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Keupajer
11/21/2012, 09:52 am
Am I the only one who thinks, that Kenny just might survived? I saw both ways, but none of them actually showed his dead. And in the ending reviews, it says, that we "lost him in a group of walkers".

So is he dead?

Fezzan
11/21/2012, 09:53 am
Nah he dead.

Toasty
11/21/2012, 09:54 am
I thought while he hit a walker in the face with a gun, he got bit on the arm, because he looked down at his arm, and then continued. I'm not 100% sure though. He might be alive, but he might have a limited time like Lee did.

Viser
11/21/2012, 09:54 am
How woud he get away? The walkers were coming from both sides, one of them grabs Kenny. I'm pretty sure he got completely overwhelmed.

Matrox Yang
11/21/2012, 10:04 am
I hope he lived. And the room lit up from somewhere so he could have found a door.

Keupajer
11/21/2012, 10:23 am
Well I think, that TTG is keeping the option open. So it could go both ways... That is my best guess.
But then again, why keep the door open for Kenny, if they are not going to use him...? I'm looking forward to learn, what is happening next:)

chinski
11/21/2012, 11:01 am
With both death scenes ambiguous, I doubt we won't see Kenny again.

shedim
11/21/2012, 11:03 am
Yeah sure. Katjaa is alive, too. I mean, we didn't see her dying either, so she must be alive.


Geez, Kenny will be a happy man, then.

Zeruis
11/21/2012, 11:05 am
What if...Molly saved Kenny at the last second like the ninja she is? :D

Sanchiz
11/21/2012, 11:06 am
You guys need listen more carefully. In my playthrough I can clearly hear him getting eaten alive...He saved Ben the trouble....

ieatbrains
11/21/2012, 11:07 am
He shot Ben. In other playbacks you will see different angles. We hear the shot as Ben yells out "Kenny pleassseee! So he most likely shot Ben. We never hear Kenny scream.

SaveCarley
11/21/2012, 11:08 am
In both scenarios (sacrifice for Ben / sacrifice for Christa) he doesn't actually die. You just guess so (kinda like Molly in ep 4 when you shoot her) but it's done on purpose.

george1120
11/21/2012, 11:09 am
What if...Molly saved Kenny at the last second like the ninja she is? :D

yeah, and vernon and his group come with the boat to crash the "party" while herschel brings his tractor and runs over them all.

andre will then appear zombified with zombified chet and they get killed too.

LokiHavok
11/21/2012, 11:33 am
I really do hope that Kenny is alive. And that he will be the Season 2 protagonist.

QuarterPounderVlad
11/21/2012, 11:33 am
I sure hope he survived...
I laughed out loud on the previous post.
Edit: 2 posts ago, actually. Damn you fast poster!

BlankCanvasDJ
11/21/2012, 11:43 am
Yeah sure. Katjaa is alive, too. I mean, we didn't see her dying either, so she must be alive.

The difference is, we saw her body.

Even the epilogue, if I remember right, just said he was "lost" to the walkers.

LokiHavok
11/21/2012, 11:45 am
Indeed. Lost is a pretty ambiguous term. Especially, when there or others that would have gotten the job done had he really died in that scene.

SaveCarley
11/21/2012, 11:47 am
Don't you think that if they intended to let us aware of his death they should have showed it?

Martindn
11/21/2012, 11:48 am
We can hope - it is leaning towards his death about 90%-10% but then anything can happen, we didnt hear screams or anything now he is a tough guy but he is only human...getting eaten would hurt like a bitch.

I think that whole scene was unecessarily caged though...these guys have experienced alot knew ben was screwed, say goodbye shoot him then get back up the ladder...

Kiel555
11/21/2012, 11:51 am
He was swarmed by walkers with no where to go after giving Christa a boost out of that death trap. Forget about him. He's gone.

LokiHavok
11/21/2012, 11:53 am
He was swarmed by walkers with no where to go after giving Christa a boost out of that death trap. Forget about him. He's gone.

How can you be so sure? It's not like we had a view down there. The place he was in, while dark, can't have been completely lockdown without somewhere to go.

BlankCanvasDJ
11/21/2012, 11:53 am
He was swarmed by walkers with no where to go after giving Christa a boost out of that death trap. Forget about him. He's gone.

Of course there was somewhere to go. There was a door in that room somewhere, it's not just a big empty space only accessible by a hole in the roof.

Danno123
11/21/2012, 11:55 am
Wait WHAT? I totally forgot about if you dropped Ben at Crawford that someone else would fall, but I didn't think that it would be Christa! :O

BlankCanvasDJ
11/21/2012, 12:00 pm
Wait WHAT? I totally forgot about if you dropped Ben at Crawford that someone else would fall, but I didn't think that it would be Christa! :O

It happens in a different place, in a different circumstance though.

Sodawasser
11/21/2012, 12:01 pm
Well after Lee was bitten there have been a lot of threads in which people asked if he might survive. I was 100% sure that he won't because it wouldn't suit to the walking dead universe. The surviving of Kenny would be possible because it is unsuspected. Anyway in the Ben way you see that he is surrounded by hundrets of zombies, in the Christa way he stops in the middle of the sentence while he is shouting something. That's why it doesn't look good for him. I don't believe in it but it might be possible that he will appear in season 2 as a non-zombie.

LokiHavok
11/21/2012, 12:05 pm
Also think about what Kenny said when everyone was int he room of the "suicide lovers"
SOmething along the lines of never give up and suicide is not an option.

Chuck was in a similar circumstance in the last episode.
And I believe he killed himself.
(Altho I might be mistaken)

Given these circumstances as well. It seems likely that Kenny would make a reprisal int he next season.

SaveCarley
11/21/2012, 12:05 pm
Wait WHAT? I totally forgot about if you dropped Ben at Crawford that someone else would fall, but I didn't think that it would be Christa! :O

She doesn't fall, since without ben causing walkers to show up the room is basically empty they drop the walkie talkie by mistake. Christa goes inside to get it and bum.

Omegabegin
11/21/2012, 12:14 pm
I'm pretty damn sure Ken is toast. I heard those choked-out sounds he was making, and there's no way he'd get out of there without at least a bite or a scratch with so many walkers. He's a goner.

Lost Mercenary
11/21/2012, 12:18 pm
I think he's alive. If the walkers did get him then where were his screams?

miguelr23
11/21/2012, 06:11 pm
kenny is alive maybe saved by molly or sewer/hidden door in my game hi didnt hear screams he probably shot ben

kirby18
11/21/2012, 06:14 pm
All I have to say about this is : He is dead. Telltale has done a really really really really good job about being realistic. While virtually everyone has claimed molly, lilly, carly, and now kenny is coming back - they arent. Kenny was in a non win situation anyway possible. If hes alive telltale loses the one thing that i think seperates them from other games which is being realistic (ofcourse in a zombie apocalypse) while also giving a great story. So kenny is dead.

Merc
11/21/2012, 06:17 pm
Hope is the one thing the Walkers can't take away. Kenny for season 2 protagonist.

Rock114
11/21/2012, 06:56 pm
As much as I want Kenny to live, there's no way he made it out of that room alive. He ran out of ammo saving Christa/mercy killing Ben, and was backed into a corner in the dark room or completely surrounded in the alleyway. He's as dead as Carley, Ben, Larry, or even Lee.

theline123
11/21/2012, 07:03 pm
I actually thought that throughout the entire conversation with the stranger that Kenny was just going to bust through and save the day.

His death was far too ambiguous, especially for a main character, that I think there's something oddly suspicious about the entire scene.

AceStarr
11/21/2012, 07:04 pm
1)Hmmm I would think Kenny dead

2) Only way he could have survived is the zombies focused more on Ben then him kinda like how Ricks horse took the main attention from him when they get it on the ground (But keep in mind the Horse is bigger)

Christoaster
11/21/2012, 07:07 pm
Why couldn't they just show him be killed? It's obvious he died... Now we have people actually thinking he miracously escaped from an IMPOSSIBLE situation.

AceStarr
11/21/2012, 07:12 pm
Why couldn't they just show him be killed? It's obvious he died... Now we have people actually thinking he miracously escaped from an IMPOSSIBLE situation.

The what if is so more interesting LOL

rinnari
11/21/2012, 07:15 pm
By the way, when Kenny pushes Lee in that corner or whatever and seems to lock him in...how does he manage to come outside later and go up the ladder?...I think there was a door behind him so that was probably his only way out but maybe that door was locked or it was full of walkers inside...so I really wonder how he got out and up the ladder so quickly when he couldn't get out of there to help Kenny.

KennyTWD
11/21/2012, 08:56 pm
As much as I want Kenny to live, there's no way he made it out of that room alive. He ran out of ammo saving Christa/mercy killing Ben, and was backed into a corner in the dark room or completely surrounded in the alleyway. He's as dead as Carley, Ben, Larry, or even Lee.


Hello. I was covered In so much blood, dem walkers didn't even notice me. The choking sounds were the walkers. Derp. Ken for S2!

DreadMagus
11/21/2012, 09:01 pm
If you don't see someone die, or see a body... it's possible.

I don't favor his chances, but I'll grant you it's more possible than say... ahem.. Carley.

AceStarr
11/21/2012, 09:09 pm
If you don't see someone die, or see a body... it's possible.

I don't favor his chances, but I'll grant you it's more possible than say... ahem.. Carley.

ha ha ha Carley is alive dammit...she just has a headach LOL:D

DreadMagus
11/21/2012, 09:12 pm
lol :)

Keupajer
11/21/2012, 10:30 pm
ha ha ha Carley is alive dammit...she just has a headach LOL:D

Proberly the worst hangovers in history;)

Leegacy
11/21/2012, 10:43 pm
He was swarmed by walkers with no where to go after giving Christa a boost out of that death trap. Forget about him. He's gone.

tyrese was swarmed when he was cleaning out the gym

Brody100
11/21/2012, 10:46 pm
Well, after watching the scene in the alleyway with Ben a few times, I actually noticed that after Kenny shoots Ben he starts to run, which leads me to think he's still alive. Also, on sources I've read it's saying he's possibly dead- which means he has a chance, and he was an important character, so I doubt his death will be off screen. I think he'll be in Season 2.

SaveCarley
11/21/2012, 11:32 pm
Of course he may be dead - but he's not "dead for sure". That scene was ambiguous for a reason.

Damorte
11/22/2012, 12:08 am
Next season, Molly Kenny and Clementine. Remember you heard it here first!

Minhnie.Mouse
11/22/2012, 12:10 am
There's no way he lived. He's obviously dead as he's swarmed by hundreds of walkers. Also, Omid and Chrissa are on the lookout at the top. If they knew Kenny got away, they would've mentioned it.

kierano87
11/22/2012, 12:21 am
Mabye he used the shot to attract those zombies to a certain area for his escape?

Minhnie.Mouse
11/22/2012, 12:27 am
Mabye he used the shot to attract those zombies to a certain area for his escape?

+1 LOL!!! You are a funny cunt. ^^

Nathanial
11/22/2012, 12:32 am
It's obvious Telltale left everything ambiguous in case they decide to bring him back in. You don't "clearly hear him die". I have audiophile headphones and good hardware and I listened carefully. His death is point blank ambiguous, it's as simple as that. It just depends on what Telltale decides for the future. He could be gone, he could be alive.

It reminds me of the comics:

With Tyreese. In the gym. He was COMPLETELY surrounded. But as Rick said, he wouldn't believe Tyreese was dead unless he saw the body. Turned out, Tyreese miraculously survived. This is based off the "realistic" comic SOURCE material, so I don't think it's "going out there" to say he could possibly be alive.

Also if you listen carefully, when Ben is shouting to Kenny, his sentence is cut off with the sound of the bullet. It's pretty damn obvious that he used that bullet on Ben to save him pain. Even if you dropped Ben in episode 4, Kenny's speech about suicide just moments before the roof top scene with Christa, leads me to believe that bullet wasn't into his own brain, either.

mz3
11/22/2012, 01:27 am
I don't know why we don't have any option to save kenny in there. lee could drop down and help christa and kenny.lee was bitten so he will die anyway. he could save kenny.
I can't accept kenny's death.

rachellouise85
11/22/2012, 01:53 am
I don't know why Kenny wanted to stay behind anyway.Ben may have been conscious, unlike Larry, but pull him off the metal impaling him, he's dead. We can't do major surgery or anything. I would say there was more of a chance of Larry surviving than Ben. Shooting Ben, so he wouldn't get eaten would be enough. I kept trying to interact with the door over and over xd

shedim
11/22/2012, 02:45 am
If TTG let Kenny survive, but killed Lee even if you chopped off the arm, I will personally burn down their office.

Sodawasser
11/22/2012, 04:52 am
If zombified or alive, I think we will see Kenny in the next episode if it is about Clem.
Anyway, like I have already said, here it isn't sure that he is really dead. Yes in a "realistic" ZA he would be surely dead but in every action film he would have survived in a miraculous way and the Walking Dead universe is a action drama horror ZA ;)

gameaddictwn
11/22/2012, 05:08 am
Oh my god they killed Kenny, you bastards. Sorry, I just wanted to say that for the entire season. But yea, Kenny is dead.

Luigi01080
11/22/2012, 05:21 am
Here we go again, kenny joins carley as the 2 people that we believe is still alive even though they couldnt have survived.

RedStage
11/22/2012, 05:36 am
All I have to say about this is : He is dead. Telltale has done a really really really really good job about being realistic. While virtually everyone has claimed molly, lilly, carly, and now kenny is coming back - they arent. Kenny was in a non win situation anyway possible. If hes alive telltale loses the one thing that i think seperates them from other games which is being realistic (ofcourse in a zombie apocalypse) while also giving a great story. So kenny is dead.

Lilly is supposed to be in the book "rise of the governor"

Gman5852
11/22/2012, 05:41 am
tyrese was swarmed when he was cleaning out the gym

Didn't Tyrese have a melee weapon of some kind? Kenny certainly didn't.

Josec
11/22/2012, 05:52 am
It doesn't matter if he's still alive. He was bitten! And a bigger bite than the one who got us (Lee) sick. I also believe that he was eaten by the walkers, like many here, but it's pointless if he's still alive or not. He's dead anyway.

SaveCarley
11/22/2012, 06:18 am
Here we go again, kenny joins carley as the 2 people that we believe is still alive even though they couldnt have survived.

wtf? carley was shot in the head, kenny disappeared and it means they just didn't want to tell us if he's dead or not. Same for lily and molly.

Marumochi
11/22/2012, 06:34 am
How woud he get away? The walkers were coming from both sides, one of them grabs Kenny. I'm pretty sure he got completely overwhelmed.
This.

Nobody could have survived that. :|

Eclipsev
11/22/2012, 06:46 am
I swear to everything, I saw a sewage hole infront of the gate. Also theres a window to the right of ben.

we didn't hear him scream, we didn't see him die. The rule is that if you never saw it die, there's a good chance it lived.

Edit: Plus if it's unrealistic for ken to survive a herd of walkers, then it's unrealistic for lee to walk through a herd of walkers.

multicolt
11/22/2012, 07:37 am
I swear to everything, I saw a sewage hole infront of the gate. Also theres a window to the right of ben.

we didn't hear him scream, we didn't see him die. The rule is that if you never saw it die, there's a good chance it lived.

Edit: Plus if it's unrealistic for ken to survive a herd of walkers, then it's unrealistic for lee to walk through a herd of walkers.

you sir make a valid point. however all ken had was a hand gun wile good as a blunt weapon useless when you have to hit there head and not get bit. however he could have went down a sewage hole just like we did in ep 4 so who knows. its all to TTG and if they want to use him again.

Rickbarry
11/22/2012, 07:46 am
Didn't Tyrese take out a few dozen zombies in a small locked down area of the prison with a crowbar/bat of some kind?

Didn't a guy that was locked in an incredibly small space with a few dozen walkers manage to escape from a prison yard and get back into said prison to wreak havoc on an episode of The Walking Dead?

Didn't Lee walk through a sea of walkers slashing without getting killed or even bitten?

Didn't a guy track their group even after they got on a train and kidnap Clementine?

Is it totally impossible that Kenny could have been knocked through a window or door and survived? We make it a point to see every death in this series and the only one we didn't (of a main story character) was Kenny. It's not that far fetched to assume he could have gotten away. In Episode four we all thought Chuck was alive, but guess what we saw a little bit later? His corpse.

People that state Kenny living would ruin the realism of the series to date seem semi-retarded. All of the characters listed above should have died, but we didn't see their deaths and all popped back in the storyline at a later point. It's not impossible.

Rock114
11/22/2012, 08:00 am
He seemed pretty suicidal to me, so he very well could have chosen to not escape even if he did have a way out. Sure he talked about not giving up, and to keep going on a minute or so earlier, but he lost too much. So after mercy killing Ben/lifting up Christa, I think that he just decided to keep fighting until the walkers overwhelmed him and finally make Kat proud by thinking of other people and giving his life for them.

Hentres
11/22/2012, 12:37 pm
Kenny is like Carley. Can die in two ways depending on gameplay and with just ilusions of possibilities that they survived. In TWD wiki's list of characters kenny is not even marked as "unknown" but as "dead".

DreadMagus
11/22/2012, 06:45 pm
Didn't Tyrese have a melee weapon of some kind? Kenny certainly didn't.

Unless you count that double thick skull Kenny is sporting....

Pickles312
11/23/2012, 07:06 am
I don't like the Kenny death. I feel if you killed Ben that should prevent Kenny's death, giving it some meaning. The chances aren't good, butI still have speculations.

1) He wasn't visibly shot in the head like Carley or Katjaa. You don't even see him die.

2) No screams whatsoever. Even if it was a "giving himself up" moment, there is still pain, and he used the last bullet to kill Ben if you saved him in Episode 4, so he couldn't have shot himself.

3) Escapes. If there is one thing that I know about the walking Dead, it's that if you don't see a body, they're not 100% dead. On the show, Andrew was in a similar situation and he screamed then: Kenny didn't even do that. It's definetly possible at least. He started runing down the alley. He could have gone down a manhole or shattered a window. When you look down from the roof you see the swarm over Ben and a few over something else, but not eating. They could have been reaching down a manhole into the sewers.

4) In the end character conclusions it says, "Lost in a herd a walkers." Why not just say dead? Why would Telltale leave that open if he was completely he was not just merely dead, but most sincerely dead?

5) Why just leave Christa and Omid? A couple. Leave all the torn apart people to die and leave the last couple that you barely know alive. To have a defining link that is with the protaganist the whole story just die quick with no real emotional tole doesn't seem realistic as much as him escaping the herd isn't realistic. If this was actually realistic, thy wouldn't leave a pregnant woman and a wounded guy alive and and the capable people dead.

6) This is different that Lee dying. People expected Lee to die, so the everyone dies attitude would presume Kenny dead as well. If he was alive, people wouldn't expect that. As much as people wanted to save Lee, once he was bit you knew it was over. Kenny is kind of a mystery.

7) Tyreese was in the same situation. Yes he had a hammer , but a hammer isn't much either to not only kill someone but destroy every single brain completly. That showed me nothing is impossible. Knny could smash a few heads in I'm sure. He appereciated Lee's company for that and was able to killthe walkers at the gas stations grabbing Duck as he says at Hershel's farm.

8) He ran off. After shooting Ben he clearly runs off screen pretty fast and we see or hear nothing more of him. The scene in the building is harder to tell but it is unlikely he killed himself after that speech and we still hear nothing. So he could have escaped and he wasn't even trapped. The alley wasn't one way. He could have forced out the other side.

So yes, the odds aren't good for him. He's more likey dead than alive, but don't close the door on Kenny yet. Something tells me Telltale wouldn't have cause this suspicion and left the door open if they weren't planning something.

Viner16
11/23/2012, 08:08 am
Pipe Dream that some of us would like to see.

I for one, hated Kenny's guts so :D

dukeleto
11/23/2012, 08:10 am
I'm afraid but,
no way...

Fluffyburrito
11/23/2012, 08:11 am
You actually hear him dying if you stick around at the gate...

so yeah, he's dead.

SaveCarley
11/23/2012, 08:51 am
http://i49.tinypic.com/2ugcgoh.png

Pickles312
11/23/2012, 09:32 am
You actually hear him dying if you stick around at the gate...

so yeah, he's dead.

The only noticable human sound to know would be screaming, and I heard none of that, only gurgles, which could be him or walkers, no way to tell.

Dead Watcher
11/23/2012, 09:55 am
All I have to say about this is : He is dead. Telltale has done a really really really really good job about being realistic. While virtually everyone has claimed molly, lilly, carly, and now kenny is coming back - they arent. Kenny was in a non win situation anyway possible. If hes alive telltale loses the one thing that i think seperates them from other games which is being realistic (ofcourse in a zombie apocalypse) while also giving a great story. So kenny is dead.

If Telltale was going be realistic, there might be a chance that Kenny is alive. Look at war stories, some people who were thought to be dead turned out to be alive. That happens sometimes in real life. So if Telltale was going for realism, they would have left the door open for Kenny being alive and he might very well be; we just have to wait and see.

Rock114
11/23/2012, 09:58 am
I really don't think Kenny had any intention of surviving either scenario. In the alley he even says that, if you tell him Kat wouldn't want this, either "I save the kid, or I get to see Kat again." Plus he tells the group to go on without him if he saves Christa, and even screams "Get the fuck off me!" which seems to imply that he had been bitten. Either way, he intended to do something right and probably die doing it.

Angiebullet
11/23/2012, 10:01 am
in the end, in the resume of the characters they say that kenny is dead. I wouldnt want him to die, but hell...i did not want Lee to die either!!! (*cries*)

Rock114
11/23/2012, 10:05 am
It's never stated that Kenny is actually "dead". The ending says that he was "lost" to the herd. For everyone else it actually said that they were dead, had been killed, commited suicide, etc. But, when so many other words would have gotten the point across that Kenny was actually dead, they chose to say "lost" instead. TT probably just wants to keep his fate ambiguous, but with a strong implication that he didn't make it. So it's possible he lived, just not likely.

Angiebullet
11/23/2012, 10:06 am
It's never stated that Kenny is actually "dead". The ending says that he was "lost" to the herd. For everyone else it actually said that they were dead, had been killed, commited suicide, etc. But, when so many other words would have gotten the point across that Kenny was actually dead, they chose to say "lost" instead. TT probably just wants to keep his fate ambiguous, but with a strong implication that he didn't make it. So it's possible he lived, just not likely.

omg you´re right!! genious!

Perfume
11/23/2012, 10:19 am
1) Didn't Tyrese take out a few dozen zombies in a small locked down area of the prison with a crowbar/bat of some kind?

2) Didn't a guy that was locked in an incredibly small space with a few dozen walkers manage to escape from a prison yard and get back into said prison to wreak havoc on an episode of The Walking Dead?

3) Didn't Lee walk through a sea of walkers slashing without getting killed or even bitten?

4) Didn't a guy track their group even after they got on a train and kidnap Clementine?

Is it totally impossible that Kenny could have been knocked through a window or door and survived? We make it a point to see every death in this series and the only one we didn't (of a main story character) was Kenny. It's not that far fetched to assume he could have gotten away. In Episode four we all thought Chuck was alive, but guess what we saw a little bit later? His corpse.

People that state Kenny living would ruin the realism of the series to date seem semi-retarded. All of the characters listed above should have died, but we didn't see their deaths and all popped back in the storyline at a later point. It's not impossible.

1) Tyrese was built like a machine and knew how to do melee.

2) He ran past at least 5 zombies within a time period of 2 seconds. They were clearly weak. Plus, there was a fence he could climb to escape.

3) He had zombie guts & blood on him that masked his scent. It confused and detracted most of them.

4) The walkie-talkie.

Kenny was just some 40-something year-old man that didn't really have anything to live for anymore.

Pride
11/23/2012, 10:22 am
Oh please. Are you guys seriously believing Kenny would be able to fight off an entire zombie horde coming at him from both sides[ben situation] or in the dark[christa situation] ?
He got his ass kicked by a bunch of elderly cancer patients ffs! Hahaha

Pickles312
11/23/2012, 10:26 am
1) Tyrese was built like a machine and knew how to do melee.

2) He ran past at least 5 zombies within a time period of 2 seconds. They were clearly weak. Plus, there was a fence he could climb to escape.

3) He had zombie guts & blood on him that masked his scent. It confused and detracted most of them.

4) The walkie-talkie.

Kenny was just some 40-something year-old man that didn't really have anything to live for anymore.

He didn't have zombie guts on him while doing it, he had guts on him because of doing it.

Perfume
11/23/2012, 10:35 am
He didn't have zombie guts on him while doing it, he had guts on him because of doing it.

Oh, my bad.

Yeah, that is a little odd, but then again, the game version of zombies have always been slower.

Rock114
11/23/2012, 10:39 am
I think he's dead. After losing Kat and Duck, it was only a matter of time before he gave up. Vernon stealing the boat just made him give up all the faster. I won't say it's completely impossible for him to have somehow survived, but I'm not holding my hopes up.

wrex08
11/23/2012, 10:51 am
There was nowhere to go, so I guess he got eaten. Still, that decision of his was completely retarded. As if he didn't know Ben was gonna be eaten anyway. He could have just shot him (which he later did anyway) and just ran away.

DarcKage
11/23/2012, 10:53 am
Watching that scene again in the alleyway, there were quite a few windows there. He might have jumped through one of them.

As for the other scene, he might have found a door or something there? I dont know, I think he might still be alive, maybe. You cant really count someone out until you see him die.

Perfume
11/23/2012, 12:50 pm
Watching that scene again in the alleyway, there were quite a few windows there. He might have jumped through one of them.

They are all boarded.

And no, bashing one open is not an option given the time constraints.

Nekrocop
11/24/2012, 07:41 am
In the Ben version he gets bitten. You can see for yourself.
Damn it Telltale.

Crixus
11/24/2012, 07:44 am
In the Ben version he gets bitten. You can see for yourself.
Damn it Telltale.

Not true it doesnt connect with his arm,he hits it away,then he shoots ben offscreen and then you hear or see nothing, no screaming or anything. I think Kenny survived, why else make his death so ambigious,im calling it now, he is gonna make an appearance in one of the episodes next season and possibly join that group.

marcu5
11/24/2012, 07:48 am
it does appear like he was bitten on the ben version. however, kenny has a long sleeve hurt. doesn't look like he was bit on open skin. you also hear screams on the ben version. maybe kenny didn't shoot ben. either way, im going to assume that since we didn't see him die on camera, he's still alive

Pickles312
11/24/2012, 07:55 am
If you pause no skin or sleeve was broken. Then he shoots Ben and sprints off screen.

Crixus
11/24/2012, 08:01 am
If you pause no skin or sleeve was broken. Then he shoots Ben and sprints off screen.

^ This

izzywozzy
11/24/2012, 08:33 am
On the Christa version, you're only about 75% sure that he died. He goes in the hole, and to be honest, he definitely could have gotten away.

Rock114
11/24/2012, 08:35 am
Hell, we never even see the walkers touch him in the Christa version. After he runs back into the room, the closest we get is him yelling "Get the fuck off me!" which doesn't necessarily mean he was bitten. While it's possible that he could have escaped, and I really want him to, I just don't think he made it out of either scenario.

marcu5
11/24/2012, 08:41 am
On the Christa version, you're only about 75% sure that he died. He goes in the hole, and to be honest, he definitely could have gotten away.

either way, he escape scene was meant to be ambiguous. he's a pretty good character, so i assume they wouldn't leave him hanging.

Crixus
11/24/2012, 09:25 am
I'd love if kenny was found months later in season 2 in like episode 2/3 and he had become a complete badass because he has had to survive by himself for months. Male version of Michonne perhaps? :D

iosepusmagus
11/24/2012, 09:30 am
Perhaps Kenny ripped one of the walker's guts and it bathed him in its blood.

TrueXus
11/24/2012, 09:31 am
Not true it doesnt connect with his arm,he hits it away,then he shoots ben offscreen and then you hear or see nothing, no screaming or anything. I think Kenny survived, why else make his death so ambigious,im calling it now, he is gonna make an appearance in one of the episodes next season and possibly join that group.

I think he survived also.

pwnah
11/24/2012, 06:49 pm
You never hear kenny scream or any noise at all when the zombies surround him.

- You never see a body and the zombies aren't eating anything when you look down from the roof.

- When you finish the game EVERYONE else's thing says "killed" or "died" , kenny's just says "Lost" , there must be a reason his is the only one that doesn't say killed.

- When you climb back on the roof, Lee can say "Maybe he did get away IDK"

- Kenny made that speech about not ending things because it's hard and helping the people you care about. Why would he let himself get eaten after just saying those things?

Plan_R
11/24/2012, 06:51 pm
No body = no death

zeke10
11/24/2012, 06:53 pm
He dead

Pickles312
11/24/2012, 06:57 pm
I have now posted in wuite a few threads like this so here's my original analysis.

I don't like the Kenny death. I feel if you killed Ben that should prevent Kenny's death, giving it some meaning. The chances aren't good, butI still have speculations.

1) He wasn't visibly shot in the head like Carley or Katjaa. You don't even see him die.

2) No screams whatsoever. Even if it was a "giving himself up" moment, there is still pain, and he used the last bullet to kill Ben if you saved him in Episode 4, so he couldn't have shot himself.

3) Escapes. If there is one thing that I know about the walking Dead, it's that if you don't see a body, they're not 100% dead. On the show, Andrew was in a similar situation and he screamed then: Kenny didn't even do that. It's definetly possible at least. He started runing down the alley. He could have gone down a manhole or shattered a window. When you look down from the roof you see the swarm over Ben and a few over something else, but not eating. They could have been reaching down a manhole into the sewers.

4) In the end character conclusions it says, "Lost in a herd a walkers." Why not just say dead? Why would Telltale leave that open if he was completely he was not just merely dead, but most sincerely dead?

5) Why just leave Christa and Omid? A couple. Leave all the torn apart people to die and leave the last couple that you barely know alive. To have a defining link that is with the protaganist the whole story just die quick with no real emotional tole doesn't seem realistic as much as him escaping the herd isn't realistic. If this was actually realistic, thy wouldn't leave a pregnant woman and a wounded guy alive and and the capable people dead.

6) This is different that Lee dying. People expected Lee to die, so the everyone dies attitude would presume Kenny dead as well. If he was alive, people wouldn't expect that. As much as people wanted to save Lee, once he was bit you knew it was over. Kenny is kind of a mystery.

7) Tyreese was in the same situation. Yes he had a hammer , but a hammer isn't much either to not only kill someone but destroy every single brain completly. That showed me nothing is impossible. Knny could smash a few heads in I'm sure. He appereciated Lee's company for that and was able to killthe walkers at the gas stations grabbing Duck as he says at Hershel's farm.

8) He ran off. After shooting Ben he clearly runs off screen pretty fast and we see or hear nothing more of him. The scene in the building is harder to tell but it is unlikely he killed himself after that speech and we still hear nothing. So he could have escaped and he wasn't even trapped. The alley wasn't one way. He could have forced out the other side.

So yes, the odds aren't good for him. He's more likey dead than alive, but don't close the door on Kenny yet. Something tells me Telltale wouldn't have cause this suspicion and left the door open if they weren't planning something.

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zeke10
11/24/2012, 06:59 pm
If he were to return in season 2 it would be VERY cheesy like a soap opera

Plan_R
11/24/2012, 07:02 pm
If he were to return in season 2 it would be VERY cheesy like a soap opera

Perhaps his evil twin brother then?

zeke10
11/24/2012, 07:05 pm
Perhaps his evil twin brother then?

lol

pwnah
11/24/2012, 07:05 pm
I think kenny wanted to spilt up from the group cause he's on a mission to get his boat back

AsariTears
11/24/2012, 08:10 pm
He dead.

In the words of a great man... "nobody was gettin outta that."

pwnah
11/24/2012, 08:15 pm
He dead.

In the words of a great man... "nobody was gettin outta that."


Also in the words of a great man. "Maybe he did get away, IDK"

RainbowSprinklz
11/25/2012, 02:42 pm
I was re-watching Kenny's "death" scene and I noticed something. Around the 4:04 mark, it looks like a walker bites him. I even heard a very small chomp noise. Does anyone else see this too? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSob56dmBR8

KingOfTheDead
11/25/2012, 02:44 pm
he dead brah get over it

hawkfire20
11/25/2012, 02:46 pm
No, there wasn't any sleeves torn or nothing.

RickRymes97
11/25/2012, 02:49 pm
Why can't people just get over these characters death's ? It's The Walking Dead, anyone can die (except Rick lol). It is not Disney were everyone lives happily every after.

ColtPeacemaker00
11/25/2012, 02:50 pm
yeah a few hundred times by the looks of it

RainbowSprinklz
11/25/2012, 02:53 pm
Why can't people just get over these characters death's ? It's The Walking Dead, anyone can die (except Rick lol). It is not Disney were everyone lives happily every after.

I totally agree with you. I was just wondering if he was bitten in the process. Don't need to be rude about it.

Nonymous99
11/25/2012, 02:59 pm
I was re-watching Kenny's "death" scene and I noticed something. Around the 4:04 mark, it looks like a walker bites him. I even heard a very small chomp noise. Does anyone else see this too? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSob56dmBR8

Yeah he was bitten and sadly now dead. ;(

Pickles312
11/25/2012, 03:43 pm
If something doesn't even rip a sleeve, how is it a zombie bite? I think he's dead but that was not a bite.

zeke10
11/25/2012, 10:21 pm
Yeah he defintly got bit

rachellouise85
11/25/2012, 10:30 pm
Don't know, could be the sound of walker teeth hitting each other. I could hear sounds of struggling after that. He is more than likely gone though, after him trying to make things better/right with my Lee and ben.

They didn't keep interacting with the gate, Lee keeps calling Kenny.

Why does Christa ask what happened, she's looking down in to the alley, she probably saw more than me. Probably why she gave me a look of pity when I chose to say he could have got away.

zeke10
11/25/2012, 10:35 pm
Well you can see what looks like it biting his arm when you the sound

demonteddybear
11/25/2012, 10:38 pm
Yeah he got bitten and I was happy about it, I hope he suffered. Hated the bastard. My first play through the only reason I was nice to him was because of Duck. Every time I wanted to tell him off I would think of his kid and say "He's just a boy". Hate Ben more though, I swear if I could have I so would of gone, "hey ben want to help me on this trip to town." Then shot him in the leg and let the zombies eat him. Then I would still have had my dear hardcore Lilly with me.

zeke10
11/25/2012, 10:40 pm
Yeah he got bitten and I was happy about it, I hope he suffered. Hated the bastard. My first play through the only reason I was nice to him was because of Duck. Every time I wanted to tell him off I would think of his kid and say "He's just a boy". Hate Ben more though, I swear if I could have I so would of gone, "hey ben want to help me on this trip to town." Then shot him in the leg and let the zombies eat him. Then I would still have had my dear hardcore Lilly with me.

Oooo k

Devlonir
11/25/2012, 11:28 pm
Yeah he got bitten and I was happy about it, I hope he suffered. Hated the bastard. My first play through the only reason I was nice to him was because of Duck. Every time I wanted to tell him off I would think of his kid and say "He's just a boy". Hate Ben more though, I swear if I could have I so would of gone, "hey ben want to help me on this trip to town." Then shot him in the leg and let the zombies eat him. Then I would still have had my dear hardcore Lilly with me.

Hi Shane!

Shatilov
11/26/2012, 01:29 am
All of them are dead, no one survived, except for Lilly/Molly/Omid/Christa. these are the only survivors, + the cancer group.

lol the irony, the cancer group takes the boat form kenny. hehehe

Tracerhaha
11/26/2012, 07:04 am
I'll believe he's dead when I see the body.

Merc
11/26/2012, 07:30 am
Kenny for season 2 protagonist.

Mornai
11/26/2012, 07:35 am
Telltale no doubt did this on purpose so they always have the option of using him again in season 2 if they need to.

We'll never know until season 2, and even then we might not.

magzhi
11/26/2012, 07:44 am
If you stay after ben's fall, you can see and hear him get bitten one time before he goes behind the wall.

Zarron
11/26/2012, 08:00 am
Perhaps his evil twin brother then?

Wait -- but Kenny already has facial hair.

Willzy123
11/26/2012, 11:50 am
Look at his wiki: http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Kenny_(Video_Game)

I always thought it should have said unknown.

Gratefully Dead
11/26/2012, 11:52 am
Because nobody other then Telltale officials can change a Wiki....

Not to mention, it still says death episode.

Zarron
11/26/2012, 11:52 am
It still says this: "After his death, Lee was upset, but remained focus."

I wouldn't trust the wiki for information like this though. And a blue isn't something I'd consider for Kenny's situation (blue, if I recall, means "last we saw them, they were safe," which is not Kenny. At all.)

Pickles312
11/26/2012, 11:56 am
there should be a "Assumed Dead" setting.

Willzy123
11/26/2012, 11:56 am
It still says this: "After his death, Lee was upset, but remained focus."

I wouldn't trust the wiki for information like this though. And a blue isn't something I'd consider for Kenny's situation (blue, if I recall, means "last we saw them, they were safe," which is not Kenny. At all.)

I think it means unknown, only if you DON'T have Ben.

(Blue means currently unknown by the way.)

Pickles312
11/26/2012, 11:59 am
I think it means unknown, only if you DON'T have Ben.

(Blue means currently unknown by the way.)

Only if you don't have Ben or don't sgree to leave him.

Zarron
11/26/2012, 12:00 pm
Oddly enough, on the character page, Kenny's still red: http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Video_Game_Characters

Willzy123
11/26/2012, 12:02 pm
Oddly enough, on the character page, Kenny's still red: http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Video_Game_Characters

Yeah, that gets updated a lot later...

Willzy123
11/26/2012, 12:04 pm
It still says this: "After his death, Lee was upset, but remained focus."

I wouldn't trust the wiki for information like this though. And a blue isn't something I'd consider for Kenny's situation (blue, if I recall, means "last we saw them, they were safe," which is not Kenny. At all.)

I can trust wiki. I edited the Brie page, and I said she got killed by Darth Vader. And then 5minutes later I got IP banned from editing until next February.

So it's safe to say it's trusted.

Moggyoxys
11/26/2012, 12:32 pm
I can trust wiki. I edited the Brie page, and I said she got killed by Darth Vader. And then 5minutes later I got IP banned from editing until next February.

So it's safe to say it's trusted.

I kinda want to see art of that now:p

glennfetherston
11/26/2012, 12:50 pm
im not certain but if you listen closely after clem shoots lee you can hear a breath right after it cuts to black maybe im crazy but i have been watching a lot of peoples reactions to the ending and i have heard the breath in every video.

AnTea
11/26/2012, 12:53 pm
im not certain but if you listen closely after clem shoots lee you can hear a breath right after it cuts to black maybe im crazy but i have been watching a lot of peoples reactions to the ending and i have heard the breath in every video.

He's dead, that's official.

Source: 2 posts above this one

RainbowSprinklz
11/26/2012, 01:46 pm
All of them are dead, no one survived, except for Lilly/Molly/Omid/Christa. these are the only survivors, + the cancer group.

lol the irony, the cancer group takes the boat form kenny. hehehe

What about Clementine?

Willzy123
11/26/2012, 01:52 pm
I kinda want to see art of that now:p

:guybrush:

ThatoneJeff
11/26/2012, 02:55 pm
I'm just gonna put my fingers in my ears and scream "La la la, Kenny confirmed for Season 2, La la la"

george1120
11/26/2012, 03:16 pm
telltale is so brilliant. making us think kenny is alive and the shadows in the end are omid and christa...

george1120
11/26/2012, 03:17 pm
Don't know, could be the sound of walker teeth hitting each other. I could hear sounds of struggling after that. He is more than likely gone though, after him trying to make things better/right with my Lee and ben.

They didn't keep interacting with the gate, Lee keeps calling Kenny.

Why does Christa ask what happened, she's looking down in to the alley, she probably saw more than me. Probably why she gave me a look of pity when I chose to say he could have got away.

she probably focused on the roof to see if anyone was nearby. She looked more puzzled than shocked honestly.

Zarron
11/26/2012, 03:20 pm
If the shadows are Kenny and Ben, that will be evil. Evil, yet awesome.

DoubleMatt1
11/26/2012, 05:23 pm
No, there wasn't any sleeves torn or nothing.Telltale was to lazy to animated it

TheRickGrimes
11/26/2012, 05:32 pm
I'm just gonna put my fingers in my ears and scream "La la la, Kenny confirmed for Season 2, La la la"

If only. D:

TheRickGrimes
11/26/2012, 05:33 pm
Telltale was to lazy to animated it

That's like saying Telltale was too lazy to animate the gun shot flash, which they did animate.

RickRymes97
11/26/2012, 06:05 pm
Get over it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

demonteddybear
11/26/2012, 08:14 pm
Hi Shane!

I hate to say it but I so would be like Shane in the ZA. You dont have to be the fastest person to get away, just faster then the other person. If you are the slowest then shoot someone in the leg. In the game I was so sweet talking Lilly whenever I could, she was harcore and wanted to make my moves on her after he dad died. It would of gone great too, but then knowing my luck her long lost husband would show up the in the next episode....yep I am Shane.

ThatoneJeff
11/26/2012, 08:37 pm
If only. D:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38064320/L/kenny.jpg

We have to #beLEEve in Kenny.

EDIT: In retrospect, this was a terrible 100th post.

AnnaSan
11/26/2012, 08:55 pm
Yeah, the wiki can't be trusted. I found this earlier on Kenny's page:

If Lee agrees to leave Kenny, he will give Kenny bullets. As he is leaving, Lee hears Kenny fire off two shots, one at Ben and one at himself, saving them both the pain. This can only happen if Ben is saved in Episode 4.

There was obviously one bullet left from the gun that Kenny took from the couple, since the group ran out of bullets from shooting walkers in the mansion =.=

TheShooter
11/26/2012, 09:28 pm
But I've heard the walkers eating him in Ben's scene, Kenny is of course dead but Telltale likes deceiving us.

zeke10
11/27/2012, 10:17 am
I'd love to see kenny as a walker in season 2

tragictwist
11/27/2012, 10:21 am
I used to hate Kenny. But by the end of this series, I grew to love the stupid guy. And I will fight to the end that he deserves Unknown status on the Wiki page.

People have already said it, but just to clarify: it has happened before in TWD that people who were assumed dead (but whose death's were not seen) ended up surviving: Tyreese, Andrew (in the show).... Lee manages to fight his way through that entire herd. Rick has managed to survive without a fucking hand. TWD is realistic in that they kill people off that have been around for a while. TWD is also unrealistic in that they allow people who should have died a long time ago to stick around.

Also, if you get the Ben scenario: if you ask Christa and Omid to keep an eye out, Omid clearly states he can not see anything. Then when Lee returns, Christa asks what happened and if he actually saw them die. The end of the game uses the word "lost" and not dead. Kenny is probably dead, but the thing is WE DO NOT KNOW. We see Kenny run and hear some weird noises... how do we know the walkers didn't stop to eat Ben? How do we know those noises aren't them eating Ben?
Kenny may have seemed like he was giving up, but how many people when faced with death decide that maybe they aren't ready to give up? Especially when they just gave a speech saying how terrible suicide is?

http://i49.tinypic.com/2mwdvlj.jpg
I paused it here and tried to brighten the picture.... does it look like the walkers are swarmed around anything? It looks as if they are just passing through. I kept pausing and did not see any sewer, but there is always the possibility that Kenny ran for it... and just like Lee, maybe he got enough blood on him to get through.

The Christa version is even more likely for Kenny to have run out of there.

AnnaSan
11/27/2012, 08:53 pm
I used to hate Kenny. But by the end of this series, I grew to love the stupid guy. And I will fight to the end that he deserves Unknown status on the Wiki page.

Also, if you get the Ben scenario: if you ask Christa and Omid to keep an eye out, Omid clearly states he can not see anything. Then when Lee returns, Christa asks what happened and if he actually saw them die. The end of the game uses the word "lost" and not dead. Kenny is probably dead, but the thing is WE DO NOT KNOW. We see Kenny run and hear some weird noises... how do we know the walkers didn't stop to eat Ben? How do we know those noises aren't them eating Ben?
Kenny may have seemed like he was giving up, but how many people when faced with death decide that maybe they aren't ready to give up? Especially when they just gave a speech saying how terrible suicide is?



I know! I'm pretty sure Kenny wouldnt just give up his life right after he made an anti-suicide speech. Hopefully telltale will bring him back season 2.

It also says on the wiki that he's dead, it should be unknown.

SuperMeatBoy
12/09/2012, 10:05 am
http://i49.tinypic.com/2ugcgoh.png

The magics of Microsoft Paint.

yukiotoru
12/10/2012, 07:58 am
When Kenny kills Ben and then disappears you can hear walkers eating, but that doen't mean that they were eating Kenny, maybe they were eating Ben, I'm not sure but It could be... walkers continue eating people even if they are dead (a good example of this is Chuck) So... that's why I think the one that walkers ate was Ben and not Kenny.

Crazyb2000
12/10/2012, 08:53 am
Wait -- but Kenny already has facial hair.

His evil twin would have another mustache oover the other which is twirled at the sides. :cool:

Kaydren
12/10/2012, 11:16 am
HE USED THE SEWER SYSTEMS.
I hope :(

JakeSt123
12/10/2012, 11:29 am
Wait -- but Kenny already has facial hair.

The evil twin has no mustache, but a beard instead D:

Rock114
12/10/2012, 12:26 pm
Well, you hear walkers eating in the Ben/Kenny ending, but you don't really hear them eating anything (I think) in the Kenny/Christa scene. So they eat Ben in the alley, but they don't eat anything when Kenny jumps into the room... alone...

zev_zev
12/10/2012, 12:27 pm
He's dead, because this is "The Walking Dead". I remember before the fifth episode of I dreamed that Lee be able to survive. Now he is dead, there is no hope. Telltele could easily do so as Lee survived, but they have not done so. So why Kenny must survive? It's not even fair to Lee. I'm not hate Kenny, but miracles do not happen, especially in the world of TWD. Sorry if offended someone.

Rock114
12/10/2012, 12:36 pm
He's dead, because this is "The Walking Dead". I remember before the fifth episode of I dreamed that Lee be able to survive. Now he is dead, there is no hope. Telltele could easily do so as Lee survived, but they have not done so. So why Kenny must survive? It's not even fair to Lee. I'm not hate Kenny, but miracles do not happen, especially in the world of TWD. Sorry if offended someone.

Well that's just it, we don't actually KNOW if Kenny died. We saw the effects of the bite on Lee, how he didn't even have the strength to get up in the jewlery store. His skin was pale, his eyes yellow, and he could barely speak.

But Kenny was never actually SEEN being bitten. We never saw him get eaten. In the alleyway he escapes around the corner, out of Lee's sight before the walkers reach him. In the Christa scene, he runs off into the dark room, but the last time we actually see him he is still alive. If there's no body, then they're not really dead. While it's likely that Kenny died in both of those scenarios, since we never actually saw his death, or actual evidence of it, there is still a (small) chance of him having survived.

Zeruis
12/10/2012, 01:52 pm
He's dead. I'd be disappointed if he came back in season 2. We already know all traits of his character.

dinofire
12/10/2012, 11:29 pm
As much as I like Kenny, I'm sure that Christa/Omid would have SEEN him escape...
And they would have told you. So yeah, he's probably dead :(

I hope not D:

xXNinjaScoreXx
12/11/2012, 03:27 am
Yeah, the wiki can't be trusted. I found this earlier on Kenny's page:



There was obviously one bullet left from the gun that Kenny took from the couple, since the group ran out of bullets from shooting walkers in the mansion =.=

Actually Lee had a couple bullets to spare, which he gives to Kenny if you chose the right word options. In my game I heard 2 shots, the wiki may be true in saying Kenny also shot himself.

Mornai
12/11/2012, 06:29 am
He's dead, because this is "The Walking Dead". I remember before the fifth episode of I dreamed that Lee be able to survive. Now he is dead, there is no hope. Telltele could easily do so as Lee survived, but they have not done so. So why Kenny must survive? It's not even fair to Lee. I'm not hate Kenny, but miracles do not happen, especially in the world of TWD. Sorry if offended someone.

There's a situation in the comics where someone is trapped in a room with a truckload of walkers, presumed dead but is later found to have slain them all single-handed, which can probably be considered a miracle. So i wouldn't rule them out entirely.

Drox
12/11/2012, 06:56 am
would be cool to see kenny as second tyreese but its most likely telltale just killed off season 1 cast to start a brand new story
btw: walkers dont attack you if u smell like them, or got a mustache

Hudomonkey
12/11/2012, 08:08 am
Is this going to happen every time someone 'dies'?
Carley is Dead
Kenny is Dead
Lee is dead
Ben is dead
No one survives and there is no point holding onto false hope
All die in the end...
Except for Clem she will always survive until the end of time

zev_zev
12/11/2012, 12:05 pm
There's a situation in the comics where someone is trapped in a room with a truckload of walkers, presumed dead but is later found to have slain them all single-handed, which can probably be considered a miracle. So i wouldn't rule them out entirely.

I think that Kenny just wanted to die. He was tired of living and wants go to his family. I realized this after the scene, when Kenny saw the newlyweds who were shot dead on the bed.

That1Guy
12/11/2012, 12:25 pm
Is this going to happen every time someone 'dies'?
Carley is Dead
Kenny is Dead
Lee is dead
Ben is dead
No one survives and there is no point holding onto false hope
All die in the end...
Except for Clem she will always survive until the end of time

But with Kenny, there actually is possibility of his survival. We saw those other characters die but not him

Rock114
12/11/2012, 12:26 pm
Kenny didn't get bitten (that we saw) and he didn't get his head blown off. If anyone in the game were to get a "Could possibly still be alive" thread, it would be Kenny.

That1Guy
12/11/2012, 12:28 pm
Kenny didn't get bitten (that we saw) and he didn't get his head blown off. If anyone in the game were to get a "Could possibly still be alive" thread, it would be Kenny.

Molly too, but if you look closely on the Ben scene he does get bit.

notoriousmercy
12/11/2012, 12:34 pm
There's two different "Kenny disappears" scenes so that means the developers want us to think something.

I'd say presume he's dead... since both scenes were unlikely for him to escape. But if the developers want they can find an excuse like a hatch or something that made Kenny escape so that he's still alive. That's the whole point of these events.

/end of thread

King Cam72
12/15/2012, 03:31 am
In the sound files you can hear what sounds like him choking in pain, and from judging the circumstances, he's fucked.

Demopan
12/16/2012, 03:11 pm
Honestly. Telltale didn't show his death because they knew it would be gruesome, but people were too attached to ken to see that. He was devoured. There was no escape from his fate, none. He didn't duck out an alley, or into a back door. He was surrounded and devoured. Get over it, he's dead.

Rock114
12/16/2012, 03:14 pm
Many people actually hated Kenny, and would have loved to see that. There's a reason that TT never actually said that he "died" and never actually showed us his death.

booki94
12/16/2012, 03:16 pm
gruesome ? no i dont think that could be the reason

booki94
12/16/2012, 03:21 pm
we have seen so many people die in twd, TT would show him get teared apart if they think it would fit in the scene. i think there is a reason why they didnt clearly show his death. i could be wrong but who knows ?

CarScar
12/16/2012, 03:41 pm
we have seen so many people die in twd, TT would show him get teared apart if they think it would fit in the scene. i think there is a reason why they didnt clearly show his death. i could be wrong but who knows ?
That's the thing, it didn't fit the scene. It would really cheapen Kenny's heroic moment if he was killed right away and I don't think Telltale wanted to extend that scene anymore then they needed to.

I think Telltale's confirmation for Kenny's death were, for me at least:

During the Ben sacrifice you see Kenny get bit, or at least that's what it seems like what happened. You explicitly hear a crunching noise when the zombie lunges at Kenny's hand. I realize his sleeve wasn't ripped nor was there any blood on his hand, I just don't think Telltale would want to update his design for something so tiny.

Then with the Christa sacrifice there was what he said

"GET THE FUCK OFF ME!"
"Go! I'll... I'll be... rgh oh ahh!"


It's further enforced by the fact that it's The Walking Dead where the world is actually realistic and moments like these usually always result in people's deaths. Yeah yeah, there's Tyreese who did that similar shit. But the difference between Kenny and Tyreese is that it's Tyreese. There's like a 95% chance that he's dead, there's still that 5% for people to hope though, I guess.

Will85
12/16/2012, 05:27 pm
They do say at the end kenny was lost to the herd trying to save ben.

xXNinjaScoreXx
12/16/2012, 07:08 pm
Brie's death was gruesome, I'm pretty sure Telltale wouldn't allow anything more than that. And also, since we don't know if he is alive or dead, jumping to conclusions doesn't make sense :D

AnnaSan
12/16/2012, 07:17 pm
His status is unknown.

Mornai
12/17/2012, 07:12 am
They do say at the end kenny was lost to the herd trying to save ben.

Yes, but everyone else who dies have their fates explicitly stated. "Carley was killed by Lilly." "Larry died in the meat locker." Sure these are obvious but since it's intentionally vague there is simply not enough evidence to prove anything, on either side.

plaqueconspiracy
12/17/2012, 07:16 am
lol no.

No way they would leave a death by a big character out just because it could be "gruesome". He would've just been eaten by zombies. If they wanted us to know he was dead they would've added his screams. They want to make you uncertain.

QuarterPounderVlad
12/17/2012, 08:03 am
You can't know that. If you don't have proof you can stick this statement up your ass.

..Excuse my words.

Willzy123
12/17/2012, 08:51 am
Honestly. Telltale didn't show his death because they knew it would be gruesome, but people were too attached to ken to see that. He was devoured. There was no escape from his fate, none. He didn't duck out an alley, or into a back door. He was surrounded and devoured. Get over it, he's dead.

He could always be a walker...

Ctn04132
12/17/2012, 10:54 pm
Carley's cheek is not made of titanium. Get over it :p

Devlonir
12/17/2012, 11:41 pm
Kenny's death was left vague on purpose. That is all we can leave it at.

He is probably dead, and possibly not dead. In both situations, if there was another kind of distraction, he could have used the trick from the series and just lay very still under a corpse/dead walker and stay hidden that way. He could have fought a way out of both situations. He could also have just died in such a way that he did not even have a chance to scream when they started eating him.

The situation now basicly is: it can be anything.

zev_zev
12/18/2012, 02:57 am
He just tired live without wife and son, after he saw a dead couple on the bed, he wanted to die, he wanted come to his family. Such amazing character! Such epic death! Bravo Ken! Rest in peace.

lucidity02
12/18/2012, 04:59 am
Seeing as how Lee escaped from a dead-end alley with walkers closing in both sides of him in episode four, I'm not convinced Kenny's dead yet. Same situation. Maybe there was a handy manhole cover nearby.

Kaserkin
12/18/2012, 07:36 am
If you save bullets back at the mansion and you give them to him, you can hear more than one shot. So yeah, he's gone.

zev_zev
12/18/2012, 08:27 am
If you save bullets back at the mansion and you give them to him, you can hear more than one shot. So yeah, he's gone.

That's what I'm talking about. Suicide. He was tired to live. We will never see him again. So let's just let him go... as we was let go Lee.

Mornai
12/18/2012, 08:40 am
That's what I'm talking about. Suicide. He was tired to live. We will never see him again. So let's just let him go... as we was let go Lee.

Not 10 minutes before the incident he explicitly spoke out against suicide, though.

"It's what Katjaa did. She left me...my boy. I forgive her, but it don't make it any less wrong."
"You don't just end it cause it's hard. You stick it out, and you help the folks you care about."

At the very least i doubt he went down there with the sole intention of killing himself.

DreadMagus
12/18/2012, 09:52 am
Kenny is alive and I can prove it.

He's a failure.

He exudes fail from his pores.

Anything he tries to do ends in failure.

So it stands to reason that he can't even suicide right. :p

zev_zev
12/18/2012, 09:56 am
Not 10 minutes before the incident he explicitly spoke out against suicide, though.

"It's what Katjaa did. She left me...my boy. I forgive her, but it don't make it any less wrong."
"You don't just end it cause it's hard. You stick it out, and you help the folks you care about."

At the very least i doubt he went down there with the sole intention of killing himself.

Of course he didn't went down there with the intention of killing himself, he was tryed to save Ben or Christa. But when Kenny closed the gate, and said "Lee. Lee, it's okey it's just somethin' I gotta do. You know that... Go get that girl!" He decided to sacrifice himslef for Lee, for Clem, for Christa and Omid, for the no painful Ben's death. It was because Kenny has nothing else to lose. He was forgive Ben for everything, because he knew how it's hard to die and be unforgiven. He was saved Christa because he knew what mean love, he was knew what mean family. And he was gone. Gone as a hero, as a good friend. In the beggining of story, I didn't care about him, later Ken irritated me. But now I have really admire him.

aaron1290
12/18/2012, 10:32 am
Ken is alive! I saw him in a dream! He moved off of the screen and molly saved him! Yes yes yes

Luigi01080
12/18/2012, 11:49 am
Lee and kenny, brofisting in heaven(or hell depending on your choices XD)

Agent000
12/29/2012, 07:48 pm
In every scenario of Kenny risking his life, the ending stats say he was "lost to the herd" when every other character who died is clearly stated that they died.

They don't say "he lost to the herd" or "lost his life to the herd," it only states you lost sight of him.

I only want to bring this up because everyone seems to have written him off already, even the people who write the Walking Dead Wiki who state that he's definitely dead.

anonymau5
12/29/2012, 07:49 pm
In every scenario of Kenny risking his life, the ending stats say he was "lost to the herd" when every other character who died is clearly stated that they died.

They don't say "he lost to the herd" or "lost his life to the herd," it only states you lost sight of him.

I only want to bring this up because everyone seems to have written him off already, even the people who write the Walking Dead Wiki who state that he's definitely dead.

Look at the dozen other "Kenny is alive" threads. People haven't written him off as dead.

DreadMagus
12/29/2012, 08:01 pm
Who's this "everyone"?

Agent000
12/29/2012, 08:24 pm
I should say, the majority of people I've seen.

KingOfTheDead
12/29/2012, 08:29 pm
well tyrresse did it why not kenny

King Cam72
12/29/2012, 08:34 pm
"Lost to the Herd" probably means he's a walker now at best.

KennyTWD
12/29/2012, 10:55 pm
"Lost to the Herd" probably means he's a walker now at best.

nope

Willzy123
12/30/2012, 04:43 am
even the people who write the Walking Dead Wiki who state that he's definitely dead.

Since there is more than one wiki editor on there, Kenny's page often gets changed to 'blue' which means unknown. To be perfectly honest, if in both Kenny endings we don't see him 'properly die'. I think Telltale are hiding something..

Araron
12/30/2012, 04:55 am
Kenny is probably dead. :P

I mean... http://youtu.be/PQFXevqefTk?t=1m50s

Argadem
12/30/2012, 05:01 am
There is more chance that he escaped in "Christa" situation then "Ben" situation...i mean,how could he escape out of narrow passage with Walkers on every side. But we didn't see him die,so everything could be possible

Willzy123
12/30/2012, 05:04 am
There is more chance that he escaped in "Christa" situation then "Ben" situation...i mean,how could he escape out of narrow passage with Walkers on every side. But we didn't see him die,so everything could be possible

I see what you mean, but like you said, everything could be possible.

aaron1290
12/30/2012, 08:25 am
Kenny is dead. he was eaten alive. how did kenny survive if walkers were coming from both sides? and if you dont shoot any walkers in the final stand you get to give kenny some more bullets he will fire 1 bullet to ben and another one on himself. Himself (Suicide) (Determinant)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQFXevqefTk&list=UUmQYbkTqUWm17MuGrqcosnw

with the ben ending. '' GET THE FUCK OFF OF ME. '' + ''Go ill be... ill be'' basicly means hes being pinned down and eaten ;O

aaron1290
12/30/2012, 09:52 am
i miss kent... he died a hero.

DreadMagus
12/30/2012, 11:16 am
Unused means it didn't happen.

dubesor
12/30/2012, 11:26 am
why are all your videos audio only?

aaron1290
12/30/2012, 11:39 am
why are all your videos audio only?

They're not mine and its removed clips.

aaron1290
12/30/2012, 11:40 am
Unused means it didn't happen.

or telltale wants people to speculate?

DreadMagus
12/30/2012, 11:48 am
Unused means it didn't happen.

Period.

And since his death is at best a question mark - obviously they knew there'd be speculation. :p

dinofire
12/30/2012, 03:28 pm
Kenny is probably dead. :P

I mean... http://youtu.be/PQFXevqefTk?t=1m50s

But they removed it for a reason... THEY REMOVED IT FOR A REASON >:U

dinofire
12/30/2012, 03:30 pm
They left it out for a reason >:U
HE IS NOT DEAD I TELL YOU.

trd84
12/30/2012, 03:41 pm
Kenny's dead

trd84
12/30/2012, 03:45 pm
Kenny's dead you can see him get attacked. He had no weapon, nothing to hit them with. He's dead.

Cyreen
12/30/2012, 03:46 pm
The entire game is a matter of perspective. Why should Kenny's demise (or not) be any different.

DreadMagus
12/30/2012, 04:07 pm
They left it out for a reason >:U
HE IS NOT DEAD I TELL YOU.

Or he is and they didn't care enough to give him a proper send off.

I guess you could say...

:cool:

....they Chucked him.

YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thestalkinghead
12/30/2012, 04:09 pm
Unused means it didn't happen.

Period.

And since his death is at best a question mark - obviously they knew there'd be speculation. :p

yeah, else it would mean that ben had a split personality with a different accent

MSG
12/30/2012, 04:46 pm
There's also a cut where Mark lives if you leave David and David is eaten instead.

GUESS MARK'S STILL ALIVE GUYS

Bababooey
12/30/2012, 05:22 pm
You killed Kenny . You bastard

Rock114
12/30/2012, 06:44 pm
It's POSSIBLE that he's alive, but not likely. There's no reason to completely write him off OR assume he'll be back.

Demopan
12/30/2012, 07:17 pm
These lines aren't unused, you might have just seen a different death for kenny. It's a different scene depending on whether or not you save ben. I definitely saw him get bitten on the arm in the alley, there's even a little blood spurt.

LauriNicole
12/30/2012, 07:50 pm
I hope he's dead.

thestalkinghead
12/30/2012, 07:54 pm
These lines aren't unused, you might have just seen a different death for kenny. It's a different scene depending on whether or not you save ben. I definitely saw him get bitten on the arm in the alley, there's even a little blood spurt.

prove it

Robbingrobin
12/30/2012, 10:02 pm
There's also a cut where Mark lives if you leave David and David is eaten instead.

GUESS MARK'S STILL ALIVE GUYS

Yeah, he was no walkers as he bit Brenda, he was just like. "Hm, maybe human flesh is no bad?"

Robbingrobin
12/30/2012, 10:03 pm
I hope he's dead.

I hope he grows even MORE beard and comes back. He is such a cool guy! I really loved him, even if he did not appreciate all of my choices.

Mornai
12/30/2012, 11:22 pm
Yeah, these unused audio line don't really prove anything. In fact they point to him being alive even more, since they were cut and not used. Even if they left these in the game, there was still plenty of room for speculation, so that's not a very good reason to remove them.

I saw a close up of Kenny running off screen after shooting Ben, you can see it through the cracks in the bars on the far left side.

So really this doesn't change anything, the debate is still alive and always will be unless 100% concrete evidence of death is shown, which is not likely at this point in time.

Sutinen
12/31/2012, 05:00 am
That pretty much proves that there is a chance of him being alive. If they wanted him to die, they would have used those screams.

Octado
01/01/2013, 05:58 am
If they decided not to use them, then they probably wanted it to remain a mystery to us. Maybe he survived. So you kind of proved that he might of lived.

thesuperzapper
01/01/2013, 03:59 pm
It doesn't feel like TWD if Kenny survives.

Rock114
01/01/2013, 04:35 pm
It doesn't feel like TWD if Kenny survives.

Tyreese lived through a similar situation, so why couldn't Kenny?

HiggsBoson2142
01/01/2013, 04:56 pm
there's also a cut where mark lives if you leave david and david is eaten instead.

Guess mark's still alive guys

yes! I left david!

HiggsBoson2142
01/01/2013, 04:58 pm
Tyreese lived through a similar situation, so why couldn't Kenny?

Tyreese: Gets trapped in room full of walkers. Lives.

Governer: Gets arm cut off, eye scraped out, and flesh burned. Lives.

Logic.

marioluigi344
01/08/2013, 06:13 pm
Okay so i saw a thread a while ago about somebody showing who the people in the fields where (I believe it is this right here-http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41578)

So why don't we do that to the kenny thing to see if he really did run away off-screen in the ben scene, or if he got bit?

Mornai
01/09/2013, 06:20 am
Okay so i saw a thread a while ago about somebody showing who the people in the fields where (I believe it is this right here-http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41578)

So why don't we do that to the kenny thing to see if he really did run away off-screen in the ben scene, or if he got bit?

Hmm... I'll find my message from before on this matter:

Since it's always off-screen i don't think they would have made animations of him being eaten. I assume his character model walks out of view then stands there for a while and de-spawns, or however animation works(i have no clue).

Telltale has said that making death scenes for Lee is expensive, so it wouldn't make much sense to make a scene like that for Kenny that players wouldn't even see.

That's my opinion. Even if they made a death scene, they deliberately made the silhouettes generic because they know people can do this, so they'd probably make his death scene generic or some such as well(since it's obvious they want it ambiguous).

King Cam72
01/10/2013, 12:56 pm
I think they didn't show it for the reason that they really didn't need to. Originally it seems you would SEE Kenny getting ripped apart and screaming in agony, although it was changed to far more somber tone in the final version. I think Kenny's reason for running off-screen is that it would have genuinely let them get to him quicker. As soon as the camera cuts to Lee's face you can clearly hear Kenny getting pushed down and grunting in pain, and judging from Lee's face it seems he heard him.

Nuked
01/12/2013, 11:27 pm
If Ben dies in the bell tower, Kenny sacrifices himself to save Christa in a scene which makes his survival much more plausible.

Vladisimo
01/13/2013, 05:10 am
Anyone have any idea how they got those scenes?

Scolecite
01/13/2013, 03:01 pm
TellTale Extractor Tool.

CactusPresident
01/13/2013, 09:19 pm
If lee survived being cornered in an alley in episode 3, i don't see how our friend/mortal enemy with the awesome stache couldn't have survived. My idea is he shot Ben than out of panic he climbed down a manhole, or went inside a building.

Nuked
01/13/2013, 09:41 pm
If lee survived being cornered in an alley in episode 3, i don't see how our friend/mortal enemy with the awesome stache couldn't have survived. My idea is he shot Ben than out of panic he climbed down a manhole, or went inside a building.

He was saved by the stache.

aaron1290
01/15/2013, 01:57 pm
why dont we just extract is like scolecite said? not like i know what that means or anything! but we found out who the figures were why not extract if kenny was pinned down or not?

Corcline27
01/15/2013, 07:04 pm
i just finished episode 5.(for the third time). In this one kenny saves Crista and although i love the guy..THEY KILLED KENNY! you zombie bastards!