cavotec.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/carnival-cruise_ship.jpg

Doesn't even have to leave the dock. Just raise the gang planks. :p

Huge kitchens, plenty of entertainment, lots of storage space, great views, build in pool. Built in Generators. hehehe. And if we want we can go to that island that Disney Owns (not densely populated) and clear it out. :)

[Typicaljacob]

Yea, you're trying to be realistic.. The vast majority to survivors in a ZA would not have access to a tank or other military weapons/vehicles. But there are those who could. I remember watching the show as the group passed by over-run military area's and wonder why no one is grabbing the weapons, or vehicles.

well, most of the placement guns you see are M2 50 calibers and such. those are heavy and so is the ammunition from it. i think, i think. just think. that they didnt take the weapons because rick already had a bag of guns and ammunition (plus the fact that lori didnt like guns) and tanks attract alot of noise. they are very. very. loud and you can even feel the tremors from them. walkers will be all over it. you run out of gas? well you got walkers all over you. most military vehicles are loud. some APC's on the other hand, they're moderately quiet and fast and armoured so thats my choice vehicle (LAV-25).

[Skizoker]

well, most of the placement guns you see are M2 50 calibers and such. those are heavy and so is the ammunition from it. i think, i think. just think. that they didnt take the weapons because rick already had a bag of guns and ammunition (plus the fact that lori didnt like guns) and tanks attract alot of noise. they are very. very. loud and you can even feel the tremors from them. walkers will be all over it. you run out of gas? well you got walkers all over you. most military vehicles are loud. some APC's on the other hand, they're moderately quiet and fast and armoured so thats my choice vehicle (LAV-25).

That isn't entirely true. Tanks used to be very very loud. The M1A1 uses a gas turbine engine and in my opinion makes less noise than an APC.

Now when the main gun fires that is an entirely different story :D But, I don't think it would be used a whole lot in a zombie apocalypse.

[Devlonir]

That isn't entirely true. Tanks used to be very very loud. The M1A1 uses a gas turbine engine and in my opinion makes less noise than an APC.

Now when the main gun fires that is an entirely different story :D But, I don't think it would be used a whole lot in a zombie apocalypse.

I think the noise of the tracks on asphalt are a lot more than an APC does when travelling. And the fact that you can literally feel it in the ground when a tank moves is also very much true.

Don't forget: TWD Armies probably got beaten because their movements probably attracted every zombie in a huge radius to come over towards them. If you already see how strongly they react to one helicopter flying over or a train coming by, how would they react to a tank rolling by?

[Skizoker]

I think the noise of the tracks on asphalt are a lot more than an APC does when travelling. And the fact that you can literally feel it in the ground when a tank moves is also very much true.

Don't forget: TWD Armies probably got beaten because their movements probably attracted every zombie in a huge radius to come over towards them. If you already see how strongly they react to one helicopter flying over or a train coming by, how would they react to a tank rolling by?

M1A1 have rubber pads on the track and don't make extremely loud noises. It isn't quiet by any means but it doesn't require hearing protection.

Here is a few youtube videos. The only time the tank makes an obscene amount of noise is when you punch it and the turbine winds up really high, it can be pretty tactical if you know what you are doing.

Plus this next video shows you some of the stuff you can get through...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCXwgPZXScM

Here is one of a road test during OSUT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ltqh-DYIx4o&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP8B9YjK09I&feature=related

And as to how they would react to a tank rolling by? Do you have any idea what a tank would do to a zombie? You could literally probably drive over thousands of them and nothing they could do would stop the tank.

Tankers call enemy infantry "Track grease" for a reason.

[Devlonir]

And as to how they would react to a tank rolling by? Do you have any idea what a tank would do to a zombie? You could literally probably drive over thousands of them and nothing they could do would stop the tank.

Tankers call enemy infantry "Track grease" for a reason.

Some impressive vids, and okay.. modern tanks are probably more quiet than old ones. But the point here is not really what you can do while you can use the tank. The risk with a tank is getting a lot of Walker attention.. Indeed, walkers can't stop the tank.. but eventually the tank has to stop regardless. And once the eventual moment occurs you are out of gas and/or ammo and need to get out the chances are very big that your vehicle has attracted more Walkers than it could have killed.

This is exactly why I support the idea of using a bike for missions while having cars/RV's around a base camp if you need to change your area of operation because you are out supplies or there are too many Walkers in the area.

[Skizoker]

Some impressive vids, and okay.. modern tanks are probably more quiet than old ones. But the point here is not really what you can do while you can use the tank. The risk with a tank is getting a lot of Walker attention.. Indeed, walkers can't stop the tank.. but eventually the tank has to stop regardless. And once the eventual moment occurs you are out of gas and/or ammo and need to get out the chances are very big that your vehicle has attracted more Walkers than it could have killed.

This is exactly why I support the idea of using a bike for missions while having cars/RV's around a base camp if you need to change your area of operation because you are out supplies or there are too many Walkers in the area.

I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I feel entirely confident I could keep a tank supplied with fuel and if I ever were not able to I guess I would have to find a different mode of transportation.

[Devlonir]

I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I feel entirely confident I could keep a tank supplied with fuel and if I ever were not able to I guess I would have to find a different mode of transportation.

This isn't about keeping it supplied. This is that eventually, at one moment, you'll have to get out of the thing again. And the size/sound combination makes it attract a lot of attention. My point is: You will have a lot less rest from Walkers while driving one. And you can't survive just staying inside the tank 24/7.

Not saying it's impossible though. With a support crew and a homebase that you can keep walker free (say, an aircraft hangar where you can drive your tank into and keep all doors closed) you can survive for a long time. But actually going from A to B in it is less practical than other modes of transportation.

[Jokieman]

I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I feel entirely confident I could keep a tank supplied with fuel and if I ever were not able to I guess I would have to find a different mode of transportation.

You couldn't keep it supplied with anything else. No decent storage space. Firearms, Ammo, Food. Clothes. All that stuff takes up a lot of space.

And if it's gasoline, then you have the same problem of the fuel breaking down and causing issues. Diesel doesn't have that problem.

[Skizoker]

Yes of course you would have to have a secure base to take it to. I never said I would drive around all day every day without resting.

It holds approximately 11,000 rounds of small arms ammunition and the storage space isn't as bad as you might think. You would be surprised how much stuff you can put in a tank if you need to especially if you don't use the ammo racks for main gun rounds or small arms ammunition and the bustle racks can carry quite a bit of equipment as well.

And as for fuel breaking down the Abrams can use diesel.

[Skizoker]

By the way this is straight from the wiki page.

The tank was built around this engine[53] and it is multifuel capable; meaning that it can be powered with diesel, kerosene, any grade of motor gasoline, and jet fuel (such as JP-4 or JP-8). For logistical reasons, JP-8 is the US military's universal fuel powering both aircraft and vehicle fleets.

We only used diesel and jet fuel at the units I was stationed at but I had heard it could use any type of fuel.

[Merlynn]

Well,the second biggest problem with stuff like Walking Dead is the main characters seem to be intent on "getting somewhere else". Essentially,if the nuclear option were on the table,they'd have already flown when the first city fell to the zombie horde. Since that hasn't happened,it's probably not going to. Ergo,shit's already so fucked,even nukes can't really help so you might as well bunker in and start building a sustainable colony.

I'd start by trying to find the local water supply and reclaim that. Clean water means you got something to drink and water your farms with. Farming and scavenging weapons,food,and medicine will also be a priority as well as clearing and walling off new areas to make getting around easier. Protip: Most gun shops have silencers for various firearms available,but you need a special permit to obtain them. As civilization has collapsed,you can just take 'em from any abandoned gun shop. If they have guns,they probably have silencers. Crossbows and bows are also good,quiet killers if you're willing to learn to aim them.

Destroying the zombies will also be high on the "to do" list and should be simple so long as someone is always watching the guy out there with the axe. They're only really dangerous in hordes. I don't know why these people throw up their hands and sigh dramatically whenever they see a SINGLE ZOMBIE! It's one zombie. They have almost no mobility and their main attack is to basically fall on you. You can step backwards and they'll fall on their face and then you just hop on their heads. Point is,unlike in badly written TV shows,a zombie horde isn't endless. There's a finite number and every one you kill while it's on it's own is one less you have to deal with in a horde.

Farming can be done easily with rooftop gardens in the city and walled off farms in the country. Once you have a clean water source,you can basically hold out indefinitely. Just don't eat the seeds when you eat your tomatoes. Remember,even rotten fruit still has seeds you can use to grow new plants and,therefore,fruits and veggies.

Next order of business is to locate the local power plant and secure that. Underground passages like subways,the larger sewers,and cave systems should be exploited because they're very easy to choke off and helps eliminate the problems created by horde attacks since you can just get to a narrow area and fight them one at a time,thereby removing the only advantage they have.

So as you can see,my vehicle needs wouldn't be for long range travel but for short range transportation. Moving supplies,people,and what not just outside my fortress city. As such,I'd look for mostly hybrid cars for scout vehicles with reenforced front ends and windshields for running over zombies,though the quiet electric engines will make it easier to sneak around. Pick ups for mass transit and moving bigger gear,four wheel drive preferred. And,of course,semis with reenforced fronts for simply plowing through the horde should they mass up outside.

Additionally,I'd employ what I like to call the "boom box" method. Basically you take a big ass stereo,put a bunch of explosives around it,and then turn it on. The zombies will be attracted by the stereo,but probably won't get too close to it,that's why you put the explosives AROUND it instead of ON it. Plus,you can probably get the stereo back afterward. You'll also want to do this in an open field,park,or empty lot to avoid damaging buildings and harming any survivors who might be hiding there.

If I were on the road,I'd probably go with just the hybrid I mentioned. Any time I picked someone up,we can just sit in laps til we find more vehicles to salvage.

Additionally,bikes might be ok for moving things in a safe area,but you don't want to be on one outside the walls. Zombies behind you might alert zombies ahead for you and suddenly,you're trapped. That's why cars are better,they simply offer more protection.