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Old 10/29/2012, 07:45 pm   #30
IndigoHawk
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Originally Posted by Wrighty View Post
Killing someone who might be a threat isn't necessarily a bad thing. He was looking out for his family, not like he smashed Larry's head in for the hell of it.
Also when does he murder someone for revenge? Can't think of anyone.
Sure he abandoned you're Lee's Clem, but think about what he's gone through. Lost his entire family and was under stress since episode 1. He was the one constantly pushing for the group to leave and get a boat, fighting Lilly tooth and nail. The boat becomes all that he has left and he concentrates on it fully. Finally it arrives and they get the stuff and BAM. Clem kidnapped and now you have the choice of risking the last hurdle and going on a stupid suicide mission or guarding the boat. Add the fact he hates your Lee and its easy to see why he didn't help.

If by "paying your dues" you mean not makin stupid decisions that risk his family then sure. Besides you don't have to back him up on everything, just Larry where it matters. And family comes first for Kenny. Its completely natural. You thin Lilly doesn't put her dad above everyone else? I saw a poll where people said they would let everyone else in the group die before Clem. Also Kenny is one of the few people to have lost what he did in the game. Lilly is the only one like him and she went crazy.

You make it sound like Kenny enjoyed doing what he did and jus needed a reason and that's pretty obviously wrong. Did you see his face after Larry. He does like to have someone with him when he makes the bad and hard choices and I don't mind. Finally you call him a monster for wanting Ben dead. The guys family died like a few days ago, and Ben stands up and admits its his fault. Of course he wants him dead! Loads of people wanted him dead for what happened to Carely and we didn't know her that well
Hmm, let me try again. Kenny isn't driven by a sense of right or wrong. He's driven by protecting his own, as you say, and I agree that other characters put their family first, too. However, Kenny's the kind of guy who always has an excuse for why he has to do the wrong thing, instead of the guy who finds a reason to do the right thing. That's what I mean when I say that Kenny has no moral compass and is in danger of becoming a monster, especially now that he doesn't have his family (and Katjaa in particular) to be his conscience.

Kenny is the type of person who says ...
... we have to let the girl be eaten alive by zombies BECAUSE it's too dangerous
... we have to kill Larry BECAUSE there's too much risk
... we have to steal these supplies BECAUSE we have to survive

Kenny sees the necessity in doing harm to others.
Also, think about Kenny's boat plan. Kenny was upfront with Lee from the very beginning that maybe not everyone would fit on the boat. Does Kenny care that people will be left behind to die? Maybe, but that's not what's important to him, as long as his family is taken care of.

So, if the boat had been there and there wasn't enough room, Kenny would have decided
... we have to leave people behind BECAUSE they won't fit on the boat

See? Kenny always finds an excuse to do the wrong thing. He is loyal to those he cares about, but always makes sure that a couple people are defined outside his group, so that he knows who to throw under the bus if the time comes.

I think that since Kenny is so tribalistic that he will only descend further into violence as he finds more and more reasons why the needs of his tribe necessitate doing the wrong thing by other people.

Put another way, imagine if Kenny had the St Johns farm. I think Kenny would cannibalize people BECAUSE that's what he needed to do for his family.

I think some of the other characters at this point still try to do the right thing, while Kenny increasingly does the wrong thing and justifies it. If he's already fallen this far in a couple months, how much worse will he get? In some playthroughs, he's already a danger to Clem:
... we have to leave Clem behind BECAUSE the boat is more important

Fortunately he's not as far gone as that in everyone's playthrough, but I don't think Kenny has enough moral fiber to last much longer without being an outright danger to people in the group.
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