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Old 11/30/2012, 06:09 pm   #67
Kiel555
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Originally Posted by Doctanian View Post
Now that I think about it.

I mean, she provoked the fuck out of Lilly. Yes, she was defending Ben and Lilly was going crazy, but if she had just shut the fuck up, Lee probably could've defused the situation (if you're defending Ben). Lee's been able to keep the peace (for the most part) between Kenny and Lilly, so at that critical moment, it was probably best for her to stay out of it. She knew Lilly lost her dad, she knew Lilly was the one holding the group together and therefore took all the pressures. If it wasn't for Lilly sniping, everyone would've been executed at the motel by the bandits.

#TeamLilly

Fuck Carley, God I miss Lilly.
Although I do agree with you, I think your being unnecessarily harsh towards Carley. That was an extremely stressful situation and everyone has their breaking points. The damage was already done and the fate of the group sealed long before that flight from the motel in the RV.

The blame for the destruction of our group is with Kenny. He consistently undermined Lilly's leadership of the group, murdered her father, hid the murder as best he could from the group, and proposed a plan of action that he knew was doomed to failure.

Lilly deserves praise for all she did for the group. Especially in the aftermath of her father's murder. Carley should have picked a side as Lee did and support Lilly and her plan. Lilly admitted that the motel was not a permanent solution and that eventually we would have to leave but not until we were forced to. This makes sense if you think about it. It's winter time. Maybe wait till the spring before breaking camp. Maybe have a plan as to where you plan to go to next rather than just hope for the best and hit the road.

Kenny had no plan. Best I could tell, he wanted to go to the coast and look for a boat, in the winter, in an RV that does not work and with no supplies.

Although the meat locker incident was damaging to group harmony, I think more damage was caused by Kenny undermining Lilly as leader of our group. Having a prominent group member constantly disagreeing with the leader is not good for group morale. It erodes confidence and increases fears that your safety is at risk. Could motivate someone to do something stupid.

Alright, anymore and I'll have to post this on the Lilly appreciation thread or the fuck Kenny thread so I'll stop here.

I miss Lilly too.

Last edited by Kiel555; 11/30/2012 at 06:15 pm.
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