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prizna 01/28/2010 09:13 pm

Lechuck? (Possible Spoilers)
 
Just a small poll on your ideas of Lechuck in the next Monkey Island game.

Uzrname 01/28/2010 10:18 pm

My guess is that LeChuck should undoubtedly return in the next game as the final antagonist (i.e. the guy behind everything, as always), however it should also be revealed that the Voodoo Lady was the one to reanimate him this time and she was actually one of his henchmen or something, since the beginning. I really like Tales' take on that subj and hope to see it in the next game (if there will be one).

I'd also hope De Singe would return, perhaps to help Guybrush this time. However he met a gruesome death back there, so... I guess not.

Hayden 01/28/2010 10:20 pm

I hope that they give LeChuck a rest on the bench for the next game or two just to avoid the series becoming repetitive and stale. A new villain would be nice, for sure, and I hope that Telltale will introduce a unique and cool new character for the next season. I don't think nor want the Voodoo Lady to become the new villain. I stand by my theory that the Voodoo Lady is not evil.

Uzrname 01/28/2010 10:25 pm

Oh, they should definitely introduce another villain. I.e. the main one staying LeChuck, and... maybe return Largo LaGrande. Yeah, I haven't thought of it first, returning Largo would be pretty neat, actually.

Hayden 01/28/2010 10:32 pm

Yeah, as nice as it would be to see the tough little runt again, it'd be a lot nicer to see an entirely new character - someone with a pegleg, a giant scar, and a cool hat.

apenpaap 01/29/2010 02:05 am

I think LeChuck is really done for this time, and the Voodoo Lady will be the new villain.

Friar 01/29/2010 02:08 am

I would like to see him as the main protagonist, but not revealed to be revived until the end of chapter four. Similair to the Marquis de Singe was thought to be the main eveil character in tales.

Hassat Hunter 01/29/2010 02:13 am

Of course he should be back. MI without LeChuck is like MI without Threepwood.

Also I agree with the statement that doubts the Voodoo Lady is evil (I don't think she is).

tredlow 01/29/2010 02:28 am

The main antagonist is the fisherman from MI2. He wanted revenge against Guybrush.

Uzrname 01/29/2010 05:19 am

In fact, I think that the Voodoo Lady shouldn't be evil after all (forget what I said earlier). Come to think of it, she might've simply been possessed by LeChuck's voodoo and this is why she wanted to keep his remains at the end of Tales - to find a way to become like LeChuck. She was interested in his powers ever since and was manipulating Guybrush into finding a way to extract them for him, that being her only "evil" side.

But a new villain should definitely resurface, and I kinda don't want him to be a completely new character because I think that we already had enough of them: Ozzie Mandrill, De Singe, etc. I really think it should be Largo LaGrande who returns to kick Guybrush's ass and has finally learned some clever moves this time. I'd also like to see at least one of the three MI2 islands return in an episode.

Then, LeChuck would come back again, at the end, as the final villain. During this time he will elaborate another plan on how to get out and try to kill Guybrush once more. I agree that MI without LeChuck is like Harry Potter movies without Radcliffe.

Hayden 01/29/2010 05:45 am

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Originally Posted by Uzrname (Post 257169)
But a new villain should definitely resurface, and I kinda don't want him to be a completely new character because I think that we already had enough of them: Ozzie Mandrill, De Singe, etc. I really think it should be Largo LaGrande who returns to kick Guybrush's ass and has finally learned some clever moves this time. I'd also like to see at least one of the three MI2 islands return in an episode.

Yeah, but, you see, all of those characters you've listed have been secondary villains - not main ones. I think we need a brand new main villain, instead of just promoting one of LeChuck's sidekicks. Plus, why not another new villain? There's always room in MI to throw more characters into the mix - expand the Monkey Island world even more, I say!

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Originally Posted by Uzrname (Post 257169)
Then, LeChuck would come back again, at the end, as the final villain. During this time he will elaborate another plan on how to get out and try to kill Guybrush once more. I agree that MI without LeChuck is like Harry Potter movies without Radcliffe.

I say we should give LeChuck a longer hiatus. I love the guy as a character but I really don't want him, or the storyline, to get stale - which is the way it will become if it's just another LeChuck-tries-to-kill-Guybrush-and-marry-Elaine plot.

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Originally Posted by Uzrname (Post 257169)
In fact, I think that the Voodoo Lady shouldn't be evil after all (forget what I said earlier). Come to think of it, she might've simply been possessed by LeChuck's voodoo and this is why she wanted to keep his remains at the end of Tales - to find a way to become like LeChuck. She was interested in his powers ever since and was manipulating Guybrush into finding a way to extract them for him, that being her only "evil" side.

Hey, that a pretty good explanation for the whole "is the voodoo lady evil, or not" thing.

By the way, Daniel Radcliffe wasn't right for the part of Harry Potter.

Reaper Lyn 01/29/2010 08:23 am

There's no way LeChuck is gone for good; this guy's basically the poster child for coming back to (un)life from improbably impossible situations. But, I think it's time for a rest for the character. It'd be nice to see hints of his presence in the future - subtle reminders that maybe, maybe he isn't as gone as the Caribbean would like him to be.

That being said, let's introduce a new villain. It's a big world, there have to be more villains out there (not to mention pirates of low moral fiber). So a new antagonist would be refreshing. Plus, there's clearly something going on with the Voodoo Lady. I can't really see her in all-out villainy (nothing on LeChuck's level, at least), but... something antagonistic, nonetheless. Maybe. I don't even know what's going on in her head.

And I would like to see Largo again. He was hilarious, the little punk. Maybe as a decoy villain to fake us out before the real big bad shows up?

Giovanni 01/29/2010 08:39 am

Even if I know it would be repetitive, I'd like LeChuck to return in his human form and help Guybrush once again, honestly, this time! They fight together to put an end to the Voodoo Lady's puppet show! One thing that I hoped would happen in Tales was that LeChuck would sacrifice himself to save Guybrush, somehow. So I'd really like if this happened in the next season!

Uzrname 01/29/2010 08:42 am

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Originally Posted by haydenwce27 (Post 257177)
Plus, why not another new villain? There's always room in MI to throw more characters into the mix - expand the Monkey Island world even more, I say!

That's the main problem with MI series, I find. In every game there have been side chars practically thrown at us, to disappear cluelessly near the end. They never get their traits developed properly, they just appear one-sided and this is how we must either hail, or boo them at the same time. I really think they should get an old character out of the dust and redo him (or her), making him/her reappear with much more asskicking style than before. And make Guybrush say: "Oh god, now I hate him/her even more..."



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Originally Posted by haydenwce27 (Post 257177)
I say we should give LeChuck a longer hiatus. [...] By the way, Daniel Radcliffe wasn't right for the part of Harry Potter.

The problem with LeChuck (and it was the same with Radcliffe appearing in Potter movies) is that he's been so long around ever since, it's hard to picture a game without him now. I'm not saying it can't be done, but seeing as the more he returns - the more he's spectacular, the only character who could overcome him as a villain without losing spectacularity at the same time would be the Voodoo Lady. Because I doubt a new villain could do the trick: remember how bad Mandrill failed at the end of EMI?

harald 01/29/2010 08:49 am

I agree that it's nice to have new stuff added to the Monkey Island universe, but let's not take it too far, right? I mean, LeChuck IS the villain. He's Guybrush's antagonist. He's the reason for Guybrush's adventures. I don't want Monkey Island to turn stale either, but I want it to remain Monkey Island.

Uzrname 01/29/2010 08:51 am

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Originally Posted by Reaper Lyn (Post 257211)
not to mention pirates of low moral fiber

It was actually "men of low moral fiber" i.e. pirates, but I get your point.

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Originally Posted by Reaper Lyn (Post 257211)
And I would like to see Largo again. He was hilarious, the little punk. Maybe as a decoy villain to fake us out before the real big bad shows up?

And while at it, here's what I would've liked to happen in the next game: with LeChuck stuck in time/space for good now, the Caribbean start to slowly regain its pirateness, seeing as they're not afraid anymore. Many pirates start to try to take LeChuck's place, but suddenly comes Largo - he challenges Guybrush and tells him about yet another voodoo shenanigan that could potentially revive LeChuck. And while the two of them race each other in search for the ingredients: Guybrush to prevent this from happening and Largo to make it happen, they both bump into the Voodoo Lady who, gaining LeChuck's power, has started gaining lust for it

What would've been really wicked is Guybrush eventually journeying into the remains of LeChuck's mind, where he encounters weird things and people and finally learns some shocking truth (like LeChuck actually being his brother, or something), before confronting the final villain. There must be a huge twist in the storyline for this though.

Hassat Hunter 01/29/2010 11:48 am

Nobody wants Wally back?

"I am sure I know you from somewhere... oh, it's Wally! And see, this time I have grown a full beard! :p"

Uzrname 01/29/2010 11:50 am

Didn't he die?

Hassat Hunter 01/29/2010 12:39 pm

He survived an exploding ship, why not an exploding rollercoaster?

(unless he appears in EMI and he dies there, I don't think that happens...)

apenpaap 01/29/2010 12:43 pm

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Originally Posted by Uzrname (Post 257315)
Didn't he die?

Yes, he's in the afterlife doing cooking contests with Largo and DeSinge.


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