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wellgolly 10/14/2011 08:40 pm

I hate to be a killjoy, but here's a long joykilling post.
 
It seems like most of the threads in this subforum are either speculation or suggestions about where to take the franchise from here. Just on the front page alone, there's:
  • A suggestion to buy and finish Freelance Police
  • Speculation about a new TV season
  • Someone planning to sell Purcell's concept to Adult Swim for a new series somehow
  • A season 4 (speculation and) suggestion thread
  • Anticipation for some kind of release for the 25th anniversary of the franchise
  • more speculation about a new TV season

Guys, none of this will happen. Ever. The only exception being the possibility of Steve Purcell drawing a little something on his blog, and a Telltale sale.

First off, things don't work this way. The sheer force of willpower alone can't create things. For the sake of an example, let's talk about the new TV series hopes. Pitching a new show would require tons of work, that a man who already has another demanding job simply can't do. It would take a very, very long time to go from concept to the screen, and most series don't get picked up. Hell, most don't even get to be made into a pilot. Just because you'd like to see it doesn't mean all the steps in the process would go smoothly. Not to mention it doesn't mean Purcell would find time, interest, and a satisfying concept for an adaptation.

Anyway, Sam & Max has always just been a very small amount of content for its fanbase's size.. If you've been a fan of the series since before the first Telltale season, you probably know what I mean. If you were a fan before Hit the Road, you definitely know what I mean.

The stuff we get tends to feel few and far between, but compared to most series, it's pretty insanely large. That's why we got to play three(!) different seasons that came out in just four years. That's pretty impressive. Especially considering no other telltale series even got a second season. The love is what got us from comics to games to tv to more games. But it's still just a cult-hit, and you guys seem to expect things to pump out of the franchise like it's Simpsons big. Although to be honest, not even that could come out with the volume of stuff some posters seem to expect.

I'm sure this isn't the end of the franchise, or even the Telltale series, but let's be realistic, you know? Maybe we'll get the season 3 soundtrack, but the earliest season 4 could possibly come would probably be more than a year, considering all the games telltale's got lined up. Personally, I'm hoping that we get to see the remaining pages of the infamous Max-gets-shot comic someday.

(Also, just to squash out the remaining hope, there's never going to be a poker night dlc with new characters)

coolsome 10/14/2011 09:15 pm

Also theres no Santa.

alik44 10/14/2011 09:26 pm

....wow thx for killing joy and anticipation

Vainamoinen 10/14/2011 10:23 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by wellgolly (Post 549285)
The love is what got us from comics to games to tv to more games.

Wait, did you write anything else?

wellgolly 10/14/2011 11:13 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by alik44 (Post 549290)
....wow thx for killing joy and anticipation

you're lucky i'm here to free you from all that "hopes and dreams" crap

lattsam 10/15/2011 03:32 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by wellgolly (Post 549297)
you're lucky i'm here to free you from all that "hopes and dreams" crap

:(

That really hurt, you know that?

And seriously, nothing is going to ever stop people on this forum from ever asking for those things, no matter how many "let's be realistic here" posts there are. Heck, I'm still going to be asking for them!

Alex IDV 10/15/2011 03:40 am

This is a forum for fans. We don't post about it because we think it's probable (or even possible) that these things will happen. We post about it because we're fans. It's harmless fun.

Shyguy 10/15/2011 04:43 am

I'm sorry, are you from Telltale? Do you know exactly what they're going to do, release, plan and do next?

This is a forum for speculating, which is what we do.

FitzoliverJ 10/15/2011 05:49 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shyguy (Post 549319)
This is a forum for speculating, which is what we do.

And the best way to ensure something happens Sam & Max-wise is by making clear that there's demand for it.

ryannumber1gamer 10/15/2011 07:14 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by wellgolly (Post 549285)
It seems like most of the threads in this subforum are either speculation or suggestions about where to take the franchise from here. Just on the front page alone, there's:
  • A suggestion to buy and finish Freelance Police
  • Speculation about a new TV season
  • Someone planning to sell Purcell's concept to Adult Swim for a new series somehow
  • A season 4 (speculation and) suggestion thread
  • Anticipation for some kind of release for the 25th anniversary of the franchise
  • more speculation about a new TV season

Guys, none of this will happen. Ever. The only exception being the possibility of Steve Purcell drawing a little something on his blog, and a Telltale sale.

First off, things don't work this way. The sheer force of willpower alone can't create things. For the sake of an example, let's talk about the new TV series hopes. Pitching a new show would require tons of work, that a man who already has another demanding job simply can't do. It would take a very, very long time to go from concept to the screen, and most series don't get picked up. Hell, most don't even get to be made into a pilot. Just because you'd like to see it doesn't mean all the steps in the process would go smoothly. Not to mention it doesn't mean Purcell would find time, interest, and a satisfying concept for an adaptation.

Anyway, Sam & Max has always just been a very small amount of content for its fanbase's size.. If you've been a fan of the series since before the first Telltale season, you probably know what I mean. If you were a fan before Hit the Road, you definitely know what I mean.

The stuff we get tends to feel few and far between, but compared to most series, it's pretty insanely large. That's why we got to play three(!) different seasons that came out in just four years. That's pretty impressive. Especially considering no other telltale series even got a second season. The love is what got us from comics to games to tv to more games. But it's still just a cult-hit, and you guys seem to expect things to pump out of the franchise like it's Simpsons big. Although to be honest, not even that could come out with the volume of stuff some posters seem to expect.

I'm sure this isn't the end of the franchise, or even the Telltale series, but let's be realistic, you know? Maybe we'll get the season 3 soundtrack, but the earliest season 4 could possibly come would probably be more than a year, considering all the games telltale's got lined up. Personally, I'm hoping that we get to see the remaining pages of the infamous Max-gets-shot comic someday.

(Also, just to squash out the remaining hope, there's never going to be a poker night dlc with new characters)

well let me be a killjoy to u first telltale listons to what the fans want so that puts the chances of new sam & max stuff bigger and when u think about it sam and max was telltales first full season and one big break for them and u really think they will treat them like dirt? plus telltale has proven to put loads of work into their sam and max games.

Irishmile 10/15/2011 07:14 am

This is a forum ... to have conversations... I see no harm in conversing things that will never happen...

Also... Dogs and Rabbity things will never really be freelance police either.

crfh 10/15/2011 08:40 am

I like to speculate, myself. I also like seeing works from the fandom, and although this forum has become scarcely populated, I have moved to tumblr where they're more active. I keep checking it, however.

It's not like we're going to slit our wrists if nothing happens in a long time. And I think your outlook is excessively pessimist. Sam and Max is a very healthy franchise, and the work they have done in its seasons is STILL the best they have done for any of their licenses.

I have to be honest: I'm not holding my breath on the season 3 soundtrack. Maybe Telltale doesn't deem it marketable because it's more atmospheric and less wacky than the previous two. However, that doesn't mean it's not getting done, or that it's not getting marketed together with Season Four's someday.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that I'm willing to wait for the good stuff.

Johro 10/15/2011 09:54 am

Hey, there's still a L&O:LA forum.... anything is possible :P While, no, I'm not holding my breath on season 4, it will happen. Considering the attention the new licences are achieving, Sam & Max will probably be put on the backburner....but they'll be back.

coolsome 10/15/2011 10:10 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by lattsam (Post 549312)
:(

That really hurt, you know that?

Oh don't worry Tales of Monkey Island was noting but a hopeless dream years ago. So the cliche anything an happen is true.

EDIT: This is a total dick thread. To tell fans to stop hoping on a thread for fans of the series. If you feel big systematically taking apart fans hopes and dreams then putting them down for wanting new games/TV shows then I hope this was worth it.

I hope no one takes reads this and stops hoping or dreaming or imagining what they want from the series. I myself am hoping against hope for a MI (preferably CMI) release for the 3DS.

wellgolly 10/15/2011 04:27 pm

I think maybe you're taking me a bit more seriously than I meant? I realize you know I was kidding about the hopes and dreams thing, I just mean about the harshness of it.

There's nothing wrong with speculating and hoping, it's just that a lot of it seems to venture into unrealistic territory. I'm feeling super optimistic about a season 4 in the future, I just thought a lot of threads were pretty much people setting themselves up for disappointment. So I made one saying, "hey, let's face it: we're almost definitely not gonna see a sam and max movie, but we've got tons of stuff in the meantime, so let's just take it easy."

I suppose the simpsons comment was kinda mean though, sorry.

Anywho, This isn't how I feel big! I do that by kicking sand castles and teasing children.

seibert999 10/16/2011 05:38 am

F*king killjoy

Scnew 10/16/2011 09:59 am

Were this Facebook or Google+, you would have just earned a heart-felt Like and/or +1 from me, OP.

The only thing that realistically might ever happen is a 4th season of the game or more comics from Purcell.

All these posts about everything are just so... out there.

Telltale Games isn't going to make a movie or an animated series. Telltale Games is Telltale GAMES.

Telltale Games isn't going to resurrect Freelance Police. Why do that when you can make your own game? Besides, they obviously want to stretch their legs and do other stuff and I don't blame them for that. I'd love another Sam and Max, but if I worked for Telltale I'd be psyched to have the chance to do something like King's Quest or the Walking Dead.

The Adult Swim pitch thread was particularly hilarious.

Hero1 10/16/2011 04:59 pm

Sam & Max will always surprise! You never know what will happen

supmandude85 10/16/2011 06:52 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jake (Post 548756)
Nothing's "officially planned" until it's "officially announced." As usual, why jump to conclusions? I can't talk about things which don't officially exist.

RIP Jump To Conclusions Mat smiley.

...

Woodsyblue 10/16/2011 11:07 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by wellgolly (Post 549285)
  • A season 4 (speculation and) suggestion thread
  • Anticipation for some kind of release for the 25th anniversary of the franchise
Guys, none of this will happen. Ever. The only exception being the possibility of Steve Purcell drawing a little something on his blog, and a Telltale sale.

When you say 'none of this will happen' and include season 4 speculation and suggestion, are you saying that you don't think a season 4 will ever happen or what people say they want in season 4 will never happen? It's a little ambiguous.

Also I don't think we can completely rule out some kind of release for the 25th anniversary. I mean there might be nothing but there might be something too, we won't know that one till we get there. Otherwise I agree that pretty much everything else on the list is far-fetched.


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