The Dark Knight

[Derwin]

Just got back from the movie, and wow does it live up to the hype. There were actually some surprises in the movie... the trailers actually led me to believe certain things about the story that turned out to be untrue. And the much ballyhooed Ledger performance was, to put it bluntly, amazing. Mannerisms and line delivery were spot on... a much different Joker than the one Jack Nicholson portrayed. Two thumbs and a pinky up.

What did other people think of this movie (without spoiling anything)?

[Shambling Corporate Poster]

Well, I think I might see it today, if time allows, so I'll be back later...

Anyways, all the reviews sound good, so I really look forward to it! =D

[someguyfromazoo]

I like how they made the Joker look.He looks crazy, but I think his make-up guy was probably drunk when he applied the make-up.

[TrogLlama]

I like how they made the Joker look.He looks crazy, but I think his make-up guy was probably drunk when he applied the make-up.
I think that's what they were going for.

Anyway, I'm probably going to see it today or tomorrow, depending on how things work out.

[vyperspit]

I believe the producers wanted a Joker that reflects the dark elements of the modern Gothem City and the psychological profile of the Batman himself. In the past, the Joker was viewed as a representation of the desires of the criminal mind to create terror as well as the thirst for mayhem and violence. The Joker in the movie is what the audience would expect from a villian who is a formidable foe for the hero, and he is certainly the kind of guy that doesn't clown around:D.

[someguyfromazoo]

and he is certainly the kind of guy that doesn't clown around:D.

But is still not very serious, "Why so serious?"

[gunsnroses444]

My brother's going to it in IMAX tonight. I'm way excited to see it.

[Shambling Corporate Poster]

Well, looking at Jack Nicholson's Joker, (Who looks much more like the Comic Book character), and Ledger's (WHo looks like a Physchopath who put on lipstick while drunk) very big diffrence.

Still, the Comic's and all do say that the Joker is a Physchopath- the reason he hasn't been arrested is because he took the Insanity Plea, which means you don't go to jail because u were legally Insane at the time...

So, The New look much more represents a Mad Man, rather than a more Family-typed Jack N.

[vyperspit]

Still, the Comic's and all do say that the Joker is a Physchopath- the reason he hasn't been arrested is because he took the Insanity Plea, which means you don't go to jail because u were legally Insane at the time...

I disagree. The Joker is psychopathic, but I think he is concious enough to know what he is doing is wrong. As far as I could tell, he's a sadistic sociopath, a person who is aware of his actions but has total disregaurd for other people's lives, and an impulsive need to inflict pain for his amusement. I was a student in abnormal psychology, ok.

[EMAN528]

For me, the move was just a little too dark and it dragged on a little too long. I am a huge Batman fan but this movie just seemed too chaotic. Some of the killings were very disturbing, which was the intent, but the amount of destruction caused by the Joker was just too over the top. I mean, was any of the city left in tact once he was done? Also, I think Leger's performance was a bit overrated and I believe is being praised so heavily for sentimental reasons. He was good, but I think Nicholson's Joker better captured the character. Leger's Joker really didn’t "joke" all that much, he was just a psychopath. Still, it was a great movie, better than all other Batman movies besides 1989 Batman and Batman Begins. Oh, and the way Two face was handled, though brief, was awesome.

[Harley Quinn]

It's not out here yet *grunts*

[xChri5x]

TODAY IS THE DAY!

I'm seeing it as soon as the theater opens. I prefer afternoon showings since it's usually not as busy.

[phillyman1025]

It was good. That's all I'm going to say.

[TrogLlama]

Just got back from seeing it.
Awesome film. I know Ledger's performance has been cited by many people before, but it really was good.
I think that the people behind this film really understood the psychological element to Batman (something that Schumacher never did). Towards the end of the movie, it struck me how utterly ridiculous Batman himself is. A guy who dresses up like a bat and fights crime? That's just silly. But that just made it even more amazing how well it all worked, and it works because they realize that in order to make an effective Batman movie, you need to explore things like morality and insanity and what it means to be a hero and even if being 'heroic' is the right thing to do.

So, um, anyway, yeah. Great film.

[jmm]

Oh, and the way Two face was handled, though brief, was awesome.

My thought exactly, his transformation puts Tommy Lee Jones' portrayal in line with Sunday's morning cartoons.

[Klemmins]

i saw it last night, and thought it was fantastic. All the Joker was trying to do was prove that everyone else is just as bad as he is. IMO, Ledger's performance was legendary. I pretty much loved everything about this movie.

[AllenB]

I thought that the movie was like a juggling act that dragged on for far too long before ending. Heath Ledger blows Nicholson's nuts off in terms of Joker awesomeness. The scenes with Batman in them were instantly forgettable. Then again, I never liked Batman; I only liked the bad guys.
I would have been happy, though, if through the entire movie the Joker was dressed in that nurse uniform and wig.

I went to see the movie with my friends and we found ourselves to the only people laughing when the Joker blows up the hospital, looks back and hits the detonator a few times before it blows up completely

[Klemmins]

It wasn't meant to be funny. My audience sucked and laughed at everything Joker did. And I mean EVERYTHING!!!

[tabacco]

Really? I thought that scene was pretty amusing.

[Kedri]

I liked it. Saw it in IMAX. :) Though we had a bit of a giggly audience, too.

[ShaggE]

Finally saw it. Definitely the best Batman film ever, even if Bale was constantly annoying with his growling.

As for Ledger's Joker, I was truly amazed. He's gotta have a posthumous Oscar for that. The only thing I miss is that Nicholson's Joker had a certain grandeur that this Joker didn't. But what he lacked in class, he made up for in sheer insanity.

[Rather Dashing]

I never liked Nocolson's Joker, and I'm sure I'm the only Joker fan ever to think so. But Ledger's was, well. Damn.

It was pretty close. As Shagg up above said, there was a lack of "class" that I usually associate with my favorite villain. But I went into the theater expecting it to be gone, because this version wasn't really wearing the suit and tie that I've grown so fond of. And they actually got the whole origin story deal perfect in my eyes, so I can't fault this version too much at all. It just worked.

[ShaggE]

^ Exactly. His "faults" aren't really faults at all, when taken into consideration. They could have just called this film "The Joker", really. He stole the show and then some.

Oh, and Two-Face: incredible effect there. He no longer looks like he's made of grape bubble gum, like the Jones version.

[Rather Dashing]

Or like he's half giant, Angry Bad Complexion Smurf like in the Animated Series?

I would've probably preferred a slightly cleaner shirt, but it all works out I suppose. And he definitely works in the Begins universe. And I have to admit, I loved the nods to my favorite Joker stories.

[Cardcaptor Stacey]

I'm hopefully seeing the film tomorrow! I really can't wait :)

[Harley Quinn]

Or like he's half giant, Angry Bad Complexion Smurf like in the Animated Series?



Don't. Mock. The. Animated. Series.

[vyperspit]

I like Two-Face because the outline of his character is unique. In my opinion, Two-Face's appearence symbolizes the two divisions of the human soul, the light and pure side, and the dark and corrupted side. Both halves share both the same body and mind, but Harvey Dent(Two-Face) was the manifestation of a man's struggle to choose right from wrong. Due to the traumatizing death of a lover, Harvey became consumed with anger, wrath, and confusion and developed a distrust of humanity. But because his moralities are in conflict with each other, he relies on chance to make decisions for him. On the other hand, instead of putting his faith on his continence, which is a human characteristic, Two-Face turned his trust in chance because it is neither good or evil. All he needs is a flip of a coin to decide a victim's fate.

[Shambling Corporate Poster]

I like Two-Face because the outline of his character is unique. In my opinion, Two-Face's appearence symbolizes the two divisions of the human soul, the light and pure side, and the dark and corrupted side. Both halves share both the same body and mind, but Harvey Dent(Two-Face) was the manifestation of a man's struggle to choose right from wrong. Due to the traumatizing death of a lover, Harvey became consumed with anger, wrath, and confusion and developed a distrust of humanity. But because his moralities are in conflict with each other, he relies on chance to make decisions for him. On the other hand, instead of putting his faith on his continence, which is a human characteristic, Two-Face turned his trust in chance because it is neither good or evil. All he needs is a flip of a coin to decide a victim's fate.
Wow. If I could understand a word of that, I'd say "Great way to put it."

[Rather Dashing]

Really? I thought their observations were rather basic, honestly. It was the very point that Nolan and Goyer were going for with Two Face, which was excellent because it was always how I'd seen Two Face.

[Shambling Corporate Poster]

Really? I thought their observations were rather basic, honestly. It was the very point that Nolan and Goyer were going for with Two Face, which was excellent because it was always how I'd seen Two Face.
That's great and all, but I'm obssessed with the Costumes, Make-up, and visual effects of this Movie. How did they create such a Half-toaster-faced character on a Handsome-looking guy? The Same with Heath Ledger, that make-up for the Joker was great!

and I loved how at the end they left Joker hanging on by a Thread. They don't even tell you what's happening to him... they just leave him hanging. Either way, we all know he won

[Rather Dashing]

The Make-up for the Joker was....interesting. The whole look was far less, well, CLEAN than I'd ever make it. I've always liked how the Joker always looked clean-cut, but all the colors were warped. But I can accept this version too, even though the meaning is a bit less subtle.

Two-Face, now he looked absolutely perfect.

[Shambling Corporate Poster]

The Make-up for the Joker was....interesting. The whole look was far less, well, CLEAN than I'd ever make it. I've always liked how the Joker always looked clean-cut, but all the colors were warped. But I can accept this version too, even though the meaning is a bit less subtle.

Two-Face, now he looked absolutely perfect.
way better than ol' Purple Face weirdo in Jones' version. I really liked the Joker to be messy. He's a PYSCHOPATH. The man's got no time to look good.

I really liked this version of him. Especially all the time's he asks, "Wonder how I got these Scars?"

That was so Creepy/awesome at the same time.

[sonicdude12]

Definately one of the best movies I've seen all summer. Though I really can't tell if I liked that, or Iron Man mor. Meh.:rolleyes:

[Silly Bob]

It wasn't meant to be funny. My audience sucked and laughed at everything Joker did. And I mean EVERYTHING!!!

i thought it was more the kind of joke that you laughed at, and then felt bad about it, the kind of joke that the Joker specializes in.

[sonicdude12]

I like Two-Face because the outline of his character is unique. In my opinion, Two-Face's appearence symbolizes the two divisions of the human soul, the light and pure side, and the dark and corrupted side. Both halves share both the same body and mind, but Harvey Dent(Two-Face) was the manifestation of a man's struggle to choose right from wrong. Due to the traumatizing death of a lover, Harvey became consumed with anger, wrath, and confusion and developed a distrust of humanity. But because his moralities are in conflict with each other, he relies on chance to make decisions for him. On the other hand, instead of putting his faith on his continence, which is a human characteristic, Two-Face turned his trust in chance because it is neither good or evil. All he needs is a flip of a coin to decide a victim's fate.
By the way, you did a good job at telling some of the biggest suprises in the movie.

[Rather Dashing]

i thought it was more the kind of joke that you laughed at, and then felt bad about it, the kind of joke that the Joker specializes in.

...THAT'S it.

That's what the cringing through laughter was. xD

Only, I tended to cringe first, then laugh.

....Except with the detonator scene.

"HAHAHA....oh crap, he blew up a hospital. Ha. *cringe*"

[ShaggE]

@Sonicdude: How so? Everything he mentioned is common knowledge to Batman fans.

[sonicdude12]

:o Oh. Never really was a batman fan. I saw the movies 'cause they were majorly awsome according to reviews. And the reviews were definately right.:D

[Shambling Corporate Poster]

see, the way Joker did things were somewhat Funny. you laugh, then he blows something up... some examples for ppl who have already seen it:

This one is just silly :

*Joker presses detotonater* *Few windows blow open, bad damage happens*

*Joker seems Displeased and unhappy* *presses detonater again, Whole Hospital explodes and Collapses, Joker rusn off laughing*

The Audience laughed at about where he seems displeased. it was stupid. Then they cringed in horror as he did the second thing.

*Has Man at Knife-point in Police Holding Cell* "I would like my Phone Call" *Audience Laugh*

Ten seconds later, the guys stomach has a DETONATER IN IT. NO LAUGHES. *CRINGING* *Blows up*

That was the scary and gross part.

ok, the best part was this: Listen to this: THE WHOLE AUDIENCE APPLAUDED WHEN Commander Gordon was revealed to be alive

That was awesome. Never in a Movie experience have I had an audience clap in the middle of a movie?! That was too cool. Too cool.

[LuigiHann]

Am I the only one who thought the special effects on Two-face were overdone? This was the one opportunity to have a truly believable live-action Two-face, and we get something that (in my opinion) looked like it came from Terminator 3.

Still, in terms of character development, I thought it was perfect. And I really liked the way they handled the coin.

[ShaggE]

I think if they made it too realistic, it might have been a bit too grotesque for the MPAA's comfort.

[biscuitdoughhandsman]

Best movie ever besides waynes world

[Derwin]

Am I the only one who thought the special effects on Two-face were overdone? This was the one opportunity to have a truly believable live-action Two-face, and we get something that (in my opinion) looked like it came from Terminator 3.

Still, in terms of character development, I thought it was perfect. And I really liked the way they handled the coin.

I would have preferred a more "burn victim" look than "string cheese face" or "the mummy" (however you see it), but I far prefer this movie's Two Face visuals to the Jones version. And the character was a lot better too... not just some pawn of the Riddler. (stupid Tommy Lee Jones... grumble grumble)

[Snocat]

I finally saw it! Wow! Everything about this moving was so awesome! The joker was a refreshingly new and beleivable character. In fact, there was only one thing I did not like about this movie. Batman. His mask makes his face look fat and angry (with small beady eyes) and his low raspy voice severely annoys me. I would much prefer the classic deep voice. But that didn't stop me at all from loving the movie.
I'm suprised I didn't see the thing with Harvy Dent coming considering he was always flipping that coin...
Anyways, there is a lot of tragedy and killing that is normally prevented by the superhero in other movies. This movie really is a cliche killer, A+ :D

[Harley Quinn]

Seeing it today, can't wait.

[AllenB]

In fact, there was only one thing I did not like about this movie. Batman. His mask makes his face look fat and angry (with small beady eyes) and his low raspy voice severely annoys me. I would much prefer the classic deep voice. But that didn't stop me at all from loving the movie.

I'm Batma.. *cough*

I was waiting for him to start coughing through every one of his lines.
And why does he still use the voice with people who know that he is Batman?
I always hated Batman but loved the villains.

[Sterrance]

In my mind The Dark Knight is the best action film ever made hands down. It had everything I'd want from a Batman film and more. Ledgers performance was extraordinary.

[Linque]

Incredibly there was only one point where the movie failed plot-wise. When they're escortig Harvey Dent, presuming he's Batman, they encounter the flaming firetruck. Instead of doing the obvious thing and going to the oncoming traffic lane (road's closed anyhow), they go into the freaking tunnel, even though they rely heavily on air support.

I wasn't really even thinking about inconsistencies, but my instincts just screamed that that's the wrong course of action.

But it was a pretty awesome movie. Slightly overrated though. It's very good, but hardly the best movie ever made. Best comic-book movie ever made? Definitely. But I'd rank it into the same area as Sin City or Kill Bill.

[tabacco]

Heh... That hadn't occurred to me, but you're totally right.

[TrogLlama]

Well... uh... maybe they saw the firetruck and paniced. If you're facing down a flaming truck, are you going to think rationally? Or maybe the other road was sealed with fairy dust... or something...
[/epileptictree]

[someguyfromazoo]

Warning:fairy dust ahead.

[Derwin]

That part irked me a bit too... at first I thought maybe the lead driver was one of the Joker's minions but there was nothing in the movie to actually hint to that in the later scenes.

[Snocat]

Why didn't they just call in Superman in to lift the flaming firetruck? I mean really.
God damn Superman, always has to outdo any other super hero because he's freakin invincible and has a million powers. Maybe that's why nobody likes him. Or maybe its the collorful tights and underwear combo :o

[dentbuds]

the Joker blows up the hospital, looks back and hits the detonator a few times before it blows up completely

I thought that part was hilarious. I really liked how they made two-face, but they should have made it so he didn't die!!! he was too awesome to die. great movie. 4 and a half stars (half taken off because they just made it a little too long. they could have ended it when they caught joker the first time)

[dentbuds]

i also thought it was funny at the beginning when all of the jokers minions just kept on killing each other. it was just so random!!!!

[Harley Quinn]

Completely loved it, was in awe. Gary Oldman, Michael Caine and Morgan Freeman were brilliant. What I missed though is that it lacked Two-Face's history of spilt-personality which he had before he became Two-Face. Otherwise, brilliant.

[Kralex]

i also thought it was funny at the beginning when all of the jokers minions just kept on killing each other. it was just so random!!!!

How was that random? There was clearly a lot of, albeit twisted, logic behind it. Does everything causing even the slightest source of amusement have to be "random"?

Okay that unwarranted nit picking aside, I thought the film was pretty good. I enjoyed it a lot more than the last and as everyone on the face of the earth has said Heath Ledger is fantastic as The Joker.

[ladognome]

i thought the movie was great.
my mom didn't like it cuz she thought it was too violent, but come on! at least we didn't actually see the cheek cutting like in Pan's Labyrinth! :rolleyes:

[Shambling Corporate Poster]

i also thought it was funny at the beginning when all of the jokers minions just kept on killing each other. it was just so random!!!!
lol, that was funny/random for me. Soon I understood it, and laughed. It's crazy. XD

Minion 1: *Minion puts up gun to other minion* "So let me guess... the boss told you to kill me once I was done"

Minion 2: *sigh* "No, I kill the Bus Driver,"

Minion 1: "What Bus driver?" *Bus breaks through wall, killing Minion 1*

Minion 3: "Where are all the other Guys?"

*Minion 2 guns him down, revealing himself as the Joker*

I loved this small portion of the script. such awesome, fitted into one small place. ^_^

[vyperspit]

By the way, you did a good job at telling some of the biggest suprises in the movie.

What do you mean? Did I accidently reveal spoilers?!:confused:

[TrogLlama]

What do you mean? Did I accidently reveal spoilers?!:confused:
I think he meant the Two-Face part. I suppose it's a spoiler of sorts (I didn't see coming until he burnt his face, but I never really watched the show or read the comics), but a little research reveals that Harvey Dent has always been Two-Face, so you probably should know this already.

[Strong Max]

Ok heres my TWO-CENTS (get it? two-cents...), It ties in increadibly well with batman begins giving a nod with the Scarecrow scandel at the begining (get it? Batman BEGINS, at the BEGINNING). The Joker was the best one I have ever seen. I like to think it was taken mostly from the animated series with a little of Ledger's personal depresion mixed in. Two-face was exelently portrayed by Eckhart and it allowed his real non-understanding on life shine in. In Batman Forever he would flip the coin many times befor the desiered outcome and is more indepdand on chece than I wanted him to be. It changed in the Dark Night. Now I have learned that I must do everything in my power to play Dick Grayson in the next mmovie, by the way, next person to tell me the names of the superheros Dick becomes gets a prize that I will make up between posts.

[jmm]

Hmmm... Night Crawler....?, Night Arm....?, Night Plane....?

Perhaps Nightwing? ;)

[Strong Max]

Hmmm... Night Crawler....?, Night Arm....?, Night Plane....?

Perhaps Nightwing? ;)

YOU WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN an imaginary duck.

whats with that face?

Why so serious?

ah...ahhh, argh AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!:eek:

[Snocat]

This video pretty much sum's up Batman's role in the movie (no spoilers)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2yv8aT0UFc

[the_napoleon]

I'm about to go see it in a couple hours, finally.

[LuigiHann]

This video pretty much sum's up Batman's role in the movie (no spoilers)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2yv8aT0UFc

I got bored halfway through, but it's amusing at the beginning anyway.

[Bobeo]

I think the funniest Joker part was when he made the knife disappear.

[the_napoleon]

I think the funniest Joker part was when he made the knife disappear.

Wasn't it a pencil?:confused:

[Bobeo]

Oh yeah it was a pencil.

[Ooze33]

I think the funniest Joker part was when he made the knife disappear.

That part was kind of a "laugh then look around nervously" thing for me.

Also, I just made a video that uses The Dark Knight's main trailer:
http://www.livevideo.com/video/1D263E2EE5214F5E9FB1ED0FDCAD3C8B/avatar-the-dark-knight-trail.aspx

[purple_monkfish]

Went and saw it a few days back (yeah yeah, we have a toddler, it aint easy to get to the movies when we want) and yeah, it was good. Felt a little overlong, like two films meshed together. I got this whole "yep, this is the ending" satisfaction and then it started again for another hour and a half!? but still, very good.

I loved the Joker's portrayal, less chaotic in the giggling loon sort of way and more scary psycho, which appeals. Sad thing is, I second guessed all his plans before they were revealed to the audience. Were they that obvious or am I just a bit odd?
I did fully anticipate the detonators for the ships to be a double bluff. He said they had the other ships one, I so expected one lot to press the button and blow themselves up because they had their OWN detonator

Alfred was awesome as always (I do so love Alfred) and Two face, now he was great. The way they did that effect.. woah. though what the hell burns that hot that quick?
I loved the origin for the coin, the way he was totally driven by chance (as he SHOULD be damnit) and had a very very good reason for being how he was. One of the better ways of covering his origin i've seen. Most of the time it's off screen and you don't really care about Harvey.

Anyway, it lived up to the hype certainly. I enjoyed it thoroughly.

[Soultaker]

I did fully anticipate the detonators for the ships to be a double bluff. He said they had the other ships one, I so expected one lot to press the button and blow themselves up because they had their OWN detonator
Was there a double bluff though? I'm not sure it became clear in the movie; both ways make sense for the Joker, since either way at most one ship would be blown up.

Two face, now he was great. The way they did that effect.. woah.
I loved the origin for the coin, the way he was totally driven by chance (as he SHOULD be damnit) and had a very very good reason for being how he was.
I liked the attention they gave to Harvey's character and how he develops his split personality too. I didn't really like the CGI face though; it was a bit too fake for my taste. I think a more realistic burn-victim-look would have been far more unsettling and more appropriate for as serious (versus cartoony) a movie as this was.

[TrogLlama]

Was there a double bluff though? I'm not sure it became clear in the movie; both ways make sense for the Joker, since either way at most one ship would be blown up.


I liked the attention they gave to Harvey's character and how he develops his split personality too. I didn't really like the CGI face though; it was a bit too fake for my taste. I think a more realistic burn-victim-look would have been far more unsettling and more appropriate for as serious (versus cartoony) a movie as this was.
As for the double bluff thing, you'll notice that after both sides decide not to press the button the Joker looks surprised, having expected them to have blown each other up by then.
Of course, he did have an actual detonation switch, he just didn't expect to have to use it.

[Harley Quinn]

YOU WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN an imaginary duck.

whats with that face?

Why so serious?

ah...ahhh, argh AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!:eek:

Well he was Robin then Nightwing.

I'm still wanting to play Harley. But pfft, I doubt she's even gonna get a chance to be in a film now tat Ledger has popped his clogs.