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Killer Walrus
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Tulsa, OK, USA
Posts: 4,061
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Originally Posted by Blackthorne519
Of course some Holy Book written by man is going to say "I am the only way to [The Lord]". Basically, "My Way or the highway." You know, because screw all those people that lived for thousands of years before.... Yahweh didn't feel like talking to them.
You can quote a book all you want, but it doesn't mean it's right.
When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
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Such rules were developed as Israel was establishing itself--they were made so that Moses didn't have to make decisions about every dispute. These many, many (admittedly strange) rules were not handed down by God. In fact, Jesus chastized the Pharisees because they held too much to the letter of the law (and how they cared more for their own outward appearances than for God or for other people) rather than to pursue a relationship with God.
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Mark 7:6-13
So the Pharisees and teachers of the law asked Jesus, “Why don’t your disciples live according to the tradition of the elders instead of eating their food with defiled hands?”
He replied, “Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you hypocrites; as it is written:
“‘These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. They worship me in vain; their teachings are merely human rules.’
You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions.”
And he continued, “You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe your own traditions! For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and mother,’ and, ‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.’ But you say that if anyone declares that what might have been used to help their father or mother is Corban (that is, devoted to God)— then you no longer let them do anything for their father or mother. Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like that.”
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Originally Posted by Blackthorne519
Ephesians 6:5-9: "Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ; Not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart; With good will doing service, as to the Lord, and not to men: Knowing that whatsoever good thing any man doeth, the same shall he receive of the Lord, whether he be bond or free. And, ye masters, do the same things unto them, forbearing threatening: knowing that your Master also is in heaven; neither is there respect of persons with him."
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I often can't understand KJV very easily. Also, I have heard that it is not as accurate in its translation as other, more recent translations. As such, I like NIV better:
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Ephesians 6:5-9
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not people, because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free.
And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him.
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Originally Posted by Hayden
If you dtont have anything to say doont sa y anthing at all
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Last edited by Chyron8472; 04/08/2012 at 08:32 pm.
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