Too easy?

[Opus132]

I just started this series for the first time. I like it, but so far it seems to be a bit easy. Some of the puzzles in the first episode were somewhat challenging, but other then that it's been a soft ride. Episode three in particular was a breeze. Is this how it's going to be from now on or can i expect more challenge? What about season two? I like the game so far, but i'm worried i may end up finish it really quick.

[Jake]

The games never become brain destructively hard, but the difficulty does noticeably ramp up and up over the course of the series.

[Opus132]

The games never become brain destructively hard, but the difficulty does noticeably ramp up and up over the course of the series.

That's good to know, i was afraid it was actually going to get easier still, particularly considering modern trends in gaming.

[The Burninator]

I think they allow more jokes to be explored though, the actual "story" dialogue is much funnier then if you click on random junk, so they want you to get to the funny quick :)

[Hero1]

There's actually a nice little learning curve over the 2 seasons. By the time you get to the last two episodes of s2 if u are playing with hints off they will
Present a nice and lengthy challenge. Your gonna love the next 8 episodes! The series started to hit it's stride by 104 and then it just gets better and better

[MaxFan]

Seriously, I'd say play Episode 104 before giving this any further thought. It has the moment that sold me on Sam & Max.

[Weeblerjake]

Well, I say it's hard. But that's good. I want to explore all the funny dialogue I can get my hands on.

[Shwoo]

I think the difficulty's just right. Hard enough to be enjoyable, and easy enough that I don't get so frustrated that I start working exclusively from a guide because I want to know what happens next.

[MussKatt]

I like these type of comedy game on the easy side so that the whole experience can go smoothly, still i'd say season 2 was propably a bit more tough.

Still, welcome aboard. These games are gems

[Pantagruel's Friend]

The games never become brain destructively hard, but the difficulty does noticeably ramp up and up over the course of the series.

and, will it not go further in later series (either S&M or W&G)? I'm not dissatisfied or anything, but I could use some more difficult puzzles sometimes :D

[Trica]

Gah, for me the puzzles were insanely hard at first.. but that was probably cause I hadn't played this kind of games in a long while. :) As I got more into the S&M universe, those puzzles became slightly easier for me, too.

But never too easy, that's for sure! :D

[Pantagruel's Friend]

Gah, for me the puzzles were insanely hard at first.. but that was probably cause I hadn't played this kind of games in a long while. :) As I got more into the S&M universe, those puzzles became slightly easier for me, too.

But never too easy, that's for sure! :D

Well, I can speak only for myself - I had quite a simple time with Chariots of the Dogs and What's New Beelzebub. I only stopped at places to laugh my head off - which happened quite often :D

[Trica]

Well, I can speak only for myself - I had quite a simple time with Chariots of the Dogs and What's New Beelzebub. I only stopped at places to laugh my head off - which happened quite often :D

Heheh, well I haven't played Season 2 yet, so I can't comment on that. :D

Season One burned quite a bit of my braincells, though. ;) Especially Reality 2.0.

[Guy in a Box]

Yes, especially with that rainbow paint kit puzzle. I swear, that was the only time so far that I needed to check the walkthrough.

[thanatos56]

I noticed an increase in difficulty in the first season, but I've only played the first game in the second season and it was the easiest yet. It's good to know that the rest will be harder.

[Hero1]

I noticed an increase in difficulty in the first season, but I've only played the first game in the second season and it was the easiest yet. It's good to know that the rest will be harder.

Are you playing season 2 with all hints turned off?

[Pantagruel's Friend]

Yes, especially with that rainbow paint kit puzzle. I swear, that was the only time so far that I needed to check the walkthrough.

It's always funny to see how different things can prove difficult to people. The mentioned puzzle was obvious for me, while in the same episode, I just couldn't figure out how to get into the office when the small size was in effect :)

[Maxilyah]

I got stuck in 102, but after I figured that puzzle out, I figured out that "oh, that's right, I have to think like Sam and Max". It's really not that hard if you think like them, because most of the puzzles only make sense to them.
I've gotten stuck a few times, but usually Max helped me out (if you know what I mean).
Also, in What's New Beelzebub?, I think I broke Max's hint button. I turned on the hints, because the answer to the puzzle wasn't obvious (and I don't even remember what puzzle this was). He told me to go one place, so I went there, and then he told me he was homesick, immediately after I got there...
Personally, I think he was just messing with me.

[thanatos56]

Are you playing season 2 with all hints turned off?

I think I had it set on the lowest hints possible while still having hints on.

Anyway, I kinda want to see Telltale make a puzzle that's unbelievably hard, just for fun. Like the door password puzzle in Monkey Island 2. Just something that makes you think for hours before you get it.

[leon101]

Seeing as I am not that good when playing adventure games, I had a hard time with all the episodes. I like turning hints off completely though.

[Siege777]

Hi, sorry to bring back a dead topic, but I was just thinking along these lines while playing and didn't want to start a new one. Let me start by saying I've only played the first 3 episodes of Season 1 so far (I've heard they get better from there, too) and I love them.

But part of me feels like the games are missing something that the original had and the oldschool point-and-click games had by being so short and self-contained. They just feel kind of easy because it seems you're just going back and forth between Sam&Max's street and one or two episode-specific locations in each game. And there just isn't time for big complicated puzzles, or combining inventory items together. I just remember from the first game there being like 10 locations to run back and forth between and figure out what to do next at.

Don't mean to sound like I'm complaining too much, I love the games so far, just wondering how people felt about this, and whether people really prefer smaller episodic games than one big one that maybe could even be broken into smaller episodes but feel a bit bigger in scope? (Sorry if this has been discussed to death earlier, like when these came out/were first announced; like I said, I just started S1 recently)

[Hero1]

From episode 4 on each episode gets better and better.. In season 2 there is less back and forth and the puzzles are better and require a bit more thought

[Scrawffler]

I agree that the first 3 of season 1 are easy. I completed all three of them within a few days (episode 3 took me about 2 hours to beat) with no hints or anything. Then, I found episode 4 was suddenly more challenging.

It's cool that the first 3 are easy. They help ease you into the series, plus it's better that way round than having, say, the last episode of season 2 being ridiculously easy. (though to be honest I haven't started that episode yet, so I wouldn't know if it's easy or not!)

[RMJ1984]

Hopefully Season 3 of Sam & Max will get the item combine from Monkey Island, that should help to have more items, making it more fun and more challenging puzzles.

[Hero1]

When those first 3 episodes came out initially there was a huge discussion about the difficulty:

http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1232

[youmaycallmemurray]

I completed season 1 yesterday, and I found it to be overall easy. I got stuck 2-3 times, but it wasnt too hard to figure out after a while. Unlike the old game wich was very difficult at times. It's good to hear season 2 is more challenging.

[thatdude98]

I got stuck a couple times, but I thought the season was just right. Not too cold or hot or small or big or jim or larry or bob or steve, but juuuuuust right.

[Banned User]

This thread makes me feel stupid.

I get stuck every once in awhile. Usually its when I overlook a simple item.

[GinnyN]

This thread makes me feel stupid.

I get stuck every once in awhile. Usually its when I overlook a simple item.

Me too. I have been stuck a ton of times in this games. The First Chapter of Monkey Island was the very first telltale game I finished without read the walktrough. And, I think the hint system is there because the Game itself it's not easy for the average!

[Astro Gnocci]

Usually its when I overlook a simple item.

I rule at that.

"Wut??? "Pick Up Panel" ??? I SPENT THREE POOPIN MONTHS LOOKING FOR A DAMN SHOVEL AND THE DAMN THING WAS RIGHT ON THAT PANEL IN THE VERY FIRST SCREEN ?????"

[bobhobbit]

Haha, yeah... I was just looking for pepper in Curse of Monkey Island, and wandered around for like an hour not finding it in plain sight...

[thatdude98]

Yes!

[Banned User]

One thing I think would be cool is if after beating the game you could play it again, but all the puzzles change and its much harder. I'm a huge fan of unlockables. Its like a reward system for me playing games. Can't go wrong with that.

[DreadFyre]

It's always funny to see how different things can prove difficult to people. The mentioned puzzle was obvious for me, while in the same episode, I just couldn't figure out how to get into the office when the small size was in effect :)

I didn't have any trouble with the paint kit or getting into s&m office while small, but I did have trouble figuring out to use the bugs on computers..

I used a hint again on 106 with the spoon holding the bowling ball.

Your right how some things easy to someone may be hard to someone else, and reverse.

[guitarsareboring]

They're certainly nowhere near as difficult as Hit the Road... sometimes that game hurt my head beyond all imagination... but I think the difficulty level now is quite pleasant, rather than too easy.

[Butterscotch-Biros]

101 and 102 had me reaching for a walkthrough because I hadn't touched an adventure game in ages, the difficulty then just got harder and harder (except from 106, as I didn't realise Max was giving me hints to everything in the incorporated hitn system, I thought it was dialogue!)

Then 203 started weaving into seriously illogical thinking, which is when I resorted to hints.

204 was full-blown illogical thinking, so hints again.

205 was completely on 204's level of illogics, I don't know what they've been huffing on, but it's got to stop.

[Shwoo]

Really? I don't remember many illogical puzzles towards the end of season 2. Could you give some examples?

the only one I can think of right now is the hidden passage puzzles in 203, and it makes sense that the hidden passages would be hidden.

[Woodsyblue]

I found the difficulty in Season 2 to be harder overall then Season 1, especially if you man-up and play no hints.

Yes, especially with that rainbow paint kit puzzle. I swear, that was the only time so far that I needed to check the walkthrough.

That puzzle was INSANE! Hours I spent, HOURS!!! That's the only time I've ever had to consult a walkthrough for a point-and-click adventure game in my life. It defied all logic, why would color coordination with license plates help you get through a firewall.:mad: To this day it still makes me angry.

But aside from that one puzzle I thought Season 2 was markedly harder than Season 1, but in a good way. If there is no challenge then there is no reward ;)

[Butterscotch-Biros]

Really? I don't remember many illogical puzzles towards the end of season 2. Could you give some examples?

Using a paper clip chain as a fishing rod, is ridiculous enough...but having to get a minesweeper cartridge that nobody even requested/hinted for - argh!

[Woodsyblue]

Using a paper clip chain as a fishing rod, is ridiculous enough...but having to get a minesweeper cartridge that nobody even requested/hinted for - argh!

I just lucked into that one when I saw the steam coming out of the crack. Though I agree it was extremely obscure. The one I thought was worse in that episode was using Satin's shopping list to replace the list of words that got bleeped. I just didn't understand how that could help anything.

[Shwoo]

It's not obvious, but it's not illogical. Paper clip chains have a hook on the end. It's really unclear if you ahve the sound effects turned off, though. The Mimesweeper music that plays in the main office of Hell is a hint, but the first I played, I couldn't hear it because the sound skipped if I had the sound effects on. Also, I think figuring out that you need a Mimesweeper cartridge is part of the puzzle and not impossible even without the sound effects, but I wish they'd referred to the carts by name more than once.

I also got the Satan's grocery list one pretty easily, but I think I was spoiled to it beforehand. Regardless, Hugh Bliss makes it clear that he only bleeps what's on the list, and you do need to hear under the bleeps to continue.

I don't think those puzzles were illogical. Just hard.

[Butterscotch-Biros]

The one I thought was worse in that episode was using Satin's shopping list to replace the list of words that got bleeped. I just didn't understand how that could help anything.

Oh yeah I forgot that one, that was worse, because 1) You would never think of doing it, because it was so preposterous. And 2) You think Hugh Bliss would notice the list has changed. And 3) Just because it's there, suddenly the original cuss words would be instantaneously unbleeped, because it being in that perticular place on the wall can do that? :confused:

[Shwoo]

No, Hugh Bliss bleeps everything manually, and uses the list as a guide for what to bleep. As to why he didn't notice, maybe he assumed someone else in his department put it there or something?

[Butterscotch-Biros]

No, Hugh Bliss bleeps everything manually
Thanks for telling me, shame the game didn't make it clear.

As to why he didn't notice, maybe he assumed someone else in his department put it there or something?
Why? They're all working on efficency. And I'm sure someone would have notified it to him first about it.

[Woodsyblue]

No, Hugh Bliss bleeps everything manually, and uses the list as a guide for what to bleep. As to why he didn't notice, maybe he assumed someone else in his department put it there or something?

I know, but the idea that he wouldn't notice the words that he had been beeping all this time had changed was just... well... it was hard! :o

[Pantagruel's Friend]

Really? I don't remember many illogical puzzles towards the end of season 2.

Agreed, I simply breezed through the last two episodes - they were hideously funny, but there wasn't anything too difficult to me.


That puzzle was INSANE! Hours I spent, HOURS!!! That's the only time I've ever had to consult a walkthrough for a point-and-click adventure game in my life. It defied all logic, why would color coordination with license plates help you get through a firewall.:mad: To this day it still makes me angry.


IMO, to verify if the vehicle was legit

The one I thought was worse in that episode was using Satin's shopping list to replace the list of words that got bleeped. I just didn't understand how that could help anything.

You had to find out Peepers' real name, which was bleeped when Tommy said it - it was obvious that you needed the name to break the spell on Sybil. I though it was quite logical.

[Butterscotch-Biros]

You had to find out Peepers' real name, which was bleeped when Tommy said it - it was obvious that you needed the name to break the spell on Sybil.

The game never told me to do that, it didn't even tell me during the hints. It just said "we need to uncover its true form, so I used Stinky's baby book, hoping ever so desperately that Peepers was that receipe of the damned thing like Stinky was. :(

[Woodsyblue]

You had to find out Peepers' real name, which was bleeped when Tommy said it - it was obvious that you needed the name to break the spell on Sybil. I though it was quite logical.

The problem for me was I had no idea the things Timmy were saying weren't hardcore, that there wasn't a legit reason not to bleep him. I thought everything he said was bleeped for a reason.

[Pantagruel's Friend]

The game never told me to do that, it didn't even tell me during the hints. It just said "we need to uncover its true form, so I used Stinky's baby book, hoping ever so desperately that Peepers was that receipe of the damned thing like Stinky was. :(

And it was also mentioned that you had to say the name of a demon to uncover its true form. Believe me, I assembled that solution from the clues.

The problem for me was I had no idea the things Timmy were saying weren't hardcore, that there wasn't a legit reason not to bleep him. I thought everything he said was bleeped for a reason.

Ah, but they were! Peeper's name was Dick Peacock, which can be interpreted as three swearwords if someone was trying as hard as Hugh Bliss :D Also, when I first heard Timmy's words bleeped out, I immediately had the idea that the guy's name could be Dick (search me :D ), and I was on the right track from there.

[Randulf]

The more illogical part of this puzzle is Max's not knowing Peeper's real name, despite calling himself a big fan of the Poppers.

[Woodsyblue]

And it was also mentioned that you had to say the name of a demon to uncover its true form. Believe me, I assembled that solution from the clues.



Ah, but they were! Peeper's name was Dick Peacock, which can be interpreted as three swearwords if someone was trying as hard as Hugh Bliss :D Also, when I first heard Timmy's words bleeped out, I immediately had the idea that the guy's name could be Dick (search me :D ), and I was on the right track from there.

Yeah, I probably should have seen it coming. They didn't make it clear why knowing his true name would scare him off though. Also, How is 'pea' a swear word?

[Chuck]

They didn't make it clear why knowing his true name would scare him off though. Also, How is 'pea' a swear word?
Grandpa Stinky tells you to read Stinky's true name to reveal her true form (a cake). Sybil is enchanted with Peepers because she sees his super-sexy version instead of his true form.

And: "pea" isn't a swear word, but "pee" could be.

[guitarsareboring]

I found the difficulty in Season 2 to be harder overall then Season 1, especially if you man-up and play no hints.



That puzzle was INSANE! Hours I spent, HOURS!!! That's the only time I've ever had to consult a walkthrough for a point-and-click adventure game in my life. It defied all logic, why would color coordination with license plates help you get through a firewall.:mad: To this day it still makes me angry.

Wow, I worked that puzzle out almost instantly! I noticed the number plates and thought 'hmm I wonder if those letters correspond with the colours. Oh yes, they do!'

Just finished episode 203... that one was difficult! I would never have noticed the books on the painting had the words necessary to open the bookcase when getting Abe's brain and I struggled with the holy water because I hadn't seen the bowl in the office!. I knew I needed the tar cake but I didn't realise that Jesse James' hand moved when I shot it. Easily the most difficult episode so far and it seems there's even harder to come if what people say is true! Will need a walkthrough handy I think!

[Pantagruel's Friend]

and I struggled with the holy water because I hadn't seen the bowl in the office!.

That one took me a lot of time, too. It's because we've both broken an important adventure gaming rule - pay close attention to every detail :)
Funny thing was, I knew I had to feed Max something as a deterrent, but I was trying to make him eat the garlic clove cigarettes, and for some reason, it didn't work :o