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Bloody Eugene 06/10/2010 10:15 am

Will TT Engine be capable to render photorealistic graphic?
 
I'm worried that the TT Engine will not be able to deliver high-end graphic that fully respect the high visual standard that the Jurassic Park brand needs. The movie was a milestone about this, but will the TT graphic engine be capable to render lights effects, enough polygons and detailed textures that the project needs?
When JP will be out, another game will be realeased and, although it's a different genre, it will set the graphic standard: i'm talking of Crysis 2.
How will it compare to JP?

The last photorealistic game TT did was CSI: Hard Evidence and although it has clean and nice graphic, it cannot compete with nowadays standards:

http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0...8_65_super.jpg
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/screen...s_Faces_36.jpg
One of the two is Crysis 2... ;)

Of course all I've said is completely unnuseful if the plan is to release JP for Wii given its old hardware and its crappy and anachronistic 40mb limit...

corruptbiggins 06/10/2010 10:16 am

Probably not and I don't really think they should try. It's not really what they do.

Bloody Eugene 06/10/2010 10:24 am

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Originally Posted by corruptbiggins (Post 322422)
Probably not and I don't really think they should try. It's not really what they do.

Ok, but do you think that the game will not look old with graphics like this in 2010/2011? Or even market appealing?
http://www.justadventure.com/Upcomin...ntent/SS03.jpg

MusicallyInspired 06/10/2010 11:55 am

CSI was an old game. Old old. Don't you guys get that? They can totally pull off realistic Crysis-like graphics with the TTG tool if they wanted to. It's absolutely possible. Game engines are modular. They aren't stuck in a certain set of restrictions. You can add till your heart's content.

SHODANFreeman 06/10/2010 11:59 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bloody Eugene (Post 322421)
The last photorealistic game TT did was CSI: Hard Evidence and although it has clean and nice graphic, it cannot compete with nowadays standards

Incorrect. The last one they did was CSI: Deadly Intent this past October.

http://media.teamxbox.com/games/ss/2...1247872130.jpg

PS: I'm pretty sure that JA screenshot posted above was either taken on a bad PC or from a really early version of the game, because the game looks much better than that.

LuigiHann 06/10/2010 07:01 pm

None of these screenshots have dinosaurs in them

Little Writer 06/11/2010 12:13 am

I've always wondered about this: how much does graphic quality rely on the engine used, and how much on the artists' design? Because I would say, if you fail to create a detailed realistic looking model, no amount of 3D processing power or whatever it's called will be able to make it look good. Or am I looking at it wrong?

Secret Fawful 06/11/2010 12:22 am

Hey guys I found a photorealistic screenshot. It looks amazing!

http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Page...assic-park.jpg

Little Writer 06/11/2010 12:24 am

I don't know, the models look a bit waxy to me.

jp-30 06/11/2010 12:34 am

Lighting is crap.

Haggis 06/11/2010 12:39 am

That looks terrible. Only games can get away with washed-out graphics like that; if this was in a Hollywood film, it would flop at the box office.

Little Writer 06/11/2010 12:44 am

Then again, I like the idea of an FMV-Renaissance ...

taumel 06/11/2010 12:50 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by MusicallyInspired (Post 322468)
CSI was an old game. Old old. Don't you guys get that? They can totally pull off realistic Crysis-like graphics with the TTG tool if they wanted to. It's absolutely possible. Game engines are modular. They aren't stuck in a certain set of restrictions. You can add till your heart's content.

You know that this isn't true, right?

All GameEngines i at least have seen have their very own featuresets and limitations. Depending on the aspects you want to replace this either works or isn't supported at all.

Is Crysis looking realistic? Are we talking about CryEngine 1, 2 or 3? Is the TTT able of deferred lightning? ...

It's safe to assume that the new games will look a lot better than CSI but it's also safe to assume that they won't play in the same league like a well done CryEngine 3 game. But less advanced technology doesn't automatically result into bad looking games, not as long as you have a concept/scenes which take this into account. You can always tweak things, at least to a certain degree.

Bloody Eugene 06/11/2010 01:58 am

ok, but do you agree with me that they have to drop Wii version? The 40mb limit is too...limiting!

SHODANFreeman 06/11/2010 02:00 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bloody Eugene (Post 323045)
ok, but do you agree with me that they have to drop Wii version? The 40mb limit is too...limiting!

The CSI and Sam and Max Wii ports were disc releases, they could do the same with these.

taumel 06/11/2010 02:13 am

Yeah, get yourself a disk! :O)

http://de.academic.ru/pictures/dewik...loppy_disk.jpg

Marty 06/11/2010 02:25 am

My God! That disk is HUGE!
...
I think ulitmately, art direction is more important than the engine itself. Thanks to Ryan Jones, MI and S&M (prior to s3) looked fantastic even when the graphics seem a little dated. I'm just hoping these aren't just cheaply made licensed games pooped out for the naive audience.. "oh look, a Jurassic Park game! Little Jimmy likes dinosaurs!" x every mother in the world = easy buck.
Worse case scenario, really.

Friar 06/11/2010 02:29 am

I hear they are going to use Extremely photo realistic graphics.

Maybe even like this.

Haggis 06/11/2010 02:32 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty (Post 323069)
I'm just hoping these aren't just cheaply made licensed games pooped out for the naive audience.. "oh look, a Jurassic Park game! Little Jimmy likes dinosaurs!" x every mother in the world = easy buck.
Worse case scenario, really.

Nah, Jurassic Park is really a 90s thing. The kids that watched the movies then have now grown up, so the market for these games has grown up as well. Sure, kids might enjoy these games too, but it'd be a mistake to cater only to kids with this, and that's not a mistake I expect Telltale to make. They know what they're doing. :)

Marty 06/11/2010 04:02 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Friar (Post 323072)
I hear they are going to use Extremely photo realistic graphics.

Maybe even like this.

ahh we can only hope
*fingers crossed*


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