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Old 12/28/2012, 05:59 pm   #53
Giant Tope
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Originally Posted by Chyron8472 View Post
As I said, there is no point to following the rules for their own sake.

And I defy the argument that people would do just fine on their own moral-compass-wise without God. Sure, there are people who are of sound conscience that have no belief, but I would bet that such people are unknowingly influenced toward having said conscience by others around them who do have faith.
...What about my grandparents who are Buddhists/Taoist/ancestor worshipers who live in a country were Christianity is a tiny minority who believe in being good for the sake of humanity and not to appease a western god? Even growing up as Christian I never thought God was necessary for people to be good. I'm fine with you being Christian, I really am, but you should move outside your American-centric mindset because the world is a lot bigger than you seem to imply.

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I defy these people to prove to me how being without God has benefited them.
I've personally benefited from knowing that there isn't someone constantly breathing down my back as well as the idea that I am 100% responsible for myself. I don't have to anguish or rationalize why a supposedly all-powerful benevolent God would allow absolute atrocities occur then feel obligated to worship such a God regardless.

You have a very depressing view of the world if you think people are completely incapable of being good without an outside force.
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