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DeLuca 02/22/2010 08:23 am

Now that we know the end of TMI, what's in store for MI6 (your ideas)
 
Okay, the assumptions (I know there are no facts to back this up) of this thread is that TTG will make another MI that takes place after TMI, and that Guybrush will be our main character.

What do you think/want to happen?!

apenpaap 02/22/2010 10:03 am

I think the Voodoo Lady will be the great villain, using LeChuck's remains for some kinky voodoo ceremony that will make her really powerful. I think Morgan returns as a ghost pirate hunter, but will probably be able to touch stuff because like LeChuck the Voodoo Lady brought her back and not a voodoolicenceless pirate. I think Guybrush, Elaine, and Winslow will have some piraty adventures until they find out what the Voodoo Lady is doing, at which point Elaine will go into "I told you so"-mode.

Admonisher 02/22/2010 10:04 am

Well, the idea left hanging at the end of TOMI is that Guybrush and LeChuck have some sort of common destiny that goes beyond the surface motivations of Elaine and piracy. It's suggested that the Voodoo Lady has some sort of "outcome" in mind. Elaine believes Guybrush has "broken free" of this destiny -- but what IS that destiny supposed to be? HAS he broken free? And is that a GOOD thing, or does it spell doom for everyone? Heady stuff, I suppose ... but TOMI demonstrated how to strike a good balance with humor and the patented MI style.

Jen Kollic 02/22/2010 10:07 am

Three words: ZOMBIE. MORGAN. LEFLAY. Because unless she's a ghost like LeChuck was, she won't be able to do much in the physical world.

Hassat Hunter 02/22/2010 10:41 am

I still doubt the Voodoo Lady is "evil", more the balance-keeper, prefering the good (Guybrush), but knowing evil (LeChuck) is needed to keep the balance, and thus cannot be vanquished forever.

She might try to end the cycle, it goes horribly wrong... chaos ensues... SEASON 2!
(well, that's just my speculation)

GuruGuru214 02/22/2010 12:34 pm

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Originally Posted by Jen Kollic (Post 264160)
Three words: ZOMBIE. MORGAN. LEFLAY. Because unless she's a ghost like LeChuck was, she won't be able to do much in the physical world.

I'm thinking that the voodoo lady made arrangements for that when she let her back into the physical world. Besides, I don't like the thought of Morgan's half-decomposed body.

Mermaid 02/22/2010 01:51 pm

I'd like to see an encounter between the Voodoo Lady and Elaine. After TMI, I had the feeling that there's some sort of unsaid tension between those two, with Elaine not trusting in the ways of Voodoo, therefore trying to keep Guybrush away from it, hence jeopardizing the Voodoo Lady's long term plans with Guybrush and LeChuck. Maybe Elaine and the VL even have a common past to some extent. And IF she's behind everything, than Elaine has a good reason to be mad at her because VL is responsible for LeChuck's obsession with Elaine.

Kroms 02/22/2010 02:07 pm

I'd revolve the story around Elaine. Dominic Armato once said that Elaine's always had Guybrush's love by default, and that he'd like to see her earn it. I love Elaine - she kicks substantial amounts of ass, especially in TMI04+05 - but the next story should try and explore her a little, maybe even shed a bit of light on her actions in TMI.

I get the feeling DeCava is going to return. Good! That guy has so much potential. He probably writes himself.

Hmm...my ideas, though. Well, I'd start the story by having Guybrush lead an assault against LeChuck or the Voodoo Lady, maybe a little timidly. There's this part of me that thinks it should be about him attempting to retrieve the dead back to the land of the living, but it's a little too Shadow of the Colossus. Maybe atone for something? He's screwed over loads of people...but then again, that's the point of the trial.

It'd have to be something NOT involved with finding a McGuffin, that's the thing. I should go read a few pirate biographies first, and then get back to this topic.

the image that comes to my mind is LeChuck attempting to get married to someone in a teal green-lit room with floating candles, though that person is not Elaine. Guybrush is attempting to stop it. I don't know why.

See, now you've got me stretching those writer's muscles. Gah. I'm trying to write my own short stories, damn you. I'll see if I knock-up an outline or something, and then stick it on here in the next few days.

Trenchfoot 02/22/2010 02:11 pm

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Originally Posted by Mermaid (Post 264222)
I'd like to see an encounter between the Voodoo Lady and Elaine. After TMI, I had the feeling that there's some sort of unsaid tension between those two, with Elaine not trusting in the ways of Voodoo, therefore trying to keep Guybrush away from it, hence jeopardizing the Voodoo Lady's long term plans with Guybrush and LeChuck. Maybe Elaine and the VL even have a common past to some extent. And IF she's behind everything, than Elaine has a good reason to be mad at her because VL is responsible for LeChuck's obsession with Elaine.

I've got it!

Voodoo Lady: I... am your mother.

Elaine: No! That's not true! That's IMPOSSIBLE!

Voodoo Lady: Search your feelings, Elaine, you know it to be true!

Elaine: Nooooooooooooo!

Voodoo Lady: Join me and tog--

Elaine: Wait a minute! How are you my mother if you're black??

Sorry, couldn't resist :p

Jen Kollic 02/22/2010 02:11 pm

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Originally Posted by Kroms (Post 264229)
the image that comes to my mind is LeChuck attempting to get married to someone in a teal green-lit room with floating candles, though that person is not Elaine. Guybrush is attempting to stop it. I don't know why.

Maybe it's Morgan? I don't know why on earth she'd consider marrying LeChuck, and neither would Guybrush but he'd try to stop it anyway.

Astro Gnocci 02/22/2010 02:58 pm

We'll just play as murray and roll around from evil mini game to evil mini game until the whole carribean gets abducted by alien mariachis.

Gman5852 02/22/2010 03:16 pm

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Originally Posted by Astro Gnocci (Post 264242)
We'll just play as murray and roll around from evil mini game to evil mini game until the whole carribean gets abducted by alien mariachis.

That would actually be an interesting side quest.

DonCopal 02/22/2010 06:10 pm

I always thought of the Voodoo Lady as more of a humorous plot device than an actual villain. It's nice to see Telltale might attempt to go beyond that, but it would be a difficult transition for me.

Inika_Unite77 02/22/2010 06:26 pm

Hmmmm....Guybrush's kids, maybe? (i know, its been brought up before.)

PecanBlue 02/22/2010 08:25 pm

A kid would be pretty cool to have as a sidekick/frequent hook-like puzzle solver, (Can't fit into this small area with an important item? Talk your kid into doing it!) and of course as a plot element, but I just think it's too soon. I mean I don't want it to go from Tales right to the next game and BOOP! Oh, we had a kid throughout that time. Might be too hard for me to take in, and I'm reeeaaaally not interested in them having one during the course of an actual game, I prefer it to happen by the kid just existing in a new game after off-screen time has passed from a previous game.

Right now, all I really want is some Elaine development. I can't really think of how it could be done but any would be nice without making the whole story completely focused on her. I'm a little tired of her getting captured and us having to "save" her also. I liked her in MI2 because she required no saving there and actually had to go to get Guybrush out of his own mess, I wish I could see something like that again but with more screen time and development.

Oh and I want Wally back.

Avistew 02/22/2010 08:37 pm

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Originally Posted by PecanBlue (Post 264283)
Right now, all I really want is some Elaine development. I can't really think of how it could be done but any would be nice without making the whole story completely focused on her.

Idea: instead of getting out of their way to keep her away from Guybrush in any way possible, have them adventure as a couple, together, as a team. You control Guybrush but Elaine is here as your partner.
I'm tired of her conveniently being away from the action. She doesn't have to be. There are games where you play with a partner. And it's very hard for them to be a believable couple when whenever we see them they're actually apart, or have just been reunited, or are about to be apart again.

Let them be together for more than 5 minutes straight. As it is, Elaine is one of the characters Guybrush has spent the least time with in-game.

Hassat Hunter 02/22/2010 08:52 pm

TTG announcing... Guybrush and Elaine 2011!
Hmmm...

I definitely would prefer Elaine over a kid for sidekick, but let's leave the side-kicking for Sam and Max, okay?
Although a DOTT-esque "3 timelines" would be great to have...

Avistew 02/22/2010 09:21 pm

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Originally Posted by Hassat Hunter (Post 264289)
TTG announcing... Guybrush and Elaine 2011!
Hmmm...

I definitely would prefer Elaine over a kid for sidekick, but let's leave the side-kicking for Sam and Max, okay?
Although a DOTT-esque "3 timelines" would be great to have...

She doesn't have to tag along behind his every moves. You partner with Morgan in chapter 3 and 5 for instance. Although the idea of splitting up could be nice for Elaine's character development and from a gameplay point of view, it doesn't help the relationship thing very much.

Guybrush has had nice interactions with Morgan and Winslow in this season, and that probably counts for a lot in how popular these two are, they had great lines. Neither of them could be considered a sidekick, though.

In most of the MI games, Elaine is just not there. She's somewhere else, busy or incapacitated. You barely get to interact with her. She could be more present without needing to be constantly following Guybrush. If the part is on a ship, she can be on the ship too, available for talking to and being part of solving some puzzles. If the part is on land, she can be in one location, doing her part in the mission, but still available if Guybrush needs helps with something, which he will.

Or she could be the one with the plan and GB be the one with the legs. She'd "replace" the Voodoo Lady in that case, which, if the Voodoo Lady isn't trusted anymore, could make sense anyways. You'd talk to her a lot to know what you have to do, she wouldn't know exactly how you can do it and she'd take part of the stuff to do upon her own shoulders or something.

I don't know, it just seems to me it's getting a bit much. Like, there is always a reason for them to be apart from each other, can't we see them together more? They're a couple after all. I'm not saying they have to spend all of their time together but it would be nice to see them interact more, is all.

PecanBlue 02/23/2010 05:57 am

Yes, when I say "sidekick" I don't really mean a character following you around forever like in Sam & Max, more like he/she stands around in one place and triggers puzzles or puzzle solutions through some dialogue. Like how Morgan did, as avistew said. The sidekick aspect is more in the fact that he/she would be part of Guybrush's adventures often and is weaker and/or smaller than Guybrush and not as important as the actual protagonist. Pyrite Parrot was probably the one real sidekick-like character in Tales.

I personally like that Guybrush and Elaine constantly separate to their own adventures, but I don't like that when we have time with Elaine she's either not herself, or captured in some way. Don't get me wrong, I loved poxed Elaine, but it didn't allow for much character development since we didn't see her cured self as much. The interactions in Spinner Cay would have been ok if it wasn't for "oops too busy with these arguing folks." Just hopefully her screen time won't get to the level of Curse bad.

AlmostApollo 02/23/2010 06:06 am

We need to see a return from Herman, Wally, possibly your original crew, and some other MI cast members from the past. Maybe even return to Woodtick and see what Largo is up to.


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