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blueskirt · 04/19/2012, 06:06 pm

@ MusicallyInspired, BagginsKQ, thom-22

I don't know but the way I see it, the reason why LucasArts communities went thru the sky while most Sierra communities crash and burned is because of this network and unity among LucasArts fans, from Star Wars to Indiana Jones to adventure games and Double Fine and Telltale and Autumn Moon, they've reached critical mass and now have so many implicated contributors and fan material creators that their machine is self reliant, they create so much that more fans join their forums than fans leave it.

Sierra instead needed a dedicated forum for every Sierra related site and project, and every time a site stopped being updated or a project was canceled or completed, everyone went home. No critical mass achieved. And now Tim and Ron could overfund their adventure games projects forever* while people like Al, Leslie, Josh and Jane can barely make it past their Kickstarter goal in the same span of time, and I think that's partly because we lack the machine LucasArts fans have.

Just because we're scared of mixing together fans of Larry and fans of King's Quest, even if most of them like more than one series, myself I grew up playing Police Quest I, Space Quest III, Gold Rush and Conquests Of Camelot on my dad's knees, I was a total fanboy of Goblins and Incredible Machine during my childhood, I played the crap out of Castle Of Dr Brain, EcoQuest, Blue Force and VGA Space Quest and King's Quest games with my cousin, I was grounded for blowing up our monthly thirty hours "bandwidth" limit because I spend a whole night pirating early Police Quest and King's Quest games when we got the internet, I got hooked to Leisure Suit Larry and Quest For Glory during my teenage years, I discovered and played them remakes and fan games, I tried to finish both Gabriel Knight and Laura Bow three times without succeeding in between all this mess, in the last years I got around to play Pepper's Adventure In Time and Conquests For The Longbow, Return of the Incredible Machine for the first time ever, I've watched Sierra Let's Play myself to sleep for a whole year now, and I'm currently playing The Black Cauldron and Vohaul Strikes Back and I've had a blast all these years, and I know I'm not alone.

I don't even identify myself as a King's Quest fan, there's plenty of other Sierra titles and series I loved much more yet I still find myself lurking on King's Quest related sites and forums, including this very forum, late at night reading posts and articles because I like Sierra as a whole. I like reading and talking about it and its games.

And I discover the SpaceQuest.net revival project and all I see is squandered potential because, damn, that site was so damn awesome and informative and so well edited and friggin' entertaining and and all I can think of is why not expend it to cover every damn Sierra, Dynamix, Coktel, fan games and former Sierra employees titles, give these fine games the SpaceQuest.net treatment, with scans of official hint books, box art, manuals, soundtrack, easter eggs, cameos, death lists, FAQs, behind the scene tidbits and interviews, it would be just like the LucasArts Secret History craze, except with Sierra.

Why do I have to check a dozen different forums to keep up with Sierra related news when we could have a site dedicated to all thing Sierra, for both official and fan related news, gather every Sierra fans under in one forum, reach critical mass, get the machine running and discuss and create and celebrate Sierra games like we did in the good old days. Such project would have a tremendous impact on the Sierra community as a whole, and unlike a fan game, it's not something contributors and editors would work on for a decade in secret, it's something that would be updated constantly and fan reaction would be instantaneous.

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Anyway, I think my point has been made, if there was one in the first place. I'm spending ways too much time reading about games and not enough time actually playing them these days, so this will be the last time I'll bring up that subject.

By the way, MusicallyInspired or Collector, since I can't be arsed to register on a forum for a single post and since I have Vohaul Strikes Back to finish, one of you gotta convince Frans of SpaceQuest.net to give fan material, (that means fan games but also noteworthy Let's Play, fan arts, articles, analysis, retrospectives, interviews, like the one Josh Mandel had with Matt Chat...) the coverage and treatment they're due on his site, to help spreading the word about them and encourage creative people to create more otherwise as soon he'll be done with his site update and run out of the official material, the Space Quest community will crash and burn once again.

* It's no jealousy, I can't wait to play Double Fine Adventure, I just wish the future Space Quest, Leisure Suit Larry, Police Quest and Quest For Glory games have the same production values as Double Fine Adventure.

04/19/2012, 06:06 pm	#56
blueskirt Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 30	@ MusicallyInspired, BagginsKQ, thom-22 I don't know but the way I see it, the reason why LucasArts communities went thru the sky while most Sierra communities crash and burned is because of this network and unity among LucasArts fans, from Star Wars to Indiana Jones to adventure games and Double Fine and Telltale and Autumn Moon, they've reached critical mass and now have so many implicated contributors and fan material creators that their machine is self reliant, they create so much that more fans join their forums than fans leave it. Sierra instead needed a dedicated forum for every Sierra related site and project, and every time a site stopped being updated or a project was canceled or completed, everyone went home. No critical mass achieved. And now Tim and Ron could overfund their adventure games projects forever* while people like Al, Leslie, Josh and Jane can barely make it past their Kickstarter goal in the same span of time, and I think that's partly because we lack the machine LucasArts fans have. Just because we're scared of mixing together fans of Larry and fans of King's Quest, even if most of them like more than one series, myself I grew up playing Police Quest I, Space Quest III, Gold Rush and Conquests Of Camelot on my dad's knees, I was a total fanboy of Goblins and Incredible Machine during my childhood, I played the crap out of Castle Of Dr Brain, EcoQuest, Blue Force and VGA Space Quest and King's Quest games with my cousin, I was grounded for blowing up our monthly thirty hours "bandwidth" limit because I spend a whole night pirating early Police Quest and King's Quest games when we got the internet, I got hooked to Leisure Suit Larry and Quest For Glory during my teenage years, I discovered and played them remakes and fan games, I tried to finish both Gabriel Knight and Laura Bow three times without succeeding in between all this mess, in the last years I got around to play Pepper's Adventure In Time and Conquests For The Longbow, Return of the Incredible Machine for the first time ever, I've watched Sierra Let's Play myself to sleep for a whole year now, and I'm currently playing The Black Cauldron and Vohaul Strikes Back and I've had a blast all these years, and I know I'm not alone. I don't even identify myself as a King's Quest fan, there's plenty of other Sierra titles and series I loved much more yet I still find myself lurking on King's Quest related sites and forums, including this very forum, late at night reading posts and articles because I like Sierra as a whole. I like reading and talking about it and its games. And I discover the SpaceQuest.net revival project and all I see is squandered potential because, damn, that site was so damn awesome and informative and so well edited and friggin' entertaining and and all I can think of is why not expend it to cover every damn Sierra, Dynamix, Coktel, fan games and former Sierra employees titles, give these fine games the SpaceQuest.net treatment, with scans of official hint books, box art, manuals, soundtrack, easter eggs, cameos, death lists, FAQs, behind the scene tidbits and interviews, it would be just like the LucasArts Secret History craze, except with Sierra. Why do I have to check a dozen different forums to keep up with Sierra related news when we could have a site dedicated to all thing Sierra, for both official and fan related news, gather every Sierra fans under in one forum, reach critical mass, get the machine running and discuss and create and celebrate Sierra games like we did in the good old days. Such project would have a tremendous impact on the Sierra community as a whole, and unlike a fan game, it's not something contributors and editors would work on for a decade in secret, it's something that would be updated constantly and fan reaction would be instantaneous. [/rambling] Anyway, I think my point has been made, if there was one in the first place. I'm spending ways too much time reading about games and not enough time actually playing them these days, so this will be the last time I'll bring up that subject. By the way, MusicallyInspired or Collector, since I can't be arsed to register on a forum for a single post and since I have Vohaul Strikes Back to finish, one of you gotta convince Frans of SpaceQuest.net to give fan material, (that means fan games but also noteworthy Let's Play, fan arts, articles, analysis, retrospectives, interviews, like the one Josh Mandel had with Matt Chat...) the coverage and treatment they're due on his site, to help spreading the word about them and encourage creative people to create more otherwise as soon he'll be done with his site update and run out of the official material, the Space Quest community will crash and burn once again. * It's no jealousy, I can't wait to play Double Fine Adventure, I just wish the future Space Quest, Leisure Suit Larry, Police Quest and Quest For Glory games have the same production values as Double Fine Adventure.