[YamiRaziel]

Originally Posted by Rommel49

Dealing with the bandits is a no go, period. We know what kind of people they are - they rape and murder, lying is hardly a big leap. Look at the last person who tried dealing with them; Jolene begged them "every way she could" for her daughter and it got her nowhere. Even if they gave me proof of life I'd be more inclined to either poison anything I gave them. I know I'm not getting my friend or Clem back whether I deal with them or not, the best I can do is avenge them.

A captive only gives them leverage if you let it, and once you do, they always have that leverage. Considering that the bandits are known for little things like rape, odds are any captive they have would probably prefer to be dead anyway.

I wouldn't need Lilly to agree if I thought Larry was turning. We already know as much.

Kenny had no reason to suspect things were better in Macon though; the town's clearly in bad shape even before we see Walkers. Kenny wasn't that quiet in the slaughter room either, considering he's audible a room over - even Lee can make the observation that Kenny might get them killed. Kenny makes zero effort to even isolate his kid from the other survivors; it wasn't "oh he couldn't convince her", he couldn't convince himself - Katjaa had the good sense to know when Duck was basically out of time, it's Kenny that won't stop the train on his own (and we can see what happens if Kenny isn't convinced to stop, it results in the deaths of pretty much the entire group).

I agree with everything you said man. There is only one way to deal with bandits in ZA/post-apocalyptic world