Affection Expressions

[Holyxion]

Ere's the list:

1. Talk to Strong Sad about the bats twice
2. Give the fun machine to Bubs
3. Talk to Coach Z about Marzipan twice
4. Have Marzipan sign a glossy for Strong Bad
5. Have Marzipan sign a glossy for Coach Z
6. Have Coach Z recite poetry for Marzipan
7. Talk to Limozeen about the Two-O-Duo
8. Talk to the Blubbo's whale twice at the PornStar concert
9. Talk to Coach Z after the Two-O-Duo break up
10.Argh! don't have this!

Please help with this very incomplete list.

[Trogdorman]

well you also

Talk to Strong Mad about the fun machine
give the fun machine to Bubs, I think, or maybe you talk to Strong Sad about it
and Talk to Coach Z while he's in the locker room about Marzipan

[Holyxion]

Thanks, editing...

[Holyxion]

Done!

[Trogdorman]

good, now we just need the others

[poohead900]

Try this, I did and have 8 of 10
show marzipan the bats before they're albinoized
It seems like affection

[poohead900]

9 of 10, and it was either
Talking to Coach Z in extended play,
or
Talking to Homsar in extended play

[Gman5852]

I have done all these and only have 8. With all these facts I should have 9.

[Ninja]

I have done all these and only have 8. With all these facts I should have 9.

Talking to Homsar and Coach Z doesn't get you points.

[poohead900]

Well I did something between talking to Homsar (checked beforehand and had 8) and Talking to Coach Z (After doing that I had 9)

I dont remember what I did in between them, It wasn't much.
Coach Z does say 3 different things though.

[Cyberlink420]

Talking to Strong Mad about the Funmachine doesn't get you points.

[poohead900]

Just gonna throw this out there in case anybody figured something out about it....
Maybe, just maybe, it has something to do with a glossy signed by Marzipan to Homsar. Seems to me that it doesn't serve any other purpose, and no matter what I can't give it to Homsar.

[Ninja]

Perhaps Biscuit Doughhandsman is one? Ask about judges.

[poohead900]

Done, and done. Stuck at 9 in extended play

[Cyberlink420]

Just checked; Biscuitdoughhandsman doesn't do anything. Showing Marzipan the fruit bats doesn't either.

[Ninja]

When the bats are not bleached and you show them to marzipan, you don't get a point.

[poohead900]

Duly noted. Didn't check when I did it, just remember getting an affectionate response.

[Ninja]

Get a glossy signed, then give it to homestar before he sings.

[Cyberlink420]

That doesn't work either.

[Holyxion]

Let's see, that all right? Talking to Coach Z/Homsar doesn't help, neither talking to Strong Mad 'bout the Funmachine is all, correct?

[poohead900]

Right now I'm in hindsight trying to remember where I may have gotten the 9 I got, just for clarification. Thought of another one:
If you talk to Marzipan (before Coach Z breaks her window) about Coach Z, she says something about Strong Bad and a secret admirer. Affectionate? Who knows. Anybody around that point want to try it out?

[Ninja]

One is have Coach Z recite Poetry while trying to get marzipan's attention.

[poohead900]

Hey everyone, try talking to Coach Z 3 times in extended play, just fired up my game from last night. Had 5/10. Did nothing but go to the track, and talk to Coach Z 3 times. Bam, 6/10

[poohead900]

One is have Coach Z recite Poetry while trying to get marzipan's attention.

Makes sense, did that and still stuck at 9.

[Ninja]

Right now I'm in hindsight trying to remember where I may have gotten the 9 I got, just for clarification. Thought of another one:
If you talk to Marzipan (before Coach Z breaks her window) about Coach Z, she says something about Strong Bad and a secret admirer. Affectionate? Who knows. Anybody around that point want to try it out?
That didn't get me a point. But I do remember that at one point you can make her think it's you. I believe it's if you show pom pom's food related love to her.

[Ninja]

Let's see, that all right? Talking to Coach Z/Homsar doesn't help, neither talking to Strong Mad 'bout the Funmachine is all, correct?
no, it didn't.

[Holyxion]

Good, anything else I should change?

[Cyberlink420]

Giving Coach Z the signed glossy works. So does asking Marzipan to make out a glossy to you.

That didn't get me a point. But I do remember that at one point you can make her think it's you. I believe it's if you show pom pom's food related love to her.

Tried that; Strong Bad said I couldn't even use that on her. Although I did find out that something different happens if you give Marzipan the bleached bats while Coach Z is outside No change in rank, though.

[poohead900]

Alright, here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D434GRi9aoM

Maybe I missed something before extended play, maybe not. Did have 5, then had 6 after talking to Coach Z 3 times in extended.

Yesterday's game, in today's I have 9/10

My first youtube upload, gimme some slack.

[Ninja]

Giving Coach Z the signed glossy works. So does asking Marzipan to make out a glossy to you.



Tried that; Strong Bad said I couldn't even use that on her. Although I did find out that something different happens if you give Marzipan the bleached bats while Coach Z is outside No change in rank, though.
I had her make one out to me, but for some reason I didn't get a point. However, I did get one in my first save (but that could be the following point rewarder). You do get points via the coach z poetry option.

[Cyberlink420]

Talk to Limozeen about Two-O-Duo before they start sucking, possibly twice. Also, talk to Coach Z AFTER he starts sucking, but at the Pomstar concert. Also, talk to the whale at the concert, possibly twice.

[Holyxion]

So, does talking to Coach Z affect it? I tried it, didn't work for me, but that's a pretty convincing Youtube video...

[poohead900]

I read somewhere else here that getting the last manual page from playing the record at club t-c was a glitch, and that worked for me. I got that point twice in separate games by talking to Coach Z in extended play 3 times. Maybe I just got a glitchy game, and this is a glitch. Who knows. I'm sticking with it, thats why I recorded a video of it.

[Gman5852]

I read somewhere else here that getting the last manual page from playing the record at club t-c was a glitch.

The first time no, it's not a glitch, but keep doing it and you will get ALL the manual pages every 2 times you do the wiggle starting at the first time you play it.

[Gman5852]

Guys I've found one!!! Before you take the funmachine to Bubs, talk to strong Sad about the bats twice. I did it and it worked. I checked after every conversation(I didnt do them all yet so im still checking.) and got a point after the second bat conversation. Hope this helps:D

[poohead900]

Guys I've found one!!! Before you take the funmachine to Bubs, talk to strong Sad about the bats twice. I did it and it worked.

He's right, What are we at now, 5 confirmed?

[poohead900]

Awww crappity-crap. I did the Talking to Strong Sad about the Bats twice, and got a point. Then I talked to Strong Sad about the Fun Machine (earlier post) and didn't get any. Quick, fast, and in a hurry I fired up another game to see if it was one or the other, and I didn't get anything for talking to Strong Sad about the Fun Machine.

Something fishy's going on here. We're getting points for doing different things. Somebody else clarify on this one, maybe its miscommunication on our part, or Telltale is craftily making us frustrated by trying to help eachother to no avail.

[Strongsadioware]

Guys, just wait for the Awesomeness guide.

[Xiphias]

Okay, what I figured out is that you are looking for conversations that include the word "love".

So, some of the conversations that trigger it are In the long converstation with Bubs about the Fun Machine and setting up a concert and so forth, Bubs says, about running the contest, "I love side projects. I'm knitting a winter vest with my feet right now."

When you talk to Strong Sad about the Von Blau Blood bats, he says that the bats love the dark and dank in his room.

Many of these "affection" moments are necessary to the plot, such as when Marzipan says that the Cool Tapes would "love" to be in the Battle of the Bands.

In Extended play, Coach Z will say that Bubs "loves" him like a brother -- hates him like a brother, too.

I found a couple others, and I don't remember exact details -- Strong Bad says he just LOVES train wrecks, or something like that, but, with that, you can KNOW what you're looking for, which ought to make life easier.

[poohead900]

Holy cow, that makes sense. Never thought of that, didn't notice it.

And as for:
Guys, just wait for the Awesomeness guide.

What's the fun in that? Having the people that make the game outright tell you what to do without figuring it out takes all the fun away. Well, playing the game through 3 times to try to figure this stuff out also takes the fun away....
I thought I was done with trying to figure it out, but with the "love" statement, It gives me something new to look for.

Now, about those Musical Moments........

[ReverendTed]

Note that Strong Bad's comment about the "Lovable Teen Girl Squad" doesn't make the cut. I was playing through trying to use everything on everyone and everything and I'm up to signing bands and only have two expressions of affection. (Talking to Strong Sad about the Bats and giving Bubs the Funmachine)

[Holyxion]

Awww crappity-crap. I did the Talking to Strong Sad about the Bats twice, and got a point. Then I talked to Strong Sad about the Fun Machine (earlier post) and didn't get any. Quick, fast, and in a hurry I fired up another game to see if it was one or the other, and I didn't get anything for talking to Strong Sad about the Fun Machine.

Something fishy's going on here. We're getting points for doing different things. Somebody else clarify on this one, maybe its miscommunication on our part, or Telltale is craftily making us frustrated by trying to help each other to no avail.

I agree, it's getting really hard to run a list like this when it's impossible to get anyone to agree on what works, what doesn't, and what's a glitch.

[poohead900]

Okay, what I figured out is that you are looking for conversations that include the word "love".


If anything, I'd look into that.
It makes sense, and It happens to happen in the 3-4 confirmed cases that we got so far. This guy happened to figure out somewhat exactly what we're looking for. I'd bet that if we were to look farther into what cases we have outlined so far, we'd crack what exactly constitutes an "affection" and what doesn't, and I'd betcha between those of us on here and people from outside could outline all 10 before Telltale tells us outright.

BotB pissed me off, so I'm playing some Zelda.
Resuming tomorrow......

[Spritz]

Okay, what I figured out is that you are looking for conversations that include the word "love".

That would make sense. It would explain why you get points for having Marzipan sign glossies for Coach Z and Strong Bad. (You don't get the point for giving the glossy to Coach Z like people are assuming.)

Edit: You also don't get a point from looking at the bleached pond.

[splash1]

You also don't get a point from looking at the bleached pond.

Yes you do, I checked and you do.

[Spritz]

Yes you do, I checked and you do.

You sure? I've checked it too and I didn't get a point.

[Holyxion]

BotB pissed me off, so I'm playing some Zelda.
Resuming tomorrow......

Dude, seriously? I'm actually playing Twilight Princess as I type this since I just got past where I was suck for ages which is another reason I haven't managed to properly look into what does and doesn't constitute an Affection Expression.

[poohead900]

Yeah, the old N64 has had Ocarina of Time in it for like 3 months, yesterday I just decided to turn it on. Kinda loses all its fun when you know what to do...

Ironic that we're hustling around the forums trying to figure out what to do in BotB?

[StinkomanFan]

Ya, but since we're on the topic of LoZ i can't seem to get past the hidden forest temple on OoT any ideas?

[poohead900]

PM'd, don't wanna saturate a Strong Bad Forum with Zelda stuff.

[Spritz]

Here's what I've been able to confirm (with a quick runthrough):
1. Talk to Strong Sad about the bats twice
2. Give the fun machine to Bubs
3. Talk to Coach Z about Marzipan twice
4. Have Marzipan sign a glossy for Strong Bad
5. Have Marzipan sign a glossy for Coach Z
6. Have Coach Z recite poetry for Marzipan
7. Talk to Limozeen about the Two-O-Duo
8. Talk to the Blubbo's whale twice at the PomStar concert
9. Talk to Coach Z after the Two-O-Duo break up

[Cyberlink420]

I think the last one might be gotten by talking to one of the Cool Tapes band members after you sabotage them but before the DOI performance. (possibly by asking Limozeen about them after they start sucking as well)

[poohead900]

I think after you sabotage Cool Tapes, its a direct cutscene, I'm checking it out, I have a save game right about at that point

Edit: Yep, although I did sabotage them last.

[ReverendTed]

No luck on the Cool Tapes breakup - either talking to the band, the spectators, Limozeen, Marzipan elsewhere...

I thought I had it, though. During the DOI concert, after the speaker falls and the KoT starts wailing on it trying to get the lobster, Strong Bad says "You'll LOVE my stage prop" and right as he said it my rank went up. However, in Extended Play (since you can't check your stats during the concert) I was still missing one Expression of Affection.

In fact, it's the ONLY thing I'm missing. I've got all the Collectibles, Abuse, Musical Moments, and all but one of the Expressions of Affection.

[splash1]

I think we're all missing #10, lets wait for the Awesomeness list.

[ReverendTed]

It may end up that way, but I'm going to keep looking.

Now, I may have missed something, but I'm pretty sure it isn't in Extended Play, and unless there's some specific criteria during the concert (like, "X and Y bands are sabotaged but Z band is still together, then talk to person G") I don't think it's during the Battle of the Bands Segment. I felt pretty confident that I'd talked to pretty much everyone and used pretty much everything on everything else during the opening act, so my suspicion is that it's during the Battle organization stage of the game.

[Dangerzone]

I am starting to wonder if there is a higher reason for nobody finding the point yet... Like yet another bug?

(Even I have yet to find all 10 in the game itself, and trust me, I find everything. I am the "play it again" dude after all ;) )

I've checked everything in the game, tried every possible inventory combination, went file digging, heard every possible dialog option in the game, and still no 10th point... But, I think I have found the line in the files, and guess what? Its not used in the game.

[Spritz]

Yep, and I am starting to wonder if there is a higher reason for nobody finding the point yet... Like yet another bug?

(Even I have yet to find all 10, and trust me, I find everything. I am the "play it again" dude after all ;) )

Actually, I was thinking the same thing. I'm really surprised that you don't gain any affection points from the "Food-Related Love" song considering how many times love is mentioned.

[Dangerzone]

I have a considerable Play it again list of about 25 items all over the game, and about 12 alternate ways to play the game (the order you solve some puzzles yields different dialog and scenes) but still no 10th affection point...

[ReverendTed]

But, I think I have found the line in the files, and guess what? Its not used in the game.Oooh...do tell!

[Dangerzone]

I would rather wait and confirm that this is a bug before I post the line... It's still possible that I have completely missed something, and that this particular line was deleted on purpose. (I.E. the powers that be may not want it posted publicly)

EDIT: Yes It is a deleted line, but not the awesomeness point we are looking for, I just got a tip from Jake and I am going to confirm it... If it checks out ill post it here (along with whatever goodie comes along with 100% :p)

[ReverendTed]

I would rather wait and confirm that this is a bug before I post the line... It's still possible that I have completely missed something, and that this particular line was deleted on purpose. (I.E. the powers that be may not want it posted publicly)

EDIT: Yes It is a deleted line, but not the awesomeness point we are looking for, I just got a tip from Jake and I am going to confirm it... If it checks out ill post it here (along with whatever goodie comes along with 100% :p)I applaud your discretion in these matters.

Also, I applaud insider sources. I was not really looking forward to listening to all 2074 lines of recorded dialogue. (...even though it's already turning out to be quite entertaining.)

[Gman5852]

You sure? I've checked it too and I didn't get a point.

I got a point to for that.

[ReverendTed]

I got a point to for that.Are you certain? I didn't get a point for looking at the bleached pond. A pretty funny cutscene, yes, but not an Affection Expression point.

[Gman5852]

I think I've got one. I did this and when I checked a had a point,but I may have gotten it from something else. Using the oddition form on strong bad. Like I said this may not work but I had a point after I done this so I hope someone does this and it works.:) I'll keep checking though.

[ReverendTed]

Also worth trying - have Marzipan sign a glossy for someone else and give it to Coach Z. Going to check that out, now.

Edit: Nope. Apparently "True Lorv" doesn't count as "true love".


I think I've got one. I did this and when I checked a had a point,but I may have gotten it from something else. Using the oddition form on strong bad. Like I said this may not work but I had a point after I done this so I hope someone does this and it works.:) I'll keep checking though.If you only had one point, then you got it automatically after giving the Funmachine to Bubs. I'll give it a try anyway.

[Gman5852]

Wait a minute... I for certain got 2 points not on his list. doing the stealing stuff from my own dang store first in the framing coach Z part and making Coach Z throwing the rock in Marzipans house last. How could this be.:confused:

[Dangerzone]

Ok.. confirmed

For expression point #10.. (don't shoot the messenger, I thought this was stupid as well)

After you have sabotaged Pom Star and Two-o-duo, and given both the whale and lake abuse pictures to marzipan... Turn up your hint level to "High" (in options) and click randomly around the Two-o-duo stage until Strong bad mutters the hint "The teen girl squad would love this..."

Frankly, it's kinda disappointing, there was a line in the finale that would have been perfect for #10... (If you try to put the butter in the fog machine while the sand bag is still on it)

Also, There apparently a bug the Hot Babelien Odyssey game... after completeing all other awesomeness tasks, Strong bad will be "Too awesome to die" and get infinite lives! (Although, this does take all the challenge out of it.)

P.S. the Coach Z "loves me like a brother..." Line can be hard at the Pom Star stage *OR* during extended play... if you miss it during the concert (or if you sabotage Two-o-duo last) you can hear it in extended play. Actually, its funnier in Extended play because of Bub's comment after it.

[ReverendTed]

Verrrry crafty. It's perfectly designed so that people who are already "good" at the game are very unlikely to ever find it.

Thanks, DZ!

[Gman5852]

well than what about the 2 ive found they both worked and altogether that's 12There's something wrong hee.

[Dangerzone]

There are only 10... As I have stated above, some can be heard at multiple points, but they only count the first time you hear them.

[poohead900]

That's all she wrote. We got to 100% before Telltale released the guide with, what, 2 days to spare?

Impossibly Rocked Out indeed.

Oh yeah:

Also, There *IS* a cheat for the Hot Babelien Odyssey game... Just complete all other awesomeness tasks, and Strong bad will be "Too awesome to die" and get infinite lives! (Although, this does take all the challenge out of it.)

I wasn't invincible, still had some challenge to it. Even tried after got over 50k, still can die.

[Gman5852]

There are only 10... As I have stated above, some can be heard at multiple points, but they only count the first time you hear them.

What I'm saying is that I have found 2 not on the list. Not that Ive found 2 things heard twice. Which makes 12. I know that there are only 10 but I found 2 more. As stated abvove in one of my posts.

[ReverendTed]

What I'm saying is that I have found 2 not on the list. Not that Ive found 2 things heard twice. Which makes 12. I know that there are only 10 but I found 2 more. As stated abvove in one of my posts.When you say you've found two not on the list - do they actually increment a point on the score sheet, or are they just mentions of the word "love"? Does your score sheet read 12/10?

[Holyxion]

The TTG awesomeness is up now, so I don't know how necessary this thread is, but now we can confirm everything fo sho.

[poohead900]

The TTG awesomeness is up now, so I don't know how necessary this thread is, but now we can confirm everything fo sho.

Yep, we hit it on the head. And why was it so confusing? Because there were things unlockable in both regular and extended play.

We rock.

Edit: Hey check it out! This is the longest thread in the "Strong Bad Hints" section. I wonder how much harder stuff is going to be to find in Dangeresqe 3.....

[Holyxion]

Judging by the current trend I'd say somewhere between 6 and 8 pages to cover it all.

[poohead900]

Think we'll hit double digits for EP5?

[StinkomanFan]

Maybe.... It depends on what you mean by Double Digits.

[poohead900]

10 or so

[StinkomanFan]

No the'll keep it at 4.

[poohead900]

Heh. We got all the expressions, but this one just hit 5.
Fair enough.
Think its time to let it go.
So long, oh thread of Affection.
You will be missed.

Unless of course, somebody writes something else and I decide to reply.

I need a life...

[StinkomanFan]

Oh, I thought you where talking about Manuel pages.

[poohead900]

Haha - Manuel. You really ARE a Stinko Man fan.

[Holyxion]

Took you long enough.

[poohead900]

Yeah, umm. I uh.. (insert any suitable excuse here that you see fit) for the past week, so I woulda gotten that little quip sooner, but I was busy.

[Chords of Steel]

I can't get all ten, the hint won't come up.

[Mouldcube]

I can't get all ten, the hint won't come up.

Put hints up high, then go to the two-o-duo stage and click on the banner until it comes up, I had to click about 10 times before it comes up, and you have to do it after you picked the limozeen colouring book up and before you make the TGS comic.