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RAnthonyMahan 06/23/2011 04:27 pm

AVGN reviews Telltale's Back to the Future.
 
Just my luck that there's another thread with a similar title but different content. Oh well.

http://cinemassacre.com/2011/06/23/b...e-game-review/

And yeah, I know saying AVGN in the thread title isn't accurate since James isn't in-character, but I had to do what gets people's attention.

Ashki 06/23/2011 06:50 pm

Glad to see this one actually points to the actual review. Thanks!

Shadowknight1 06/23/2011 08:37 pm

He almost went into AVGN mode at the beginning. I mean, you say "Back to the Future the game" and a lot of people from the 80's will instantly think of the NES "game". Game being a euphemism for [REDACTED DUE TO UNNECESSARY AMOUNTS OF SWEARING]

Glad that James liked it! I wish I could see his reaction to the very end!

Johro 06/23/2011 08:49 pm

awesome

Rather Dashing 06/23/2011 08:49 pm

....this was painful to watch. The PC gamer guy meant to provide some sort of context was obnoxiously lacking in knowledge and actually actively wrong in many places, and James is entirely clueless about not only the genre, but PC gaming as a whole, and it shines through here. It's like watching your grandmother talk about the internet.

Johro 06/23/2011 08:59 pm

Oh I agree. This wasnt professional at all. Just like two guys talking on the spot. Was nice to see the game given some time though.

MusicallyInspired 06/23/2011 09:47 pm

Yeah. James isn't the greatest actor either. But it did do one thing, it made it more appealing to people who don't like adventure games by having it reviewed by someone from that sort of crowd....take from that what you will.

The lack of knowledge was cringe-worthy, though, on that other fellow's part.

RAnthonyMahan 06/24/2011 03:48 am

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Originally Posted by Rather Dashing (Post 518986)
....this was painful to watch. The PC gamer guy meant to provide some sort of context was obnoxiously lacking in knowledge and actually actively wrong in many places, and James is entirely clueless about not only the genre, but PC gaming as a whole, and it shines through here. It's like watching your grandmother talk about the internet.

I admit the PC gamer guy was a little...off, but James admitted from the start he never played many PC games. Don't act surprised if he seemed ignorant when it came to them.

Cyphox 06/26/2011 11:47 am

great. now james rolfe thinks that all adventure games are as easy as bttf is. just great. i dont like this pc/notebook-guy

nOmArch 06/26/2011 12:20 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rather Dashing (Post 518986)
....this was painful to watch. The PC gamer guy meant to provide some sort of context was obnoxiously lacking in knowledge and actually actively wrong in many places, and James is entirely clueless about not only the genre, but PC gaming as a whole, and it shines through here. It's like watching your grandmother talk about the internet.

Agreed, utterly painful.

OMA 06/26/2011 01:31 pm

Well, I watched this video some days ago, and I've just rewatched it again after reading your comments, and I can't see what's so wrong about it. It's just a review from the point of view of someone who doesn't play adventure games.

And the "PC guy" just said one thing wrong: Sam & Max isn't TTG's first game (Texas Hold 'em & Bone are). But apart from that, I didn't catch any other wrong stuff.

SHODANFreeman 06/26/2011 07:42 pm

What about the part where he says that all adventure games are roughly the same difficulty as BttF?

63cohen 06/26/2011 08:18 pm

Wowowow

Quote:

I believe they made the puzzles easy to figure out in order to make progress shorter. Since there are 5 episodes, they don't want someone to get stuck, as then they just won't buy any others. They also don't want a user to take too long on one episode, or else they might not be interested in the next episode. It is simple, the game is not meant for hard core adventure gamers, but for basic gamers or bttf fans. Not all fans are into the genre that well, so easing them in is great.

It is also nice they have the hints, I used them a ton. I don't consider myself a bad gamer, I just consider it making the game progress faster.
A post I made earlier I think fits well enough here. This game is way too story based to let challenging puzzles get in the way. I felt if they made them harder, it would make the game go on too long to the point I would have lost interest in the great story.

Oh, and James Rolfe was acting pretty much the whole time. I think he knows other types of games like this are harder.

thesporkman 06/26/2011 08:22 pm

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Originally Posted by SHODANFreeman (Post 520638)
What about the part where he says that all adventure games are roughly the same difficulty as BttF?

I think he just misunderstood James's question. It sounded like he was talking about the interface and way you interact with the game world more than the actual puzzle difficulty.

SHODANFreeman 06/26/2011 08:39 pm

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Originally Posted by 63cohen (Post 520655)
I felt if they made them harder, it would make the game go on too long to the point I would have lost interest in the great story.

That's not an excuse for a game that is pointlessly easy. They can make an easy mode, or just allow the hint system to help out players that can't figure out more difficult puzzles, but just removing any and all challenge from the game? It's like shipping an FPS with no real difficulty settings other than "Can I play, Daddy?"

http://i.imgur.com/3BFmq.png

63cohen 06/27/2011 02:38 am

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Originally Posted by SHODANFreeman (Post 520666)
That's not an excuse for a game that is pointlessly easy. They can make an easy mode, or just allow the hint system to help out players that can't figure out more difficult puzzles, but just removing any and all challenge from the game? It's like shipping an FPS with no real difficulty settings other than "Can I play, Daddy?"

http://i.imgur.com/3BFmq.png

You simply expected too much.

Alstom1995 06/27/2011 04:20 am

Yes you did, I seem to remember Telltale saying we're making a back to the future game. I don't remember them ever saying it will be hard!

The Gentleman 06/27/2011 07:24 am

I honestly expected him to slate the game, but no, he enjoyed it. I'm glad there's another one of us who likes this game.

GaryCXJk 06/27/2011 07:32 am

The thing is, this just proves how much of a niche adventure games have become, partially because of the high dificulty of most. The fact that he enjoys this game because he doesn't have to think too much probably says enough. Not everybody is as patient as most of you.

Or, how I'd like to put it, not everybody is as boss as you.

Rather Dashing 06/27/2011 07:39 am

I seriously do not think that I was SO SMART at five years old that I could outwit James Rolfe now. I mean, I think the guy is a moron when it comes to games(he has a surprisingly good taste in film), but I'm not so foolish as to confuse his childish persona for an actual CHILD'S BRAIN.

If not everyone is made for adventure games, then perhaps not everyone should be PLAYING adventure games. If you have the reflexes of a slug, maybe you shouldn't play first person shooters. If you have the spatial awareness of a mute bat, maybe you shouldn't play platformers. If you're tone deaf, maybe you should put down the Rock Band microphone. If you have a complete and total aversion to anything resembling THOUGHT in any of your leisure activities, then adventure games ARE NOT FOR YOU.


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