[CapnJay]

Originally Posted by Death689God

I have, but back to the point before. There's a difference between hope and fools hope. If you're in it for the long haul, that is to say you're planning for future generations as well, it's natural to have some hope humanity will make it through. The Saint John's and Bandits ARE NOT in it for the long haul. They're very short term, day to day, survival instinct based. They're prepared to live, but they're not long term strategists. (The Saint John's never even keep women around to continue on the family line, and the Bandits have been shown to turn on eachother for the simplest of reasons)

Just because the army won't come in and put things back to the way they were with magic, doesn't mean civilization dies. It simply means civilization as it was does. Tribal civilizations (Zulu, Apache, Celts, etc.) all had Civilization, perhaps not civilized by our standards. But they're a lot closer to what the people of this new world will need... Survivalism, Brutality, Cold-Logic, this doesn't mean you can't be civilized. It just means what you consider "civilized" has to change, as it always has. Civilization is a product of humanity, not the other way around, it changes when we will it to.

i'd like to see or read i should say your idea of the next civilization since each one builds on the achievements of the past and becomes greater then the one before it. But with the walker "virus" not having been cured.