The new Monkey Island logo is green, slightly different font. pls fix

[jp-30]

In this thread, those of us who are thankful and excited and happy make up ridiculous things to complain about.

Look.

The original MI logo. The font is consistent, and the colours are manly. Purple (well, that's slightly gay), Yellow, and 2x Indy Jones fade.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v194/jaepee/original.jpg

Classics.

Now... look at this cool new logo. It's $h!+. It's not exactly the same font, and it's not purple/yellow/Indiana Jones.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v194/jaepee/new.jpg

Even though the new font harkens back to the original, and is more stylish, and the green stands out and is lush like a Tropical Island Palm Tree leaf, Tellatle sucks and I will not buy any of these games until this travesty is fixed.

[xChri5x]

*rips hair out*

STUPID STUPID! Han shoots first!!!

[GuyMontague]

Nail on the head jp-30. That logo is crap.

Now, how about Guybrush! The new model is a horror! Now this is what Guybrush looks like:

http://devanna.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/guybrush_threepwood.gif

Notice that sometimes he's blond, sometimes he's bearded, but never, NEVER has he been both blond and bearded! It just doesn't make sense. Is he a naive waif, or a Mighty Pirate? We can't have it both ways.

[Masquerade]

Sigh. ::begins building gallows::

[xChri5x]

I'm highly offended.

[HoppyDragon]

Are you guys kidding me? Being a hardcore fan of the original two Monkey Island games is one thing, but seriously, I absolutely love the new logo. Stop complaining and be glad that we're getting any Monkey Island at all. And if you'd rather there be none at all because you're not happy with what you've seen, regardless of the fact you haven't personally played it, no one is forcing you to buy the game.

edit: Can I delete my post now? I just realized this a joke topic. Augh. This is what staying up for long hours does to your mind.

[Bagge]

Are you guys kidding me? Being a hardcore fan of the original two Monkey Island games is one thing, but seriously, I absolutely love the new logo. Stop complaining and be glad that we're getting any Monkey Island at all. And if you're rather there be none at all because you're not happy with what you've seen, regardless of the fact you haven't personally played it, no one is forcing you to buy the game.

Check your sarcasm-detector. I think it's broken.

[HoppyDragon]

Check your sarcasm-detector. I think it's broken.
Yeah, I'm aware of that now, thanks. ;)

[Armakuni]

Nail on the head jp-30. That logo is crap.

Now, how about Guybrush! The new model is a horror! Now this is what Guybrush looks like:

http://devanna.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/guybrush_threepwood.gif

Notice that sometimes he's blond, sometimes he's bearded, but never, NEVER has he been both blond and bearded! It just doesn't make sense. Is he a naive waif, or a Mighty Pirate? We can't have it both ways.
The third one looks very out of place, compared to the first two (which look more consistant) :cool:

I don't know that all the complaints that have been voiced here are as silly as this thread wants to make them out to be, though :)

[HoppyDragon]

Jumping on the bandwagon now if I haven't completely killed this topic.

Oh my god, I'm boycotting Telltale and every other company that starts with the letter 'T' if the poodles from the governor's mansion in SOMI aren't in this new game.

[EeK85]

I don't like the design of that monkey. It looks shopped. I can tell from some of the pixels and from seeing quite a few shops in my time.

[Shmeh]

I hate how TTG let people complain on their forums. They should totally ban any account that says anything that isn't glowingly positive. It would make this place so much more fun and happy. Negative comments only dampen the mood and make people sad. This place should be a utopia. TTG are really slack by not takin....

*This account has been deleted*

[S@bre]

Sarcasm and mockery aside, the same logo design is on LucasArts' SoMI special edition, albeit back in that orange/yellow. Guess they figured "Its been nine years since the last game. How about a slight redesign of franchise logo?"

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2d/MonkeyIslandSpecial.png

[Armakuni]

I'm not so sure about the redesign of Guybrush in that picture, though... :eek::eek:

I like the original box a lot better -

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/laffer/miorig.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2d/MonkeyIslandSpecial.png

[Junaid]

Redesign of the logo is cool
Redesign of Guybrush is not so cool
I blame expirimental drugs

[splash1]

Um why is everyone complaining? Guybrush looks better then ever, and the new logo kicks @$$, as far as I can see. Course this is coming from the guy who failed to get his copy of Monkey Island to work, so I've never played the original games. So I guess this is coming from the hardcore fans, I understand your disbelief, just like how others were mad at how they changed the original Sam & Max actors. I do know you'll adjust to everything of the new Monkey Island games, just like how some people adjusted to the new Sam & Max.

[Armakuni]

You really think Guybrush is looking better, though?

http://cache-foo.kotaku.com/gawker/assets/images/9/2009/06/504x_Guybrush_and_Elaine_Never_pay__20-Fireworks-_classsic.JPG http://cache-foo.kotaku.com/gawker/assets/images/9/2009/06/504x_Guybrush_and_Elaine_Fireworks_SE.JPG

[MusicallyInspired]

Guybrush looks fine. Yes it's different. Everybody went through this with CMI, though. And now it's more or less accepted. Give it time.

[backslash]

It looks like Guybrush has a crudely drawn blonde seagull on top of his head, its very distracting :(

[Armakuni]

Guybrush looks fine. Yes it's different. Everybody went through this with CMI, though. And now it's more or less accepted. Give it time.
I still haven't accepted it!! :eek::eek:

But yeah... I think Guybrush is pretty damn ugly in this version. That said, I still think it looks like a great version... just not the closeups. But that's not a big issue.

[Eduardo]

Is this the thread where I should demand the game be released in floppies?

[MusicallyInspired]

I like it. If you don't, don't buy it and keep playing the original. Or play it in classic mode if you do buy it. What does it matter?

[Armakuni]

I don't like quoting myself, but -
That said, I still think it looks like a great version... just not the closeups. But that's not a big issue.

So why would you advise me to not buy the game if I don't like the closeups? I already said it was not a big deal to me.

[MusicallyInspired]

You said you haven't accepted it and that Guybrush looks pretty ugly. I didn't realize that means it wasn't a big deal. My mistake.

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[Armakuni]

You said you haven't accepted it and that Guybrush looks pretty ugly. I didn't realize that means it wasn't a big deal. My mistake.

That said, I still think it looks like a great version... just not the closeups. But that's not a big issue.
The bold text part means it's not a big issue ;)

What I said was - he IS ugly, but it's not a big deal for me. It's mostly just noticable in the closeups anyway.

The 'I still haven't accepted it' was about the change in CMI, I was just joking.

[splash1]

You really think Guybrush is looking better, though?

I meant the Telltale version of him, the new re-mastered original version of him, sucks!

[Armakuni]

Oh I see! I agree the Telltale version is looking pretty nice.

[splash1]

Oh I see! I agree the Telltale version is looking pretty nice.

Yeah, I quite like it cause he looks older and more cooler at the same time.

[Gary]

Is this the thread where I should demand the game be released in floppies?

If you ship me a wheelbarrow of floppies for each episode, I'll copy them to floppies for you!*

If you pre-order the entire season, DavidE will even tie the wheelbarrows together with a jump-rope!

*No, I won't actually do that for you. Sorry.

[Armakuni]

Actually, the Wii version (40 megs, right?) would fit on around 30 floppies :p
That's just about twice as much as the biggest floppy game I can remember :D

[taumel]

I like the new one. Actually i never liked the gradient ones.

[Armakuni]

Yeah, the new logo isn't bad at all :p

[turingmachine604]

I like it, and it's not like it's a total departure from the previous fonts. It's clearly inspired.

[Eduardo]

If you ship me a wheelbarrow of floppies for each episode, I'll copy them to floppies for you!*

If you pre-order the entire season, DavidE will even tie the wheelbarrows together with a jump-rope!

*No, I won't actually do that for you. Sorry.

FOILED!

"Please pretty please with sugar on top?”

;)

[kblood]

I am guessing it has to do with the theme of the game. Lechuch is usually becomming more and more demonic each game. Starts out as a zombie, and each death just makes him more powerfull. Seeing the titles of the chapters and reading what the game is about, it seems that the color might very well be related to what is going on in the game. Greenish like disease/plague something.

I like to see him having a beard again, and also like reading that they kept true to the voodoo ladies 5 game deal.

And the remake of the first one :) Adventure games these days has suddenly exploded. Simon the Sorcerer 4, Gobliiins 4, Monkey Island (5 sort of), Broken Sword 4 (okay a bit old now, but still helped keeping a almost dead genre alive) and some completely new ones like Ceville. Even a remake of Broken Sword 1 for Wii :)

Quality of games still seemed better back in those days. For some reason 2d just seemed to fit better and they could focus more on music and sound effects and other nice details. I guess I just have gotten addicted to pixelation of everything, and having to imagine what it really was, whenever the mouseover didnt have any explanation.

[Eduardo]

Simon the Sorcerer 5, actually. The English version should be released some time this year.

[Joe Newberry]

Ah, sarcasm, the confusion you cause.

I know it's meant to point out the silliness of nitpicking a game we'd have killed to see made, but it also illustrates how we could be arguing about things far less fundamental to the game than the controls used to play it. :)

[Armakuni]

Yeah, controls are incredibly important gameplay-wise, I don't think it's silly to complain about that. I guess what some people are getting at is the way some people complain about it, not the fact that they are complaining. At least I hope so.

[Chris1]

Simon the Sorcerer 5, actually. The English version should be released some time this year.

Did you actually try playing Simon 4?

It was utterly awful, you could tell that the new developers had completely no understanding of the characters, and no idea about why the original games were so good.

It would be as if someone who had never heard of Monty Python was given a couple of pictures from the show, and then asked to write a new series.

[GuyMontague]

... but it also illustrates how we could be arguing about things far less fundamental to the game than the controls used to play it. :)

Point.

[doom saber]

l cannot understand the Special remake team choosin the final Guybrush design since as other people have mentioned, the hair is very distactin, whereas it makes his forehead looks big.

I can live with it though since the good thing with mi games is that the guybrush''s design changes in each game. I am happy that TT did their own ver and not usin the se design

[kblood]

Did you actually try playing Simon 4?

It was utterly awful, you could tell that the new developers had completely no understanding of the characters, and no idea about why the original games were so good.

It would be as if someone who had never heard of Monty Python was given a couple of pictures from the show, and then asked to write a new series.

At least Simon 4 was better than Simon 3d. Now that was a game where they should have just sticked with 2D. When making 3D they should still just stick with point and click, since it really makes it annoying to have to actually walk around like its some arcade game.

Also they have mixed in feary tales in Simon 4 and have its funny moments. I havent completed it yet, but sure am planning to.

I kind of hope that the controls in Monkey 5ish will have the push, talk, pull, use etc. controls, but will probably be their usuall mouth, eyes, use controls again. They are okay I guess.

They character design in the remake seems a mix of Monkey 3 and Monkey 2. Seems okay, In monkey 3 he also had a large forehead.

[Jenny]

Well, since we can switch back and forth in the special edition, I will be switching back to the original for close up scenes. I like seeing Elaine and Guybrush as dashing, not goofy.

[VagrantWulf]

In monkey 3 he also had a large forehead.

You know, in the box art for both the Secret of Monkey Island and Lechuck's Revenge, he also had a large forehead, this is also true for the in game stills in the original Secret of Monkey Island. However, in the Curse of Monkey Island and Escape from Monkey Island, Guybrush didn't have a big forehead but he did have very big hair.

Secret of Monkey Island box art. (http://www.miwiki.net/images/thumb/BoxartMI1-front.jpg/250px-BoxartMI1-front.jpg)
Lechuck's Revenge box art. (http://ui20.gamespot.com/1875/mi2boxart_2.jpg)
Secret of Monkey Island in-game still. (http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/1271/849472-guybrush_and_elaine_super.jpg)
Curse of Monkey Island in-game shot. (http://www.forceforgood.co.uk/screenshots/curse2.jpg)
Escape from Monkey Island in-game shot. (http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/4938/212821-mi7_super.jpg)

So as you can see, to give Guybrush a large forehead is true to MI 1 and MI 2, but not so much to CMI or EMI. So this is something that both Telltale and even the Secret of Monkey Island remake got right, but Telltale fortunately disposed with the huge hair and gave him a hairstyle similar to the MI 2 box art, but the SoMI remake had the large forehead and the huge hair, which looks a little weird.

[Sven Viking]

Redesign of the logo is cool
Redesign of Guybrush is not so cool
I blame expirimental drugs
+1.

Some of the other character designs look fine to me, but not sure of what they were thinking with Guybrush. The MI3 version may have looked silly, but this one looks creepy, which is definitely not suitable for Guybrush.

(Note that we're referring to the SoMI Special Edition Guybrush, not the 3D Telltale version).

[kblood]

You know, in the box art for both the Secret of Monkey Island and Lechuck's Revenge, he also had a large forehead, this is also true for the in game stills in the original Secret of Monkey Island. However, in the Curse of Monkey Island and Escape from Monkey Island, Guybrush didn't have a big forehead but he did have very big hair.

Secret of Monkey Island box art. (http://www.miwiki.net/images/thumb/BoxartMI1-front.jpg/250px-BoxartMI1-front.jpg)
Lechuck's Revenge box art. (http://ui20.gamespot.com/1875/mi2boxart_2.jpg)
Secret of Monkey Island in-game still. (http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/1271/849472-guybrush_and_elaine_super.jpg)
Curse of Monkey Island in-game shot. (http://www.forceforgood.co.uk/screenshots/curse2.jpg)
Escape from Monkey Island in-game shot. (http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/4938/212821-mi7_super.jpg)

So as you can see, to give Guybrush a large forehead is true to MI 1 and MI 2, but not so much to CMI or EMI. So this is something that both Telltale and even the Secret of Monkey Island remake got right, but Telltale fortunately disposed with the huge hair and gave him a hairstyle similar to the MI 2 box art, but the SoMI remake had the large forehead and the huge hair, which looks a little weird.

Oh yeah, I just remembered his head as being slim but high. It does make him look a bit wierd with both high hair and high forehead in the remake.

First thing I will try out in the remake is drowning him :D

[Armakuni]

Actually, I think I might like to have the original character graphics and closeups, while keeping the updated backgrounds.

Yeah, it would look very strange and out of place, but I might actually like that better.

Anyway... it will be awesome to try it out, and I'm very (!) happy there are new Monkey Island games coming out! Just thought I'd say that since I've been doing a fair bit of complaining (I think they're legitimate complaints but still.. they could leave the wrong impression... I'm only complaining since I'm so excited about these games and I'd like them to be as close to perfect as possible).

[WedgeWalker]

With the SE remake of 1...am I the only one who get's a slight "Fantastic Planet" vibe from Guybrush?

Still excited about the remake though.

[Irishmile]

I see where you are getting the Fantastic Planet vibe... its the stiff flash animation style movements...

In the MI SE Guybrush looks really emaciated.. I know he is really thin in Curse but in the SE he looks sick.... Maybe they are trying to get all historically accurate and gave him Scurvy... someone better tell him to start eating those citrus fruits

BTW I think the font looks fine..

[LuigiHann]

With the SE remake of 1...am I the only one who get's a slight "Fantastic Planet" vibe from Guybrush?

I get a "Saved by the Bell" vibe from SE Guybrush

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[Eduardo]

Did you actually try playing Simon 4?

It was utterly awful, you could tell that the new developers had completely no understanding of the characters, and no idea about why the original games were so good.

It would be as if someone who had never heard of Monty Python was given a couple of pictures from the show, and then asked to write a new series.

Yes I did, and it felt really flat. The English dubbing didn't really help too much.

There was a lot of humour missing in that game, and from what I heard, Simon 5 is along those lines.

And I miss Sordid. ;)

At least Simon 4 was better than Simon 3d. Now that was a game where they should have just sticked with 2D. When making 3D they should still just stick with point and click, since it really makes it annoying to have to actually walk around like its some arcade game.

I will have to disagree with 4 being better than 3D. Yes, the controls are horrible, and the game doesn't look nice, and you end up hitting half the background when running, but plot and joke wise it is miles above Simon 4.

[Irishmile]

LOL yeah he has a Frankenstein head just like this guy
http://www.thecinemasource.com/moviesdb/images/James_Van_Der_Beek%20-%202%20-%20Rules_Of_Attraction.jpg

[Sheepbrush]

You really think Guybrush is looking better, though?

http://cache-foo.kotaku.com/gawker/assets/images/9/2009/06/504x_Guybrush_and_Elaine_Never_pay__20-Fireworks-_classsic.JPG http://cache-foo.kotaku.com/gawker/assets/images/9/2009/06/504x_Guybrush_and_Elaine_Fireworks_SE.JPG

Why do Elaine have Guybrush haircut?

[WedgeWalker]

This new style has going for it, at least in my book, the fact that it has a more overt style to it. Not knocking the original artwork. But it was going for more of a realistic style. This, on the other hand, is going for a more stylized look.

[Udvarnoky]

Actually, I think I might like to have the original character graphics and closeups, while keeping the updated backgrounds.

Yeah, it would look very strange and out of place, but I might actually like that better.

The VGA close-ups looked out of place in the original game too - despite being gorgeous, their realism didn't mesh with the rest of the art, which was more stylized. Ron Gilbert made this observation in a recent blog post. (In the original EGA versions the close-ups looked nothing like that.) The truth is the MI games were never supposed to look "realistic," and at least in the updated version the style is consistent between the close-ups and the rest of the game.

Obviously, as a nostalgic die-hard I greatly prefer the old version, but I think LEC did a decent job overall on the update.

[Ribs]

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I would expect better...

[kblood]

Yes I did, and it felt really flat. The English dubbing didn't really help too much.

There was a lot of humour missing in that game, and from what I heard, Simon 5 is along those lines.

And I miss Sordid. ;)



I will have to disagree with 4 being better than 3D. Yes, the controls are horrible, and the game doesn't look nice, and you end up hitting half the background when running, but plot and joke wise it is miles above Simon 4.

I miss Sordid as well. I guess he was in the 3D. The controls just ticked me off completely. I remember running around in some fields with scarecrows and stuff. I guess I had just gotten out of the first two places or something.

I liked Simon 1 and 2. Supreme graphics, and nice controls. Simon 3D really ruined that so it ticked me off to much to go through the game. I admit the 4th game could be better, but at least I find it playable. Also the kinds of controls in Simon 3D is also the reason I only did Monkey 4 once.

[LukeSW]

I always admire the way that forum members can be relied upon to become fixated on insignificant details. The internet: digital melodrama.

[Tim]

I always admire the way that forum members can be relied upon to become fixated on insignificant details. The internet: digital melodrama.

Hop on the bandwagon Luke!

Personally I do not really dig Guybrush's hair, although I am perfectly fine with the way LEC managed to update the game art-wise.

I am completely happy with the new ToMI style. Having looked at the gameplay movie & a few stills, I do hope the environments will not feel a bit too empty. What I specifically liked in MI2 & CoMI, were the detail-filled environments. In this particular aspect ToMI still feels a bit 'empty' & sterile. Hope I am mistaken and the vibe will be perfectly existing in the final build though. The logo.. geez. It's green. It's Monkey Island style. It has a nice paperistic banner with a pre-title on it. Looks grand, don't touch it.

Everyone buying both versions might just ensure us a bunch-load of more adventure games from one or both of the companies. I can't wait ^.^

[Shwoo]

Getting back to the original topic, as I said before, the captain guy in Tales of Monkey Island sounds a bit like Bosco from Sam & max when he's pretending to be British. That means that he is Bosco. That means that Sam & Max are real in the universe of Monkey Island. However, in Monkey Island 2, there is a costume shop with Sam & Max costume, and Guybrush says something about wanting to buy a comic by Steve Purcell. This means that Sam & Max are fictional in the universe of Monkey Island.

Please resolve this issue before both universes collapse under the paradox, or I will pirate the game, even though I hate torrents, can easily afford the game, and have already paid for it. I'm just that disappointed.

[smashing]

Why do Elaine have Guybrush haircut?

Err... they went to the same barber?

[Sheepbrush]

Err... they went to the same barber?

Touché. :p

[KB57]

It looks like Guybrush has a crudely drawn blonde seagull on top of his head, its very distracting :(

If anyone would wear a crudely drawn blond seagull on top of his head, it would be Guybrush.