Bonus DVD ala Sam & Max?

[Mysterysheep]

It's probably a bit early to ask considering the first episode hasn't even been released yet but will you guys be planning a Bonus DVD for SBCG4AP? And if so will it be available for both the Wii and PC version?

I'm kinda expecting an "It's too early to say" answer but I might as well post this anyway just in case.

Thanks! :)

[splash1]

i think at the begining they said they didn't have any plans at all for a Bonus Disk yet

[Shmeh]

But does that mean that there don't have plans to create a disc or that they don't have plans for what to put on it? (Apart from the game of course.)

[nathew]

But does that mean that there don't have plans to create a disc or that they don't have plans for what to put on it? (Apart from the game of course.)

both.

[Zootch]

That's really the only way I would buy them for the PC. I usually need something tangible when I buy something online. Having them backed up on the internet is nice, but I need a physical disc to feel like I'm getting my money's worth.

[Yellowtail]

Maybe there could be a wii disk release with a compilation of the episodes and bonuses.

[nathew]

yeah, maybe... if you have your wii shop account linked to a my nintendo account, and it shows you have all the episodes purchased...

but i doubt that would happen.

[Emily]

If we were to do a bonus disc for Strong Bad, what kind of stuff would you guys want to see on it?

[Rather Dashing]

Oh oh! :D

The usual cutscenes and blooper real.

Commentary with Telltale and the Chapmans would be nice.

A reversable DVD case, the other side being a Videlectrix style box.

Peasant's Quest II! (I'm gonna keep asking until I get it!)

Source art for things specifically for these games. For example, the Videlectrix game boxes in large, possibly print and paper foldable form!

A seperate menu just to play the Videlectrix games without launching that game's SBCG4AP episode. That carries over any cheat codes or what have-you from your most recent save.

[bigdondoo]

Peasant's Quest II! (I'm gonna keep asking until I get it!)


I just listened to an interview (http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Late_Nite_JengaJam_Interview_-_4_Oct_2007) where the Chapmans talk about PQ2, and also level 10 of Stinkoman and Thy Dungeon Man IV. They also talked about a second album ("Strong Bad Still Sings?"). You have Jonathan Howe (http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/Jonathan_Howe)to thank for the fact that there's been no PQ2.

[Rather Dashing]

I think Telltale is a bit more resourceful than Jonathan.

HINT HINT.

HINT.

....Hinty hinty hint hint.

I'm hinting something Telltale.

...

It's that you should do something with Peasant's Quest.

[Emily]

Peasant's Quest II! (I'm gonna keep asking until I get it!)

Ha! I've been wanting a Peasant's Quest II for years now. :D

[Rather Dashing]

Then obviously you guys should do *something* about that.

I mean, last time I checked, you had computers. That you use. To make VIDEO GAMES.

ADVENTURE video games, no less!

Anyway....

I would just love to see the Videlectrix partnership to be played out to its fullest. I can see why you'd have to not let them work on this game made with NEW computers(I'm sure The Cheat would approve), I don't see why you can't let them design an innocuous alternate box cover. ;)

....any chance you could fit that game on a floppy disk? xD

[Derwin]

A reversable DVD case, the other side being a Videlectrix style box.


This is a great idea, if it wouldn't be too big of a hassle.

I think a secret (oops, guess not secret anymore) video of StrongBad playing SBCG4AP could be hilarious. I just think the DVD needs tons of easter eggs, a la the sbemails. Click this spot... ooh, a surprise. Click this spot... ooh another.

[ShaggE]

"DVD"?? What do you guys think you are, spacemans? What happened to the good old days of floppies!? THE HEYDAYS! :p

But yeah, I'd love to see some Valve-style commentary, as Rather Dashing mentioned.

[Shmeh]

"DVD"?? What do you guys think you are, spacemans? What happened to the good old days of floppies!? THE HEYDAYS! :p

But yeah, I'd love to see some Valve-style commentary, as Rather Dashing mentioned.

I hope when you say valve-style, you are talking about the commentary triggers in maps, because the valve guys are really boring. The commentary on Sam and Max Season 1 disc was heaps better than anything I heard on Orange Box.

[Rather Dashing]

I didn't exactly mean anything like the commentary in Portal(which is the only game I've played from Valve). I found the Portal commentary to be fascinating, but I don't think that would work nearly as well in an Adventure game.

But maybe a "Commentary Mode" where you can click on things to get little commentary snippets about that part of an environment? Or...uh, I'd be fine with a "Making of: Environments/Puzzles/Music/Things That Aren't Story" bits. The story parts can be commented on just fine with a cutscene reel like in the Sam and Max DVDs.

Of course, all of the above is asking quite a bit.

....But you're Telltale, and you ALWAYS outdo yourselves...^_^

Also, back to my favorite idea:

Y'know, if not a reversable cover, then you could just....ship it with a second cover? :)

[thesporkman]

I've always enjoyed the absurd fake making-of mockumentaries the Brothers Chaps whipped up for some of the Strong Bad DVDs in which they claim that they do the voices using cardboard tubes and animate the characters using motion capture and whatnot. It would be great if they could come up with something similar, except in character as the Videlectrix guys.

[Shmeh]

Y'know, if not a reversable (sic) cover, then you could just....ship it with a second cover? :)

A second cover would be better for the consumer, as a reversible one would eventually tear if it is reversed too many times. The second cover would cost more money to produce though. Maybe if SBCG4AP has something similar to case files, the second cover could be part of that.

[Zootch]

the second cover should be printed upside down on the other side of the case.

[azza29]

Yeah I'd like a bonus dvd, even if there weren't many extras, just to have a physical souvenir of the game.

[Shmeh]

the second cover should be printed upside down on the other side of the case.

The problem with that, is that the disc couldn't be sold later in retail stores, as the back of the cover needs to contain, among other things, the blurb. It would be a great solution if the disc is only ever sold from the Telltate Store as that information can be obtained from the website and the reverse cover (unless advertised) can only be seen after the purchase anyway.

I noticed that people have been assuming bonus disc to mean DVD. Would it be possible for a bonus Wii disc for Wii customers? If the bonus disc was to contain the game like the Sam and Max discs, then wouldn't the bonus disc for the Wii customers have to be a Wii disc. (I assume Nintendo doesn't use DVD's for the Wii, but I don't know.)

[TrogLlama]

The problem with that, is that the disc couldn't be sold later in retail stores, as the back of the cover needs to contain, among other things, the blurb. It would be a great solution if the disc is only ever sold from the Telltate Store as that information can be obtained from the website and the reverse cover (unless advertised) can only be seen after the purchase anyway.

I noticed that people have been assuming bonus disc to mean DVD. Would it be possible for a bonus Wii disc for Wii customers? If the bonus disc was to contain the game like the Sam and Max discs, then wouldn't the bonus disc for the Wii customers have to be a Wii disc. (I assume Nintendo doesn't use DVD's for the Wii, but I don't know.)
They do use DVDs, but they have a special encoding so you can't really use them anywhere else.

[Zootch]

The blurb could still be there, just dress it up with fancy text or surround the text with wheat ears.
I have seen that crap obnoxiously placed on the front box art of other games, something a gaudy parody company like Videlectrix would do.

[ShaggE]

I hope when you say valve-style, you are talking about the commentary triggers in maps, because the valve guys are really boring. The commentary on Sam and Max Season 1 disc was heaps better than anything I heard on Orange Box.

Yeah, I meant clickables. I like how Starbreeze Studios (Riddick: Escape From Butcher Bay) did it, with one subject tackled on each clickable logo.

[Rather Dashing]

Y'know, another thing I'd like is if the discs themselves were done floppy style.

Not actual floppies, mind you, just the design on the CD.

Like so:

http://www.hrwiki.org/images/c/c4/Videlectrix_T-shirt_Close.PNG

Or-a like so:

http://www.hrwiki.org/images/f/f9/Floppy_secret_identity.png

With "SBCG4AP: Disk 1 of 5" seemingly written on in sharpie.

[Gino]

Y'know, another thing I'd like is if the discs themselves were done floppy style.

Not actual floppies, mind you, just the design on the CD.

Like so:

http://www.hrwiki.org/images/c/c4/Videlectrix_T-shirt_Close.PNG

Or-a like so:

Big

With "SBCG4AP: Disk 1 of 5" seemingly written on in sharpie.
Like the Homestar DVDs they sell at the store.

[Rather Dashing]

Like the Homestar DVDs they sell at the store.

Wait, whatnow?

I haven't bought any of the DVDs, so...did they already use my idea for a DVD? :eek:

[Gino]

Wait, whatnow?

I haven't bought any of the DVDs, so...did they already use my idea for a DVD? :eek:

Yup. I rented all the SBemail ones, and they had pictures of floppy disks with the word SBemail and the number of the disk.

[Travis_Touchdown]

I would love to see some sort of commentary on the bonus disc. Maybe something with the Videlectrix guys as well. Oh, and a behind-the-scenes process to one of the episodes with sub-sections of the process. Like the voice-acting, animation, planning process, etc.

[Rather Dashing]

Okay, how's this:

The guys at Telltale get a commentary for their part of the game, and Videlectrix can get a commentary for Snake Boxer. ;)

[Freelance Poster]

Some bonus toons from the Chaps would be an awesome extra

[Pywackett-Barchetta]

I'd like to see the fourth wall be destroyed. Like the S&M DVD crossover.
The C.O.P.S. and Strong Bad seem to have a common belief.
Or commentary on the cutscenes, yeah. I have confidence in Telltale, nevertheless.

[Shambling Corporate Poster]

Don't forget a Blooper reel, people! We need that! And Deleted Scenes/Parts would be cool as well.

Finally, there must be a Music Video, with the Cast in Club Technochocolate dancing it out!

[iandaemon]

I would personally LOVE to have a Wii disc of the games once the series is complete. I was actually thinking about pre-ordering the PC episodes (even though I'd never play them) just to get a DVD of the series.

I'm already going to buy each episode for the Wii. Is there a way I can register the games with Telltale or send them emails from the game to prove that I have them all?

(This probably isn't possible, but I figured I'd ask it anyway.)

I vote for a Wii compilation! (Heck, I'd even settle for a PC compilation purchased separately after the fact.)

[Shambling Corporate Poster]

I would personally LOVE to have a Wii disc of the games once the series is complete. I was actually thinking about pre-ordering the PC episodes (even though I'd never play them) just to get a DVD of the series.

I'm already going to buy each episode for the Wii. Is there a way I can register the games with Telltale or send them emails from the game to prove that I have them all?

(This probably isn't possible, but I figured I'd ask it anyway.)

I vote for a Wii compilation! (Heck, I'd even settle for a PC compilation purchased separately after the fact.)
*clap, clap*

This Idea FTW! ^_^

[Quuux]

(Heck, I'd even settle for a PC compilation purchased separately after the fact.)

As with sam & max, you can always buy the season on PC afterwards then.

[RobD]

Commentary by StrongBad would be nice. ;)

[Emily]

I'm already going to buy each episode for the Wii. Is there a way I can register the games with Telltale or send them emails from the game to prove that I have them all?

(This probably isn't possible, but I figured I'd ask it anyway.)


Probably not, since we don't have access to Nintendo's customer records (the same question has been asked by customers who played Sam & Max on Steam and GameTap). From a business standpoint, it's kind of a sticky situation.

[Awesome5]

Probably not, since we don't have access to Nintendo's customer records (the same question has been asked by customers who played Sam & Max on Steam and GameTap). From a business standpoint, it's kind of a sticky situation.

Dang... I was hoping for a bonus disk for Wii owners... What if there was a channel on WiiWare that costs nothing/hardly anything that has the same content of the bonus disk with maybe something extra?

[Rather Dashing]

Dang... I was hoping for a bonus disk for Wii owners... What if there was a channel on WiiWare that costs nothing/hardly anything that has the same content of the bonus disk with maybe something extra?

I'm not sure Wiiware allows for such a thing, but that would be very interesting. You know, if they COULD release a channel with all of the videos in the bonus disc, for maybe $5(the price of shipping for just the DVD in the US).

But I'm pretty sure Nintendo wouldn't do such a thing, and I'm not sure they *can*, honestly.

[Ben Again]

They could, likley, but why not just make a Wii bonus disk on a Wii disk!?

[Weeblerjake]

The Snake Boxer Five manual would be really cool to own.

[Rather Dashing]

They could, likley, but why not just make a Wii bonus disk on a Wii disk!?

The problem is that they couldn't prove you owned all the episodes, so they couldn't give you a disc with all of the games on it.

But what they could do, potentially, is find a way to give Wii owners just the extras for a price. Not sure if this would be open to any "exploitation" by PC owners or anything, but whatever.

[axelkothe]

They could do the extra stuff for Wii as downloadable content for the game. not an extra channel, but instead inside the episode itself.

And yes, I would love to get a bonus disk like we did with sam & max, at least for the PC customers.

[Flo]

Might be a bit technical, but I would like to see a featurette about how the art style was achieved (basically emulating the Flash-style of the website in a 3D game).

Also, assuming that there were screen tests of the characters and environments before the art style was finalized, those would be interesting to see.

Finally, though this is probably asking way too much, how about a featurette with Strong Bad answering questions from forum users?

[bobmarleypeople]

Warning before I continue to post, I may start ranting a bit cos I'm known to get on a roll if I start talking. Here goes...

<hem hem>

I think what will probably happen for PC users will be the usual affair with S+M and have a bonus disc for just the cost of shipping. Nothing unusual there.

For the Wii users, they should be given something (especially since us Brits are paying roughly twice the price you Americans are: 1000 Wii points = £7.00 = $12.748) but, since TellTale don't have the customer records from Nintendo, it would be impossible to track people's orders in the same way as the PC version. To fix this, there's a few theories I have:

a) Nintendo allow game developers to update games and allow previous purchasers to download the update for free, and new buyers download the latest version anyways (this is how Nintendo fixed some bugs when some VC games were played through component cable). Therefore, TellTale could create a serial number system in each of the episodes to register the episode on the TellTale website. Perhaps combine the episode ID with your customer ID on the shop channel or sommit. Then, registering the code on the TT site would count towards the whole season (perhaps people could mix 'n' match Wii and PC purchases towards the bonus disc?).

2) Allow people to add a "TellTale SBCG4AP Registrations" Wii friend and send a message to it from each episode, a code is then returned to you through the game that relates to your Wii number (stop multiple codes and reduce on fraud etc) the code is then entered on the TT site and then same as above.

Z) Give Nintendo lots of delicious cake and hope they allow access to SBCG4AP customer records.


Although I'm very confident on number three working, the first two might be your best bet. Although the first one may need a bit of thought as to the coding, it would be the most foolproof and most anti-fraud of the first two. The third one would be perfect, but I don't think Nintendo like their cake much, even if it is delicious.


Ideas for the disc:

Since the Sam and Max discs have been so popular, I think that sticking to that general format would be a good idea. Commentaries, trailers, mini-games? etc. However, for the guys on the Wii, it may be a little more complicated.

People on the PC may be a little miffed if the Wii guys got a disc with all the PC versions on so they now have both PC and Wii versions while PC buyers only get the PC version. Therefore, a Wii specific disc would probably be necessary.

tl;dr

It's really up to TellTale on what they do, but I'd really like a bonus disc if I buy the Wii versions. I bought episode one for Wii but I like playing on both Wii and PC. I'm considering buying the season pass for PC as it costs about the same as three episodes (after tax) on the Wii (in the UK) but if TellTale offer a Wii bonus disc, I may reconsider.

In conclusion

Well that's my one penny (according to today's exchange rate). I hope TellTale have a think about what I've put.

Message to TellTale: If you use any of my ideas, can I be put into the credits? Pretty please :D

[Kincyr]

a) Nintendo allow game developers to update games and allow previous purchasers to download the update for free, and new buyers download the latest version anyways (this is how Nintendo fixed some bugs when some VC games were played through component cable). Therefore, TellTale could create a serial number system in each of the episodes to register the episode on the TellTale website. Perhaps combine the episode ID with your customer ID on the shop channel or sommit. Then, registering the code on the TT site would count towards the whole season (perhaps people could mix 'n' match Wii and PC purchases towards the bonus disc?).
I think the part about updating WiiWare games is already possible, but I like the idea of the mix 'n' match, since then you wouldn't end up buying both versions of one or more episodes to get the bonus disc
2) Allow people to add a "TellTale SBCG4AP Registrations" Wii friend and send a message to it from each episode, a code is then returned to you through the game that relates to your Wii number (stop multiple codes and reduce on fraud etc) the code is then entered on the TT site and then same as above.
or possibly a Wii Points rebate for registering every episode or getting the final episode free for registering the rest of the episodes, sort of like a pseudo-bundle pack.

...okay, I admit I'm pushing my luck there but the PC version is less expensive and it has a bundle pack to lower the price further.

[Jake]

Hey guys, again, as has been said a handful of times before, we currently have no plans for a bonus disc for Wii users.

[DrRocketGenius]

A few extra SBemails would be awesome. Oh, and some of those machima (or however you spell it) would be awesome, too.

When the Behind The Bad series completes, maybe you could but that on the disc. :0 (A DVD exclusive one would be cool, too.)

[tim333]

I really liked what Telltale did with the Sam and Max DVDs, especially the second one. What would really excite me about extras on a hypothetical SBCG4AP DVD, though, would be some kind of involvement from the bros. Chaps on the extras. Like, if they could do some commentary or put a little toon or something together for the DVD, that would be awesome.