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Kaserkin 11/02/2012 12:51 pm

"I don't believe in strength in numbers"
 
So this is my first post on the forum and I wanted to know what you people think of this phrase Christa said in ep3. I think she is kind of right because Lee's group only had problems when they were all together while Omid and Christa handled themselves pretty well.

Wrighty 11/02/2012 12:59 pm

I think they just got really lucky and didnt have to deal with half the crap we did. Think about it, if they ran into some bandits instead of our gang on the train, they would probably have been shot. They were far too trusting and far too quick to accept us into the gang. Im not even sure if they had guns when we first met them and if they did, they should have been pointed at us.

Numbers means that you're group can have a variety of skills. The group with more people is more likely to have doctors, mechanics, fishermen, hunters and simple fighters. Also if you run into a group of bandits, numbers would make a huge difference. Provided you have the right people in you're group and they work together well, the more the merrier.

Also, welcome to the forum :D

Kaserkin 11/02/2012 01:08 pm

Yeah you're right, but still Lee's group is full of people that dislike each other like Lilly and Kenny, while a few people have less problems. But for the fact that they have more skills, the only 2 persons that had some really useful ones (Kat and Doug) are dead.

Rock114 11/02/2012 01:14 pm

The only reason the Macon group didn't work out was because it was split. Kenny and Lilly were each vying for control of the group. If the group had actually been unified, it would probably still be together.

Kaserkin 11/02/2012 01:21 pm

It was split because there were to much people that didn't get along, so I still think she was PARTIALLY right. If the group was smaller, like 4-5 persons, it would have been better.

Wrighty 11/02/2012 01:30 pm

A group of 4-5 sounds about right, but im sure loads of fit capable people still have family or friends that they will not leave behind for anything, so you could really easily go over that number. Lilly had Larry, Kenny and Kat had Duck, Lee has Clementine, ect. Also Kenny is a mechanic/fisherman and Lee is a badass. I think its just unfortunate that TT happened to kill most of the useful people in ep 3.

Kaserkin 11/02/2012 01:39 pm

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Originally Posted by Wrighty (Post 712775)
A group of 4-5 sounds about right, but im sure loads of fit capable people still have family or friends that they will not leave behind for anything, so you could really easily go over that number. Lilly had Larry, Kenny and Kat had Duck, Lee has Clementine, ect. Also Kenny is a mechanic/fisherman and Lee is a badass. I think its just unfortunate that TT happened to kill most of the useful people in ep 3.

Well if I had to choose my I would have stayed with Kenny and family and leave the other guys, it's not that i don't like them, but the relationship between Lee and Larry and between Kenny and Lilly brought more problems than good.

Zeruis 11/02/2012 01:49 pm

Christa says this, yet stays with Lee's group because of Omid's leg. I'm pretty sure that they would survive much longer if they had not found Lee's group.

Oh, and welcome to the forums!

Ninnuendo 11/02/2012 02:50 pm

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Originally Posted by Zeruis (Post 712783)
Christa says this, yet stays with Lee's group because of Omid's leg. I'm pretty sure that they would survive much longer if they had not found Lee's group.

Omid's leg wouldn't have been injured in the first place if they hadn't helped.

I can see the argument for being only 1 or 2, easier to move, less supplies needed, less responsibility. However, I just don't agree with it.
To some extent there is strength in numbers, humans have evolved as social animals because it benefits them. The sheer diversity of skills and amount you can get done within a group greatly helps. The only problem with groups is the social aspect, a well drilled unit with a strong leader is far better off than a couple of people.

Kaserkin 11/02/2012 02:55 pm

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Originally Posted by Ninnuendo (Post 712820)
Omid's leg wouldn't have been injured in the first place if they hadn't helped.

I can see the argument for being only 1 or 2, easier to move, less supplies needed, less responsibility. However, I just don't agree with it.
To some extent there is strength in numbers, humans have evolved as social animals because it benefits them. The sheer diversity of skills and amount you can get done within a group greatly helps. The only problem with groups is the social aspect, a well drilled unit with a strong leader is far better off than a couple of people.

I don't think the group was "a well drilled unit with a strong leader". They are just some random people who stumbled in each other and they didn't collaborate enough to become an efficent group.

IndigoHawk 11/02/2012 05:26 pm

Yes ... it's interesting that Omid and Christa said that people were better on their own and then immediately recanted when faced with unexpected tragedy. Suddenly they wanted society (Lee's group) to step in and provide healthcare, free of charge.

Is it a joke about hypocrisy, about people who claim to be self sufficient because they don't have enough imagination to envision a situation where they would need help?

Or is the joke that Omid and Christa would have been fine if they hadn't compromised their self sufficiency by helping Lee's group?

KingOfTheDead 11/02/2012 05:29 pm

Yea lees group is a conduit for bad luck

aperose 11/04/2012 11:50 am

I think Omid and Christa were probably discussing joining a group because of the fact that she's pregnant and they will need more protection. I think it's pretty shitty that they are hiding it from the group though (especially after acting all indignant that Lee/Kenny don't tell them about the walkie at first). Probably after Crawford Christa is rethinking how someone like Kenny may respond to a baby (hint: probably a lot like he responded to a dying/dead Larry)

thestalkinghead 11/04/2012 11:56 am

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Originally Posted by aperose (Post 714738)
I think Omid and Christa were probably discussing joining a group because of the fact that she's pregnant and they will need more protection. I think it's pretty shitty that they are hiding it from the group though (especially after acting all indignant that Lee/Kenny don't tell them about the walkie at first). Probably after Crawford Christa is rethinking how someone like Kenny may respond to a baby (hint: probably a lot like he responded to a dying/dead Larry)

no way Kenny is a family man, he may not love the idea but he would tell her/make her have some kind of abortion, but sure it would be a tough situation to bring up for anybody in a ZA

KingOfTheDead 11/04/2012 11:57 am

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Originally Posted by thestalkinghead (Post 714747)
no way Kenny is a family man, he may not love the idea but he would tell her/make her have some kind of abortion, but sure it would be a tough situation to bring up for anybody in a ZA

no kenny would throw her down the stairs.

thestalkinghead 11/04/2012 12:15 pm

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Originally Posted by KingOfTheDead (Post 714748)
no kenny would throw her down the stairs.

he may not be your bro but he isn't evil

KingOfTheDead 11/04/2012 12:32 pm

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Originally Posted by thestalkinghead (Post 714787)
he may not be your bro but he isn't evil

he is my brohttp://pewdiepie.net/wcf/images/phot...5-6fbfb121.jpg

thestalkinghead 11/04/2012 12:34 pm

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Originally Posted by KingOfTheDead (Post 714819)

look at him, how could this family loving man ever hurt a pregnant woman

Cyreen 11/04/2012 12:45 pm

I think Omid and Christa had the right idea to begin with, but caved to fear over Christa's condition (and while my Kenny may be a bit of a wanker, no I don't think he'd pull an Oberson on Christa).

Me personally, I'd be doing a Molly.

KingOfTheDead 11/04/2012 12:48 pm

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Originally Posted by thestalkinghead (Post 714820)
look at him, how could this family loving man ever hurt a pregnant woman

but thats a chibi kenny


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