Telltale Games Forums

Telltale Games Forums (http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/index.php)
-   General Chat (http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=6)
-   -   Valve's new business model. Makes jerks pay (http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29740)

Gman5852 05/01/2012 12:25 pm

Valve's new business model. Makes jerks pay
 
So Valve have announced their new business model in which nice people get free rides, while jerks have to pay for their games.

http://www.develop-online.net/news/4...-play#after_ad

My response... WTF? This is going to get exploited so easily! I love the idea of me getting more freebies, but really? Valve better have some genius plan up their sleeves for this business model.

What are your thoughts on this?

TomPravetz 05/01/2012 12:28 pm

Troll votes everyone down. Jerk with lots of friends get voted real high. THIS IS MADNESS.

The Gentleman 05/01/2012 12:30 pm

Valve can probably rat out the trolls though.

They're good at that kind of thing.

DrRocketGenius 05/01/2012 12:42 pm

I was okay reading this until I got to the $100 for voice part. What.

der_ketzer 05/01/2012 12:48 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrRocketGenius (Post 606509)
I was okay reading this until I got to the $100 for voice part. What.

Seriously I would pay that much to rid the world of some of these annoying micspammers.

Harald B 05/01/2012 12:50 pm

Sounds like an April Fools except, yeah...
If this is for real I can't imagine it going on very long before terrible downsides emerge.

Ribs 05/01/2012 01:08 pm

Don't see a single negative.

Vainamoinen 05/01/2012 01:24 pm

They can't train their customers like that - and it fucking isn't their assignment anyway. Some people are just great, but are somehow perceived very differently on the internet. Cliques of jerks have formed and support each other. Casual players, hardly finding the time to play, are at a massive disadvantage.

Seriously, let them try it. Valve has too much of a monopoly anyway. Time to lose some customers. But I guess only one half of that plan will be put into effect (by rewarding some 100 "good" community members with the free game) and the heretic rest of this "idea" will justly vanish off the plate.

der_ketzer 05/01/2012 01:28 pm

We will see how this works out or if it ever will be realised.
Not interested in their multiplayer titles anyways. Also: this will not stop a lot of people. There are players that bought CS 20 times just to cheat again and again.

Also Valve has no monopoly. Not for a very long time now. Just think of Origin, GamersGate, GoG, Battle.net, OnLive...

Vainamoinen 05/01/2012 01:42 pm

ORIGIN IS STILLBORN. Just so we're clear on this. http://www.adventure-treff.de/forum/.../icon_evil.gif

And it's pretty clear that Steam, at the time, has no real competitors.

der_ketzer 05/01/2012 01:45 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vainamoinen (Post 606537)
And it's pretty clear that Steam, at the time, has no real competitors.

And that from you. A faithful GoG customer. :D

Submit to your Digital Distribution Overlords.

http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/t...-overlords.jpg

Vainamoinen 05/01/2012 02:00 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by der_ketzer (Post 606539)

Submit to your Digital Distribution Overlords.

But you still know that this is a bad thing for the customers, right? ;)

der_ketzer 05/01/2012 02:07 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vainamoinen (Post 606548)
But you still know that this is a bad thing for the customers, right? ;)

Of course.
Problem is if the competition is actually worse than Steam that's just unhealthy.
Origin has too high prices, GoG had this horrible marketing gag that made them untrustable for me. Gamersgate & Greenman are making most of their money selling Steam keys so what's the point of those services? Desura seems okay. But they only have indie-titles.

Also there are only few competitors that aren't also selling Steam keys.
(Origin, GoG, TellTale to some extent...)

Gman5852 05/01/2012 02:13 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by der_ketzer (Post 606550)
GoG had this horrible marketing gag that made them untrustable for me.

What was that?

der_ketzer 05/01/2012 02:17 pm

Please don't ask.

in short:

Quote:

Update 3

They are not closing down. This was a PR stunt to launch the service out of beta.

DAISHI 05/01/2012 02:17 pm

I'm not sure what the disgruntlement is about.

Friar 05/01/2012 02:19 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gman5852 (Post 606554)
What was that?

I second this motion for more answers!

JedExodus 05/01/2012 03:35 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vainamoinen (Post 606537)
ORIGIN IS STILLBORN. Just so we're clear on this. http://www.adventure-treff.de/forum/.../icon_evil.gif

And it's pretty clear that Steam, at the time, has no real competitors.

Just because their competion is poor by comparison does not make them a monopoly. You can actually buy games from sources outside Steam and redeem the codes on the service, I don't know how to describe this behaviour, but I certainly wouldn't call it monopolisitic or anti-competitive. Valve pay for bandwidth and see no sales money.

Anyway, we all know that Steam isn't designed to some day take all your games away from you and run away laughing. The benefits it gives smaller developers to be seen and get out there obviously goes without saying.

In short, you are old and stubborn. :p Be trendy and get with the program. ;)

Man. I haven't posted in ages, like anybody noticed.


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:29 pm.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.