Another license that Telltale should consider...

[ThatNickGuy]

I was thinking about Telltale awhile ago, thinking how great the Bone and Sam & Max games have been (I'd say CSI if I'd played them :p).

That said, and I have a feeling it would be near impossible to make this deal with Warner Bros, but...

What about a Scooby Doo adventure game? It's wrought with possibilities, especially the kid-friendly and mystery centered style.

Heck, you could even follow a similar format to Sam & Max, control Shaggy and have Scooby wandering around.

I'm surprised that the WB hadn't considered a Scooby adventure game before. It seems like an obvious direction, to me.

[Dangerzone]

my neighbors kid is on the cartoon network site all the time, they have dozens of flash besed scooby doo games on there (and other shows have games like this too)... some are adventure/puzzle based and actually seem kinda cool

[evilguy12]

I was thinking about Telltale awhile ago, thinking how great the Bone and Sam & Max games have been (I'd say CSI if I'd played them :p).

That said, and I have a feeling it would be near impossible to make this deal with Warner Bros, but...

What about a Scooby Doo adventure game? It's wrought with possibilities, especially the kid-friendly and mystery centered style.

Heck, you could even follow a similar format to Sam & Max, control Shaggy and have Scooby wandering around.

I'm surprised that the WB hadn't considered a Scooby adventure game before. It seems like an obvious direction, to me.

They have, the Learning Company made some ancient ones years ago. Besides the new Scooby Doo stuff is crap.

[jp-30]

The great thing is you could keep it true to the cartoons and rehash the same plot every episode!

[xChri5x]

I think that the Xombie flash/comic series would make an awesome adventure: http://www.xombified.com/
http://www.xombified.com/flash_07/comic_groupshot2.gif

[LuigiHann]

There are a ton of Scooby-Doo adventure games. Like you said, it's an obvious idea. There are several of them on GameTap (http://www.gametap.com/home/play/browse/index.html?filterType=0&searchTerm=Scooby%20Doo) (I tried playing one, but they're obviously aimed at a reeeeally young audience, and pretty hand-holdy and annoying). On the flip side, I remember a Game Boy Color Scooby Doo game (http://gameboy.ign.com/articles/164/164639p1.html) that was a pretty blatant knock-off of the original Maniac Mansion, and a lot more difficult.

[Croutons]

Besides the new Scooby Doo stuff is crap.
Well, Telltale could create new stories and set them in the styling of the original Scooby Doo series.

I still love the old series, though I hated almost every sequel, in fact, I hated scrappy doo. I'm willing to say that the one reason I loved the Scooby Doo movie is the fact that they made Scrappy the bad guy. I hated him so much :D

[Zachspyfox033]

I don't think Telltale should make a Scooby Doo game. A lot of people wouldn't buy it because Scooby Doo is for little kids. Even if the game isn't for little kids people will still think it is. Also, wouldn't they need to buy the right for it? My main point is that Scooby Doo is for little kids and Telltale shouldn't make it. I'm sorry if I sound a bit to harsh, but I really don't want Telltale to make a Scooby Doo game.

[ShaggE]

I don't think Telltale should make a Scooby Doo game. A lot of people wouldn't buy it because Scooby Doo is for little kids. Even if the game isn't for little kids people will still think it is. Also, wouldn't they need to buy the right for it? My main point is that Scooby Doo is for little kids and Telltale shouldn't make it. I'm sorry if I sound a bit to harsh, but I really don't want Telltale to make a Scooby Doo game.

Allow me to quote a certain character from the latest Sam and Max episode. I feel it is relevant here.


"Dude... wait, what?"

[mumbojumbo21]

I don't think Telltale should make a Scooby Doo game. A lot of people wouldn't buy it because Scooby Doo is for little kids. Even if the game isn't for little kids people will still think it is.Oh yes because children are certainly not a vast market in of themselves to explore. It's not as if there aren't any other games for that demographic. No sirree. :rolleyes:
Also, wouldn't they need to buy the right for it?That's usually how use/transfer of licenses occurr...
My main point is that Scooby Doo is for little kids and Telltale shouldn't make it. I'm sorry if I sound a bit to harsh, but I really don't want Telltale to make a Scooby Doo game.I could understand that this game probably shouldn't be made because it might not be profitable due to the tiredness of milking a very old cow and/or without a strong following for example, but it shouldn't be made because you don't want it? Who made you Caesar?

[Kaldire]

this was the most mentally devoid cartoon on at the time and remains top in the markings along with the flintstones and the jetsons... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, Only thing in anime that comes close to scooby is lupin the 3rd and those characters are at least witty..

darned american mentality.. at the time the plots for cartoons seemed to not need any structure .. tom n jerry style... same bat time.. same bat channel.. zzzz

I do want to sound harsh in saying I think scooby do is best left to the hippies that died along with its era.

Peace !

[some nerdy guy]

I know it would never happen but I'd like to see a good family guy game (the real one is ok), I mean with all the writers on strike this would be a good way to get my fix.

[Buuga]

I think, if Telltale made a new scooby dooby goom game, it would be lost among the other scooby doo games. Although it would be sure a great and indeed the best scooby doo game ever made, it would not get much significance in game media (if it was an adventure based game)
and mainly I doubt too that old-school adventure gamers would be so pleased.

[evilguy12]

Well, Telltale could create new stories and set them in the styling of the original Scooby Doo series.

I still love the old series, though I hated almost every sequel, in fact, I hated scrappy doo. I'm willing to say that the one reason I loved the Scooby Doo movie is the fact that they made Scrappy the bad guy. I hated him so much :D

Yeah but in saying that I hated all the old cartoons too. They weren't funny and were partically the same each episode.

[InvaderJim42]

Velma: "And now let's unmask the criminal and see who the Ghost really is... ... Old Man Bosco?! But why??"
Bosco: "I'm on the lookout for T.H.E.M!!"
Velma: "Them?"
Bosco: *shriek!*

[Maximillian I]

Sing it, Momma Bosco!

[MarkDarin]

I don't think Telltale should make a Scooby Doo game. A lot of people wouldn't buy it because Scooby Doo is for little kids. Even if the game isn't for little kids people will still think it is. Also, wouldn't they need to buy the right for it? My main point is that Scooby Doo is for little kids and Telltale shouldn't make it. I'm sorry if I sound a bit to harsh, but I really don't want Telltale to make a Scooby Doo game.

So, wait... do you or don't you want Telltale to make a Scooby Doo game? try to make your feelings more clear.

[Erwin]

So, wait... do you or don't you want Telltale to make a Scooby Doo game? try to make your feelings more clear.

Now, don't be so childish, Mark :p:D

--Erwin

[Zachspyfox033]

I don't want a game based on some lame cartoon show for 2 year olds.

[MarkDarin]

Speaking of Scooby Doo... did anyone ever see the Adult Swim Scooby Doo parody featuring "The famous David Cross" as the celebrity guest ... and the when the villain was unmasked, it turned out to be Jabber Jaw? And it's possible Gary Coleman was in there too... I'm not sure.

Seriously, has anyone seen it? I'm beginning to think I may have been hallucinating!

[LuigiHann]

I don't want a game based on some lame cartoon show for 2 year olds.

Oh, please. Scooby-doo is clearly aimed at children in the 6-13 range. Plus there are plenty of adults who remember the show fondly from their childhood.

[jmm]

I'd rather have a new episode of "Snarky Chimp: Railroad Madness"

"Dude... wait, what?"

Why should Telltale keep doing the same things (3rd party franchises/licenses) over and over again?
Let them develop their own stuff.
Further, maybe they should try to do things outside the adventure game alley.

[Mel]

Plus there are plenty of adults who remember the show fondly from their childhood.

*raises hand*

[xChri5x]

Oh, please. Scooby-doo is clearly aimed at children in the 6-13 range. Plus there are plenty of adults who remember the show fondly from their childhood.

6-13 year olds? You sure showed him, lol

[Kaldire]

pssst I saw the david cross thing! It was friggen great (seeking clip now!)

apparently one company.. dont know which took all the footage down.. lucky I have the clip I recorded from my dvr but fat chance I can upload it without being taken down n flagged. grrr wonder what gives

"Night Of The Living Doo "

and yep coleman and you forgot good ole luke skyWoka' Ahem sorry mr mark!! lol

yea that wasnt your eyes though.. now the mystery gang should find out why the clips are missing even from the home site.

[ShaggE]

Speaking of Scooby Doo... did anyone ever see the Adult Swim Scooby Doo parody featuring "The famous David Cross" as the celebrity guest ... and the when the villain was unmasked, it turned out to be Jabber Jaw? And it's possible Gary Coleman was in there too... I'm not sure.

Seriously, has anyone seen it? I'm beginning to think I may have been hallucinating!

Anything with Gary Coleman in it is pure gold... I must see this.

[Mel]

Info:

Night of the Living Doo (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0320160/) (imdb)

Clip from Milk and Cookies (http://www.milkandcookies.com/link/46969/detail/) (yup, it's been taken down)

[Kaldire]

Has anyone mentioned The Tick? If not I think telltale would rock on this one. It was sad to see the short lived more adult live action tv tick go so soon, I kinda liked it.

Anyway if anyone ever played fatman, id love a tick sorta in the bone and s&m style.. make something happen... ?

[Guybrush Threepwood]

http://eternallycool.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/asterix.jpg

'nuff said.

[Mysterysheep]

Earthworm Jim! God Dammit! :D

[Tester Scott]

Earthworm Jim! God Dammit! :D

That is an action platformer created by Dave Perry that is not like any of the games we make. Earthworm Jim should not be an adventure game, he is pure action.

[LuigiHann]

How about The Neverhood? :D

[Kaldire]

tester scott... thats the kind of attitude that keeps games in boxes and doesnt open em out.. I could see a asterix and obelix advent.. even RPG if someone got cocky enough
same with earthworm jim... all have great enough characters they could make something like mario rpg happen (if a game like mario can do it.. well...anything can.)

[Tester Scott]

tester scott... thats the kind of attitude that keeps games in boxes and doesnt open em out.. I could see a asterix and obelix advent.. even RPG if someone got cocky enough
same with earthworm jim... all have great enough characters they could make something like mario rpg happen (if a game like mario can do it.. well...anything can.)

There is a saying, "Stick with what your good at." While I agree the Earthworm Jim property has enough great characters and well developed world that it could possibly translate well into maybe an RPG I don't think an adventure game, at least ones like we make that don't really rely on any action sequence's, wouldn't do justice to the franchise. So I will have to stand by my initial statement.

[wisp]

now, that would be a nice challenge: a fast-paced action-oriented point-and-click adventure...sounds nice. make it so, i say. of course i have no idea how this could work..

[doom saber]

I don't know if a superhero or action hero would work well as a point and click game. With that said, I don't know how well a Tick or an Earthworm Jim game would fair out if it was point and click. Both of those properties are more about action than finding crap on the floor and use it later on to solve some dilemina they are in; I would imagine Earthworm Jim blasting a door to pieces rather than using a hairpin to lock pick the lock.

It is like trying to make a point and click game with the Street Fighter or the Major League Baseball license; it doesn't seem to translate well.

[doom saber]

Mario is different because he is more like Sam and Max, whereas he can fit into any genre of games that is thrown at him. Unlike Earthworm Jim, Mario is a fat plumber who doesn't wields a blaster around and doesn't shoot all the time. Also, he has been thrown into some slow paced games before, which worked while Earthworm Jim hasn't. It is hard to fathom a fast paced action hero like Earthworm Jim or the Tick being thrown into a situation that requires a slower pace of action.

Also, Earthworm Jim isn't known for his intelligence and afterall, he carrys a blaster around all the time. I would rather think he would shoot rather than solving a puzzle.

However, if it was an adventure game where Earthworm Jim doesn't have his power suit, that might work.

[Tester Scott]

However, if it was an adventure game where Earthworm Jim doesn't have his power suit, that might work.

You realize that without his power suit he is just a worm, right?

[tabacco]

But take away that Batmobile
That boat, that belt, that butler
He's just another boring guy
-- Aquaman's Lament, Mark Aaron James

Hmm.

[Mysterysheep]

You could have Peter Puppy as logical kind of guy trying to solve the puzzles and Jim could be used in action orientated puzzles or you could control Jim and when you get him to solve a puzzle (e.g. putting a key in a door) Jim would react violently or Peter would give him guidance. Actually scratch that idea. I've kinda lost where I was going with this:)

[doom saber]

You realize that without his power suit he is just a worm, right?

Yup. A talking worm who has the ability to comprehend things like a human being.

From what I remember in the cartoon and (double checked on wiki) the powersuit permenantly altered his physical and mental properties after takin refuge into the suit. So, if Jim loses the suit, he won't turn back to an ordinary worm.

This way, he is powerless and at the same time, be able to solve puzzles w/o relying on his power suit.

[MeaningOfLife]

Tell Tale should go steal some talents from Double Fine as they are just around the corner from each other.

Then at the same time, those Double Fine double agents and give Tell Tale the secret plan Mr. Tim's working on at this point and make it before Double Fine finds a publisher for it.

That's an easy profit right there.

[Tester Scott]

Tell Tale should go steal some talents from Double Fine as they are just around the corner from each other.

Then at the same time, those Double Fine double agents and give Tell Tale the secret plan Mr. Tim's working on at this point and make it before Double Fine finds a publisher for it.

That's an easy profit right there.

They are already making "Brutal Legend" which I believe is already pretty far into development. Also it is in a completely different vein than the types of games we make. Wouldn't it be better to have to awesome companies make more awesome games than combine them to make less.

[Tester Scott]

From what I remember in the cartoon and (double checked on wiki) the powersuit permenantly altered his physical and mental properties after takin refuge into the suit. So, if Jim loses the suit, he won't turn back to an ordinary worm.

This way, he is powerless and at the same time, be able to solve puzzles w/o relying on his power suit.

Did the suit also give him arms and possibly opposable thumbs. It would be pretty hard to solve most puzzles with what is still essentially just an abdomen.

[Kaldire]

I just dont agree here, you have played the earthworm jim on 64 have you not? throw that in a shell and make some puzzles like metriod prime.. blam you have an action platorm advent.. not point n click always but sorta like indigo phrophecy with button combo sequences and fast though and action. Sheesh, what is it you do at telltale? (haha test?)
Anyway while Id love to agree I just cant.. some of the best games are the games when devs think outside the realm of thought you seemed to have put a road block on.

I again can think of a few hundred(not literal) ways to make tick and earthworm into action adventure.

How about wow ... make up new story, so a dr used a ray on jim and it made him grow X into Y and now he can do X Y Z. New weapons new skin, not the suit in some levels, make him transform or project holograms.. like someone said.. if batman got rid of his gadgets where would he be. testerscott would have been right there telling em not to make batman since it wouldnt be prudent or correct. Idk I cant think like that, I love new ideas and stuff people dont think about or dont want to, even if it flops. Problem with devs is lack of risk taking (course you cant be insane with this or youll go under)

If you ever played the newer asterix and obleix just apply the las vegasum to earthworm.. add a few puzzles and wallah..doesnt seem that vastly hard. It would be like Psychonauts sorta...

Anyway im sure ill get slandered or ridiculed somewhere for being obtuse again.. so let em fly.
but no way do I agree :P

Funny on the thumbs part though but when has a talking rabbit with a gun made sense?... never? I rest my case... lol your witness

[Tester Scott]

I agree that innovation in games is needed. Your just suggesting we take some old IP and revamp it. It would make more sense to create new fresh material. Changing a character and world just to make it fit into a new box usually feels contrived and forced. I played Earthworm Jim 64 and while it was okay it had a ton of problems. The thing about the thumbs wasn't that it didn't make sense it was that it wasn't physically possible for him to solve puzzle's in the traditional sense. While I am sure you could come up with a creative use of Peter Puppy or something else which can explain it away but then you get into what I stated earlier about things being forced to fit into areas they shouldn't really be in. Think about a square peg trying to be put into a round hole. With enough force it will go in but will the end product after having to sacrifice all that stuff be worth it.

[jmm]

Agreed, Telltale should start making its own IPs.

If some old IP pops up, it should be similar in spirit to what Telltale makes (That means no FPS!), but without losing sight on new things.

Ok, getting back to the thread original intention:
I suggest looking into Rocko's Modern Life

[AllenB]

Oy, Nick and Will! Remember at E For All when I said that Guitar Hero/Rock Band was crap? Here's something that does the same kind of thing, but isn't crap! http://gizmodo.com/352800/guitar-rising-for-real-guitar-heroes

Back on topic, why not a game where you work in a library and have to sort books according to their Library of Congress specification numbers? Oh, wait... it exists. (http://www.library.cmu.edu/Libraries/etc/game1/game1.swf)

[doom saber]

Did the suit also give him arms and possibly opposable thumbs. It would be pretty hard to solve most puzzles with what is still essentially just an abdomen.


I disagree. He can use his tail as a limb or his mouth as a "hand." I mean, for instance, if he sees a key he picks up, he can use his tail to wrap pick it up and shallow it up. His stomach can be his inventory.

Besides, it is a game that is based off of cartoon physics. Anything could happen. Heck, he could be zapped by some beam that gives him a deformed left arm to pick up things if his mouth and/or tail is convincing enough.

[Kaldire]

hehe i just love the tick and asterix as well as earthworm, Id love to see new advances there (if you havent got a copy of las vegasum get it.. its hard to find but its worth it AKA XXL2 box in germany)

I dont know why it wont release here.

As for new IP of course I wish telltale would do that but this thread isnt about that is it? :P

I do however understand testers view on the last comment, but again dont wholly agree, though it was stated better.

[Damon]

Oy, Nick and Will! Remember at E For All when I said that Guitar Hero/Rock Band was crap? Here's something that does the same kind of thing, but isn't crap! http://gizmodo.com/352800/guitar-rising-for-real-guitar-heroes

Back on topic, why not a game where you work in a library and have to sort books according to their Library of Congress specification numbers? Oh, wait... it exists. (http://www.library.cmu.edu/Libraries/etc/game1/game1.swf)

Bah, now I can't stop playing. Thanks alot.

..E 300......

[Mysterysheep]

Did the suit also give him arms and possibly opposable thumbs. It would be pretty hard to solve most puzzles with what is still essentially just an abdomen.

Oh god! What have I created!

Okay how about this:

Scott and Doom-Saber, you're both right,
and I love you both equally as much!:p:o;):D

[Mysterysheep]

But I also love arguments! :D

I think an Earthworm Jim adventure game (in the sense of point 'n' click) would be very possible and with all the cartoon humor you guys really could pull it off! Sure, the original games were action/platformer orientated but think of it like this:

If it were to be episodic, then each episode would be similar to an episode of the animated series. For example, Jim and Peter Puppy have been kidnapped by Queen Slug-For-a-Butt and are now hanging over a pit of acid. The situation could be resolved by insulting Peter, who then transforms ripping the rope. They fall into the pit and discover it's actually full of some caffeine based drink due to the queen not being able to afford real acid.

There! How'd ya like them apples! :D

[Tester Scott]

There! How'd ya like them apples! :D

Applesauce!! Sorry couldn't help myself. Well seeing as I believe most of the Earthworm Jim art, with the exception of the 64 game, was done with sprites why don't you get Adventure Game Studio and mock up a prototype. Since you are not planning on selling and we just want to see what it would look like, and Dave Perry is a pretty cool guy, I am sure you probably won't get sued.

[Mysterysheep]

Applesauce! I...I...I.... Damn! There is no comeback!
AAAAAAAHHHH! I am DEFEATED!

Though I might have a try at making a mock-up:D
Thanks for the idea Scott!:D:p:D:p:D

EDIT: Oh by the way, don't you mean Doug Tenapel.
I'm pretty sure he owns the rights and I always thought they were his characters.

[Tester Scott]

The game was designed by both Dave Perry who created Shiny Entertainment, the games developer, and Doug TenNapel. So I am not sure who actually owns the rights.

[LuigiHann]

Doug Tennapel designed the characters, and on one of his blogs he hinted that he gets royalties when the characters are used, but it didn't sound like he had any ownership over them.

[Guybrush Threepwood]

http://www.freewebs.com/cool_ng90/0d_1.jpg

I don't think this is very likely, though.