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Old 11/28/2012, 11:31 am   #182
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So stop justifying this lazy ending by saying that it's what could really happen in a Zombie outbreak.
Didn't.

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The fanboys of the game will just yell "Artistic" and "OMG it's the Zombie Apocalypse, things don't always happen like they should".
Artistic approaches can be attacked and defended. They can be poorly executed or pretentious. You can argue that. In no way was 'artistic' ever meant as a killer argument. Also, define "should".

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...and no Hollywood film would ever accept this kind of ending. Show me a movie where the final confrontation is significantly easier and less involved than the conflicts earlier in the movie. Did Luke Skywalker board the Death Star for the second time and slice Darth Vaders head off while he's taking a shower? No, he didn't. The build up to the final meeting between them two led to an actual epic moment, not an extremely short sequence where an Ewok hits Vader in the head with a wine bottle....
I did not interpret the Stranger as "the boss battle". And I would have been disappointed if they just set this up as a 'video game' ending this way. The narrative meaning of the stranger was to make clear to Lee that whatever decisions he made, he always hurt someone with it. Now I don't believe that this was particularly necessary at this point of the game, nor all too well executed. But just more lame QTEs for the boss fight(s) just to reach another level of 'epic' really wouldn't have cut it ('press Q so Clementine can escape' - thank yooo, pas de interest). The climax was supposed to be the very quiet moments with the Stranger and Lee's death, not the power of a poor deluded man who was robbed of his entire family. Lee has taken plenty of brave steps towards saving Clementine, but he was also violently ill and weakened at the end. You wanted him to die standing; but if the designers wanted to focus on his lingering infection and his battle against it, that's not what they'd do.

Luke Skywalker did not "board" the Death Star. He was taken there. He never fought the emperor. There was indeed a fight between him and his father, even an epic one. But his arch enemy was more or less just kicked down a shaft, and certainly not by Luke himself! But you're right to assume that Episode VI was indeed about the final confrontation between Vader and Luke, while TWD Season 1 clearly was not about Lee vs. the Stranger.

If you're looking for movies with toned down or "easier" conflicts in the ending, you may look towards a whole lot of coming of age movies, where the abilities and self confidence of the protagonist have risen through experience to such a degree that the central conflict, the one that defined her/him in the beginning, can actually be solved with a snap, maybe a sharp word towards a former figure of authority; and you can look towards a whole lot of other movies where the final conflict, the one everyone fears, turns out to more or less solve itself ("Little Miss Sunshine" among them; which is especially interesting in light of your Star Wars comparison because the script writer of that movie will also do Episode VII).
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