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DKreinest11
06/24/2009, 11:38 am
Am I the only one who thinks that each installment of MI is better than its predecessor?

plrichard
06/24/2009, 11:43 am
I suggest you run...

I for one loved EMI, but still wouldn't say it's the best. The others won't be as understanding as I am...

Mataku
06/24/2009, 11:55 am
*sets up shop*

"torches. gett'em while they're hot. becuase if they're not... well, then they're just sticks!"

Leak
06/24/2009, 12:25 pm
*sets up shop*

"torches. gett'em while they're hot. becuase if they're not... well, then they're just sticks!"
Just a pitchfork for me, thanks.

Can't have an angry mob without pitchforks, you see...

np: Aesop Rock - Babies With Guns (Bazooka Tooth (Headphone Science Version))

LuigiHann
06/24/2009, 12:29 pm
Yeah, I think EMI was a fine game, but you won't find many who think it's the best. I like them all a lot and would have trouble ranking them, but for me EMI does sit a couple notches lower than the others on the overall charm scale.

hangedman1984
06/24/2009, 04:28 pm
Just a pitchfork for me, thanks.

Can't have an angry mob without pitchforks, you see...

np: Aesop Rock - Babies With Guns (Bazooka Tooth (Headphone Science Version))

Can I have a flaming pitchfork? Best of both worlds.

Jexxer
06/24/2009, 04:42 pm
(*pulls out a bat with nails in it*)

PariahKing
06/24/2009, 04:46 pm
True story: Me playing EFMI in the background got my FPS playing, RPG loving roommate into adventure games. It was kind of his gateway drug into Sam and Max 104 which made him a total addict. He now plans to buy nearly all of Telltale's downloadable catalog.

This is experience - after reflection - has improved my opinion of the game. Which was positive anyway until I hopped into the "haterade" bandwagon years later, so I've flip flopped yet again.

Irishmile
06/24/2009, 04:51 pm
I'm ok with people liking EFMI the best... I disagree but I am happy there is love for it..

Seems to me you can pretty much guess what games people like the most by their age..... people around age 30 seem to like 1 or 2, People around age 20 seem to like 3... and people who are strange like 4. Just kidding about the strange bit... sort of :D

Alpha111
06/24/2009, 05:14 pm
the only problem I have with EFMI is that in the first and second halves of the game, its the same theme (you go around a village full of shops), and it gets really long and tiring. I couldnt play it all in one day, it gave me a headache.

and especially monkey kombat :eek: that was the worst part.

Jexxer
06/24/2009, 05:41 pm
Oh, I don't hate it, I just don't think it's the best in the series.

That, and angry mobs are fun.

Unless you're the target of one. That's not fun at all.

Everlast
06/24/2009, 07:07 pm
BURNNNNN BABY BURN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EFMI was the worst; Jokes where flat, puzzle where overly complex specially the clock thingy, Monk... Kom (i still am receiving therapy over that) and it lacke the piratey atmosphere.

yummysoap
06/24/2009, 08:00 pm
Am I the only one who thinks that each installment of MI is better than its predecessor?
Yes.

PimPamPet
06/24/2009, 10:36 pm
I personally think it's the worst of the series. But hey, to each his own. Glad you enjoy it.

Threepwood4Life
06/24/2009, 11:37 pm
It was ok, not the best but was good in parts but to me I will always class MI 2 as the best.

Chase13
06/25/2009, 12:26 am
If it isn't point-and-click, it isn't monkey island...i'm hoping telltales stab at 3D is nothing like EFMI (which it isn't since its in a complete 3D evironment unlike EFMI). But just knowing I get to hear some new voice overs of my favorite pirate was enough for me to pre-order.

HeyArnold
06/25/2009, 12:27 am
BURNNNNN BABY BURN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EFMI was the worst; Jokes where flat, puzzle where overly complex specially the clock thingy, Monk... Kom (i still am receiving therapy over that) and it lacke the piratey atmosphere.

Hehe, i never got out of the swamp, that reminds me, never use that darn abo of nature in a swamp.:rolleyes:

onlyamonkey
06/25/2009, 01:33 am
Is this where we queue up for pitchforks and torches?

Guydutch Smokeweed
06/25/2009, 01:40 am
We could make him walk the plank... have some good ol' piratey fun with him. ;)

der_ketzer
06/25/2009, 05:05 am
Am I the only one who thinks that each installment of MI is better than its predecessor?

You most certainly are.

XuGator
06/25/2009, 05:20 am
If it wasnt for the crappy controls and monkey combat, I think many people would agree.

der_ketzer
06/25/2009, 05:25 am
If it wasnt for the crappy controls and monkey combat, I think many people would agree.

Even then it would be the worst in the series.

doodo!
06/25/2009, 07:01 am
Well based on polls I highly doubt you are the only one with that opinion, that is up until the fourth game. Most people don't rate the first game as the best here and half of the people here think the third was the best and half of them seem to think that the second was the best. So if you think about that it means atleast half the people who can judge their favorite of the series (Meaning they played them all) feel that Monkey island two ranks below three and given other polls Monkey Island one has never been champion in the big numbers. To be honest I always loved Monkey Island EMI and I still do . There are probabaly a hand full of people here who feel the exact same way as you but they are afraid to answer up . I have seen them on polls .

Wolfstar27
06/25/2009, 07:14 am
I'm ok with people liking EFMI the best... I disagree but I am happy there is love for it..

Seems to me you can pretty much guess what games people like the most by their age..... people around age 30 seem to like 1 or 2, People around age 20 seem to like 3... and people who are strange like 4. Just kidding about the strange bit... sort of :D

im Actually 24, and i love Monkey Island 2: lechucks revenge, that 1st one i played and thats my favourite out of the series, to be honest(and i dont think some people with agree with me) but i wasnt too keen seeing Guybrush really tall and lanky in CMI, i perfer Guybrush the height he was in MI2:LR and his look aswell

too be honest i havent finished EMI,ive got both copies one on PC and other on PS2, i played on the PC one and then my computer didnt have enough memory etc, so when i played EMI on PS2 (now on both PC and PS2 i reached to Monkey Kombat) after finally finishing Monkey Kombat, i saved my game, and when i had to find a item to chuck at herman, it wasnt there, i found out it was a cliche on the game, so i would of had to start right at the beginning again, so never played it after, i might just install again on the PC

now with TOMI coming next month, i thought id play a few telltale demos, but i keep getting an error "Direct 3D required" and i have the lastest Direct X installed,i want to hopefully get it fixed before TOMI comes out

Jexxer
06/25/2009, 07:25 am
Hehe, i never got out of the swamp, that reminds me, never use that darn abo of nature in a swamp.:rolleyes:

Ooh, what happens when you do that?

HeyArnold
06/27/2009, 07:23 am
Ooh, what happens when you do that?


You will not get out of the swamp:rolleyes:

thanatos56
06/27/2009, 08:35 am
BURNNNNN BABY BURN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EFMI was the worst; Jokes where flat, puzzle where overly complex specially the clock thingy, Monk... Kom (i still am receiving therapy over that) and it lacke the piratey atmosphere.

I agree, it is the worst game in the series, but the worst game in one of the best series of all time is still pretty good.

Sir Tobbii
06/27/2009, 02:43 pm
Monkey4 was IMO not the best, the best was Monkey2 THEN Monkey4. But then again, I'm pretty much the only one who liked Monkey4's controls, thinks that Monkey1SE's art direction is good, didn't find Monkey3 that amazing compared to the others and is all for the new TT controls.

... Should I run from the mob too?

Mataku
06/27/2009, 02:54 pm
... Should I run from the mob too?

yhea, right into the asylum.

Sir Tobbii
06/27/2009, 03:01 pm
The Asylum? Been there, it was unpleasant.

pilouuuu
06/27/2009, 04:59 pm
For me the best is Le Chuck's Revenge. I consider TSOMI an almost perfect game. It has a magical element which makes all pieces fit together so well. The story, the graphics, the characters...

But, MI2 LCR is like the first one, but with amazing hand painted graphics, one of the best soundtracks of any video game ever, and even more crazy antics and characters. It may not be as perfect as the first, but I consider it a better game. Strange and contradictory? Yes, maybe.

COMI is an amazing game. Brilliant art direction and technically amazing. It feels quite different from the first two, but a great game.

EFMI is a very good game indeed, but it feels like a self-parody and a remake of pieces of TSOMI which don't work as well as the first one. The 3d transition wasn't really necessary or vey well made. It's a good game, but there's no doubt it's the weakest of all.

I'm pretty sure TOMI will be in some spot in the top three.

Everlast
06/27/2009, 06:02 pm
I pretty much agree with all of you, except the ones tht rate EFMI in the top 3. For me the 1st three games where top quality and are pretty close to consider which is arguably the best.

If you think about SOMI, Lucas Arts outdid themselves with the graphics, soundtracks and the story was just awesome cuzz you couldnt wait to be a pirate, until then comes lechuck and you are on a boat. SOMI i put it in 3 but it deserves 5 stars. The graphics, soundtracks where just too good in quality, at the time when they made it.

When MI2LR came they made an even longer game, better jokes, good puzzles, still delivered graphics at the same lv of MI1. But the story brought it another level, cuzz they milked Big Whoop into something mythical. The ending is the only negative point, but the storyline was too good it just outweights the bad. Th whole return of Elaine, Lechuck was awesome too. i rank this game 2/4 and with 4.9 stars!

TCMI was even better than the 1st two, and it made me admire the team who builded this series. The 1st 2 game where so good, that you would wonder, how will the top the feat. Graphics where a BIG IMPROVEMENT, storyline was soo good, soundtrack great, great pirate atmosphere, the boat battles where something that took it another level from the 1st 2 and made a huge difference. It made you feel like a real pirate. This game for me was the best of all the 4 games released, and it deserves 5 stars.

But when EFMI comes it was bad, a whole complete nightmare and they dropped the ball big time. Graphics where AWESOME, but the rest was so bad you couldnt stand it. Puzzles where so complex it created me aversion to the game, the whole thing about looking for the prothesis was a nightmare, the clock even worst and Monkey Island was just bad, REALLY bad especially monkey kombat. The storyline was so stupid and it lacked the pirate things it needed. Murray was the only positive point, but the game made me feel like i was playing a childrens game with the silly flat jokes. i rank this game by far the worst. and i give em 1.5 Stars.

So EFMI was by far the worst and by a long time! it aint in the same league.

Ash735
06/27/2009, 06:26 pm
To be honest, I started replaying Escape a few days ago and have gave up now! :p I shot through all of it and got upto the point where the only thing left to do was Learn Monkey Kombat so I can activate the, *sigh* Giant Monkey Robot but I just really can't be bothered with that whole Monkey Kombat thing again.

tredlow
06/28/2009, 08:21 am
It's not completely and utterly horrifying, but it's not the best in the series.

Some jokes I find entertaining.

coolsome
06/28/2009, 10:33 am
We could make him walk the plank... have some good ol' piratey fun with him. ;)

whats that sir vandals!? I guess we have tar and feather him

Tea
06/28/2009, 12:39 pm
EFMI is a great game! It's just not a Monkey Island game.

pilouuuu
06/28/2009, 05:14 pm
Mmm, If I had to rate the games it would be...

Monkey Island 2 - 9.5 it has the same score as TSOMI, but it's first because it's bigger and better.

TSOMI - 9.5 - This is simply amazing, but technically not as good as the follow up and is it just me or the boat to MI Chapter was a bit slow and boring?

COMI - 9.0 - The graphics can hardly be better! The sound is also amazing, but iMuse utilization is not as good as MI2

EFMI - 8.0 - It's the weakest, but a good game. I even liked the time travelling puzzle and even didn't find Monkey Kombat sooo terrible. I liked the graphics a lot during its time, but I don't think they would be very good if I replay it now.

It's not in the same league as the others or most other Lucasarts classic adventures, but still pretty good.

Austin P
07/01/2009, 10:06 am
I want to love Escape. I want to at least find enough good things about it that I can at least call it an acceptable Monkey Island game. But I can't. It's just bad.

Though it seems most of the board disagrees, I'm one who thinks that Curse of MI's graphics were the best for the series. It was pretty and unique. They would've been better sticking with that. The backgrounds look good, but the characters look terrible. During close ups, they literally look like wooden figures with their features painted on. The control scheme is horrible too.

The writing was also bad. Most of the jokes do fall flat, and Guybrush and Elaine's characterisations were one of the biggest problems for me. Guybrush had lost much of his charm and wit, that made us root for him despite his akwardness. Despite the problems their relationship encountered, in previous games I really felt like Elaine loved Guybrush, but in Escape she mostly treats him as someone she just has to put up with. Part of this is probably due to the change in voice actors but also to do with the script.

Most of the new characters weren't memorable, and while the basis of the plot had potential, it ultimately became too much. The series has always had a charming number of anachronisms, but in Escape, everything became too modernized and it took me out of the setting. And then we have the continuity errors. I apperciate what they were trying to do, but it was just too much of a screwup. I apperciate what they were trying to do, but Herman ultimately works better as a crazy hermit, not a legendary sailor. The game also takes the view that Guybrush shunk his ship in the first game, which makes sense if you want to bring back his original crew, but it doesn't explain how Hermit got back on Monkey Island, and Revenge doesn't address it either. I also hate Monkey Combat, and how you need to learn every combo, instead of just a handful. And after all that work, you can't even beat Lechuck in a fair fight. I like how they foreshadowed it during regular MC, but it wasn't satisfying.

All that said, there were some funny lines in the game, particularly on Jambalaya, and I liked the concept of the Ultimate Insult.

KB57
07/01/2009, 10:41 am
I'm playing through it now, just to bring myself up to speed. Forgotten that there were other things I detested more than Monkey Kombat. If I had to hear Deadeye Dave snrfing back phlegm one more time I would have shot myself... and why couldn't I ditch those useless prosthetic organs, instead of having to whirr past them looking for things I needed later?

And don't even get me started on the Mists o' Time. Miserable.

Austin P
07/01/2009, 10:44 am
You don't HAVE to get the other organs. The sewer cover has the correct names listed on it if you examine it. Not only that, but you can combine the nonessential organs, so that it's only one item instead of many.

KB57
07/01/2009, 10:55 am
You don't HAVE to get the other organs. The sewer cover has the correct names listed on it if you examine it. Not only that, but you can combine the nonessential organs, so that it's only one item instead of many.

I know that now, but I never remember during gameplay because I tend not to replay it for six or seven years at a time. So I go through endless iterations of that stupid story collecting things I don't need. Grrrrrr.

Vainamoinen
07/01/2009, 12:14 pm
it lacke the piratey atmosphere.

Totally! Amusement parks, tiki bars and robots, that's what the game was about! I was so disappointed. Also, the German translation was exceptionally bad.

ultima_keyblader
07/04/2009, 09:12 am
EFMI is the Dragonball GT of Monkey Island its hated because its inferior but its hated way too much IMO. and yes monkey kombat was awful except on the ps2 where it had a menu that rememberd all the different combos for you (why wasnt that in the pc one)?

relapse808
07/04/2009, 10:05 pm
EMI I thought was the worst. My order being :

Monkey 2
Monkey 1
Monkey 3
Monkey 4

Juicius Maximus
07/04/2009, 11:04 pm
it lacke the piratey atmosphere.

Totally! Amusement parks, tiki bars and robots, that's what the game was about! I was so disappointed. Also, the German translation was exceptionally bad.

Yes, EMI do indeed lacke the piratey atmosphere. But it always seemed intentional on the part of the designers. EMI depicts a world where the pirate way has been co-opted by suburban consumerism, something the series always hinted at (with the "tm"s and stuff). It's central theme was "it's just not that fun to be a pirate anymore." It was a compelling idea, but about as fun to play as it sounds. The game felt phoned in, the characteristic LA polish wasn't there, it just felt like their hearts weren't in it. I have a sneaking suspicion the suits forced EMI out the door on a very tight budget and timeline, effectively hammering the last nail in the coffin of their adventure wing (and I think they did all that on purpose). To me, the whole corporate culture plot element of EMI always smacked of resentment on the part of the designers, who very well may have had to shelve original IP's in development to work on yet another sequel (which turned out to be the last adventure game LA published, leaving those theoretically cancelled projects to die).

In sum, I think EMI is sort of indicative of all the upheaval (firings, walkouts, the dwindling adventure market forcing a new corporate strategy) going on internally at the time, and turned out to be something like a massive tax writeoff for LALLLC. It probably left a lot of talented artists thinking, "it's just not that fun to be an adventure game designer anymore."

LukeSW
07/05/2009, 01:37 am
Yes, EMI do indeed lacke the piratey atmosphere. But it always seemed intentional on the part of the designers. EMI depicts a world where the pirate way has been co-opted by suburban consumerism, something the series always hinted at (with the "tm"s and stuff). It's central theme was "it's just not that fun to be a pirate anymore." It was a compelling idea, but about as fun to play as it sounds. The game felt phoned in, the characteristic LA polish wasn't there, it just felt like their hearts weren't in it. I have a sneaking suspicion the suits forced EMI out the door on a very tight budget and timeline, effectively hammering the last nail in the coffin of their adventure wing (and I think they did all that on purpose). To me, the whole corporate culture plot element of EMI always smacked of resentment on the part of the designers, who very well may have had to shelve original IP's in development to work on yet another sequel (which turned out to be the last adventure game LA published, leaving those theoretically cancelled projects to die).

In sum, I think EMI is sort of indicative of all the upheaval (firings, walkouts, the dwindling adventure market forcing a new corporate strategy) going on internally at the time, and turned out to be something like a massive tax writeoff for LALLLC. It probably left a lot of talented artists thinking, "it's just not that fun to be an adventure game designer anymore."

Well said. My thought exactly. EfMI is the regrettable product of a culmination of unfortunate events at a then unhappy LA.

Lola_Minnie
07/05/2009, 02:09 am
It's my least favourite of the series, but I still think it's a very good game. And I really wasn't bothered by the graphics, except on Pegnose Pete, who looked really weird. I think EMI improved LeChuck over CMI, though (MI2 LeChuck is still my favourite), in CMI he was just as dumb as a rock and I didn't really like it, but at least in EMI he had half a brain back. I know people will disagree with me, but it's just my personal opinion.

Juicius Maximus
07/05/2009, 02:36 am
EMI is certainly not all bad. It has some hilarious moments that rival anything in prior MI games, they're just too few and far between. It's easy to bash it when we had it so good with LA adventure titles in general for what, 15 years at that point?

I remember frequenting the scummbar forum before CMI even came out. That being the first continuation of the series sans Ron, let me tell you it was like a hunk of raw meat thrown to a pack of rabid dogs. The hatred for it was deeper than anything I've seen since, and it didn't really get the respect it deserved until EMI came out!

And when fans complain about ToMI's 3d graphics, it totally cracks me up because they did the SAME thing to CMI. "I doesn't feel right. I want my VGA back!" Like, they were fine with every other LA title advancing graphically, but wanted MI to be stuck in the early 90's forever!

harlequ1n
07/05/2009, 10:04 am
A bit off-topic but I remember playing Curse of Monkey Island (MI3) for the first time and loving the new graphic style while most people didn't like it at all... happened the same with Zelda Wind Waker.

KEBSD
07/05/2009, 10:48 am
I have to say that EMI really put shame to Murray. He was a really enjoyable character in CMI.

thatdude98
07/06/2009, 01:47 am
Am I the only one who thinks that each installment of MI is better than its predecessor?

I like EMI.

thatdude98
07/06/2009, 01:58 am
Yes, EMI do indeed lacke the piratey atmosphere. But it always seemed intentional on the part of the designers. EMI depicts a world where the pirate way has been co-opted by suburban consumerism, something the series always hinted at (with the "tm"s and stuff). It's central theme was "it's just not that fun to be a pirate anymore." It was a compelling idea, but about as fun to play as it sounds. The game felt phoned in, the characteristic LA polish wasn't there, it just felt like their hearts weren't in it. I have a sneaking suspicion the suits forced EMI out the door on a very tight budget and timeline, effectively hammering the last nail in the coffin of their adventure wing (and I think they did all that on purpose). To me, the whole corporate culture plot element of EMI always smacked of resentment on the part of the designers, who very well may have had to shelve original IP's in development to work on yet another sequel (which turned out to be the last adventure game LA published, leaving those theoretically cancelled projects to die).

In sum, I think EMI is sort of indicative of all the upheaval (firings, walkouts, the dwindling adventure market forcing a new corporate strategy) going on internally at the time, and turned out to be something like a massive tax writeoff for LALLLC. It probably left a lot of talented artists thinking, "it's just not that fun to be an adventure game designer anymore."

Oh, come on. Personally, EMI was great. It grew on me as I played. You seriously didn't like the un-piratey atmosphere? I thought it was a good humor sense. I didn't hear anyone complain about CMI! They did their best. let's face it: you guys are just upset about the whole Herman Toothrot being H.T. Marley.

Juicius Maximus
07/06/2009, 03:05 am
Oh, come on. Personally, EMI was great. It grew on me as I played. You seriously didn't like the un-piratey atmosphere? I thought it was a good humor sense. I didn't hear anyone complain about CMI! They did their best. let's face it: you guys are just upset about the whole Herman Toothrot being H.T. Marley.

As I said before, I don't think EMI sucked. My post wasn't intended as haterade, just a totally subjective critique (I actually find it's flaws sort of fascinating) with some largely uninformed speculation about it's conception. And I found the un-piratey atmosphere appropriately sardonic, just sort of depressing. In my follow up post, I mentioned that many fans actually did complain about CMI upon it's release, IMO much harsher than with EMI. I mean, people were literally like "Monkey Island is now dead to me because Ron's gone and this isn't VGA/MIDI." It was a different time, what can I say?

Anyway, totally respect your opinion, as well as everyone else's on this board. Even the Germans.

EDIT: One last thing. The real intent of that post wasn't even to critique EMI, but to talk about it's themes as possibly being the designers' critique on the industry turning it's back on adventure games.

vague_hit
07/06/2009, 10:20 am
you know, i just played through curse of monkey island for the first time ever since i bought it about ...i think its been ten years?
you know what stopped me dead in my tracks of playing it? the fact that Elaine referred to Guybrush as her 'one true love' at the start. I mean, seriously... really? it made absolutely no sense at all considering the way they interacted in Monkey Island 2. I actually thought it made a lot more sense that she just kindof tolerated him in Escape from Monkey Island (which I have to admit was way too cryptic for me.. I couldn't get past some of the harder puzzles so I abandoned it, probably never to finish it).

I absolutely worship the first two games and have played them both so many times in the past 15 years that I found I knew every line by heart when I replayed them recently in celebration of the new 'Tales' announcement (which is what lead to me dusting off Curse). That said, I don't know if I can bring myself to play through all of number four before starting on Tales. There were a couple of bits that made me really laugh hard but it didnt seem to have the genius of the first two. Curse of Monkey Island in the end did win me over with how funny it was (and I thought Stan's crypt was pretty clever) though for a while there it almost felt like it was trying to do the same things with the story and progression as the first two games but BIGGER

KB57
07/06/2009, 03:52 pm
Well, I just finished replaying EMI, and congratulated myself on my timing-- tomorrow I can play TMI. I have to say, I didn't find Monkey Kombat all that dismal an experience, using the chart at least. The puzzle with pitching rocks down the tunnels in the canyon was a lot more annoying. What did bug me was going to all that trouble to learn the Monkey Kombat moves and then, in the big final faceoff with Stone LeChuck... well, you know.

As for Elaine suddenly deciding she loved Guybrush, at the beginning of CMI? I had a family member tell me last week she had just broken up with the guy she'd been dating for two years, that he was nice but boring, that she'd never really loved him, that she just wasn't cut out for romance, et cetera et cetera... and this weekend she announced that they just got engaged. Never expect people to make sense.

PorkLord
07/06/2009, 04:05 pm
I hated EFMI, not only did terrible controls and strange graphics ruin a decent video game, but the story and approach completely killed the Monkey Island spirit with weird plot twists that make no sense.

Monkey Combat sucked, 'the secret of Monkey Island' was stupid, the controls, graphics and story sucked.

That being said Monkey Island is my favourite game series ever, and the second installment is my favourite -


For me the best is Le Chuck's Revenge. I consider TSOMI an almost perfect game. It has a magical element which makes all pieces fit together so well. The story, the graphics, the characters...

But, MI2 LCR is like the first one, but with amazing hand painted graphics, one of the best soundtracks of any video game ever, and even more crazy antics and characters. It may not be as perfect as the first, but I consider it a better game. Strange and contradictory? Yes, maybe.


This sums it up nicely :)

I know my EFMI hate may be a little extreme but it's the intense love for the originals and subsequent bastardization by EFMI that causes such rage.

onlyamonkey
07/06/2009, 04:25 pm
lol nurrrdrage.

hammy797
07/06/2009, 04:59 pm
Haha, I hate to blaspheme here, but I might have to say that my personal monkey island order is:
MI 3, MI 4,MI 1, MI 2
Not that LeChuck's Revenge is bad or anything, but it just didn't quite click with me.


...Please don't kill me. If you kill me....

vague_hit
07/06/2009, 07:24 pm
your LEAST favourite is MI2??

*head explodes*

Irishmile
07/06/2009, 07:37 pm
You crack me up little buddy

Super Bosco
07/06/2009, 07:39 pm
EFMI is actually one of the first games that got me into adventure gaming. I probably would have never been as into Monkey Island as I am now if it hadn't been for that game. I personally thought it was a great game that deserves a lot more than what people say. I mean I wouldn't say its the best out of all of them, but I certainly wouldn't say its a weak point in the series.

LukeSW
07/06/2009, 08:37 pm
Perhaps the problem is that EMI was never going to live up to people's expectations;it was doomed to fail simply because people expected too much. Whilst I continue to believe that the game was ill-conceived and poorly made, perhaps even if this had not been the case, the game would still have "failed" in the eyes of the public.

Also, it's worth remembering that not only did it have to live up to the reputation of the previous three instalments in the series, it was released after Grim Fandango, which itself must have been a very hard act to follow.

Roundheadpolice
07/06/2009, 10:00 pm
I only got into the MI franchise about 9 months ago and played through the first 3 and loved them!

Then took me ages to get my hands on a copy of EMI and I was actually really disappointed with it. Didn't get round to finishing it until this week, and that was only because I don't want to play TMI before I've completed its predecessor.

Vegan
07/06/2009, 10:04 pm
EFMI is one of the few video games that I've ever started and then not finished. And I've finished a lot of crap in my day just for the sake of finishing it. I really didn't like Escape.

Boots
07/06/2009, 10:06 pm
Am I the only one who thinks that each installment of MI is better than its predecessor?

i personally liked CoMI the most, then it would be MI1,2 then 4. but that never stopped me from playing each game over, dozens of times :D

thatdude98
07/07/2009, 06:17 am
As I said before, I don't think EMI sucked. My post wasn't intended as haterade, just a totally subjective critique (I actually find it's flaws sort of fascinating) with some largely uninformed speculation about it's conception. And I found the un-piratey atmosphere appropriately sardonic, just sort of depressing. In my follow up post, I mentioned that many fans actually did complain about CMI upon it's release, IMO much harsher than with EMI. I mean, people were literally like "Monkey Island is now dead to me because Ron's gone and this isn't VGA/MIDI." It was a different time, what can I say?

Anyway, totally respect your opinion, as well as everyone else's on this board. Even the Germans.

EDIT: One last thing. The real intent of that post wasn't even to critique EMI, but to talk about it's themes as possibly being the designers' critique on the industry turning it's back on adventure games.

OKayz. :rolleyes: ;) :)

Barnabus
07/07/2009, 07:34 am
As for Elaine suddenly deciding she loved Guybrush, at the beginning of CMI? I had a family member tell me last week she had just broken up with the guy she'd been dating for two years, that he was nice but boring, that she'd never really loved him, that she just wasn't cut out for romance, et cetera et cetera... and this weekend she announced that they just got engaged. Never expect people to make sense.

Good storytelling shouldn't demand the audience come up with their own explanations for holes and inconsistencies in character behaviour. MI3 was a well made game in many respects but they did a poor job of staying true to some of the original characterisations. For its flaws, even MI4 seemed to recognise that fact and make an attempt to rectify it.

TofuHead
07/07/2009, 04:48 pm
Honestly, I think the OP is a troll.

But EFMI is the worst in the series. Bad graphics, bad control, bad story. It wasn't even funny. I didn't laugh out loud once. The only memorable part of the game for me was the prosthetics shop.

Lapino
07/07/2009, 05:31 pm
I'm ok with people liking EFMI the best... I disagree but I am happy there is love for it..

Seems to me you can pretty much guess what games people like the most by their age..... people around age 30 seem to like 1 or 2, People around age 20 seem to like 3... and people who are strange like 4. Just kidding about the strange bit... sort of :D

I'm 25 and I like 2 the best, does this make me older than I am? :(

Kyote
07/07/2009, 06:27 pm
I think EMI gets more hate than it deserves, even if it is the weakest entry of the four. It's not terrible, it's just not a 5 outta 5 like the first three...

icedan
07/07/2009, 06:42 pm
For sentimental reasons, I find myself liking MI1 the most; with MI2 coming in close.

MI3 is different, in terms of adventure games, MI3 is a winner, it probably is the best of the series.

MI4 fell into an unfortunate time of the gaming industry, a time when, making everything 3D was cost and time effective, plus popular; I feel sorry for MI4, if only the artwork had been something like MI3, the response to the game would probably different, you might even have enjoyed Monkey Kombat. I find that most people who enjoyed MI4 are newcomers to Monkey Island, going back to the originals is like first driving a Ferrari, then later driving a Ford Model T just to experience where cars come from - it is only going to suck unless you know how to appreciate it. However, this is where MI3 stands tall, its artwork is timeless.

Lennie Melvin
07/07/2009, 08:46 pm
I'm ok with people liking EFMI the best... I disagree but I am happy there is love for it..

Seems to me you can pretty much guess what games people like the most by their age..... people around age 30 seem to like 1 or 2, People around age 20 seem to like 3... and people who are strange like 4. Just kidding about the strange bit... sort of :D

I'm 15 and I like the first and second one best :)

Austin P
07/08/2009, 10:49 am
MI3 was a well made game in many respects but they did a poor job of staying true to some of the original characterisations. For its flaws, even MI4 seemed to recognise that fact and make an attempt to rectify it.

Since when? Guybrush was never totally incompetent, nor did Elaine treat Guybrush with spite until LeChuck's Revenge, and they had just broken up, not just gotten marries.