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Marduk · 06/06/2009, 03:46 pm

I do not want to re-ignite that whole 'paganism' thing, here.

I think a lot of people have been reading into that and making assumptions when they should really wait until that episode is released and we can see what it means for ourselves. (Remember; never ‘Assume’, it makes an ‘Ass’ out of ‘u’ and ‘me’).

Anyways, I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere, yet, so I figured I'd point it out myself.

In EMI (I slightly dislike that abbreviation and anything that makes me think about major record labels) there was a deranged ghost who had come to see LeChuck in a slightly absurd way and started a church in his name. The whole thing looked not completely unlike many Christian chapels, except for a lava 'flume' ride that went right through it (which served as part of the wedding service where LeChuck was to marry Elaine). Guybrush was even considered to be the "Anti-LeChuck". (There was a bit of recurring theme that nobody would believe that Guybrush was who he said he was, usually because he didn't meet their descriptions).

Mike Haley · 06/06/2009, 03:51 pm

This really needs to end. Has everyone already forgotten about Sam & Max 205: What's New, Beelzebub? Last time I checked, Satan was in the game. I don't remember this much of a ruckus when that first came out. It's just a video game.

Marduk · 06/06/2009, 03:55 pm

I thought speculating on a logical reason for the title was at least more constructive...

Mike Haley · 06/06/2009, 03:57 pm

Sure, but it always seems to lead to a religious debate, and that does not make the moderator gods happy.

Also, nice avatar.

Secret Fawful · 06/06/2009, 03:59 pm

No, it'll remain civil as long as nobody is going crazy over it. We need to all remember that anything in the game is there for the sake of tasteful humor. Marduk's theory is rational and I don't see where it would offend anybody.

Armakuni · 06/06/2009, 04:02 pm

Hahaha, this is the weirdest stuff I've seen in a long time.

Who the hell cares if there is god in the title

It's so ridiculous, haha

Mike Haley · 06/06/2009, 04:32 pm

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Originally Posted by Secret Fawful

No, it'll remain civil as long as nobody is going crazy over it. We need to all remember that anything in the game is there for the sake of tasteful humor. Marduk's theory is rational and I don't see where it would offend anybody.

Okay, for the sake of tasteful humor, let us consider the fact that Guybrush cannot die in Monkey Island. This begs the question, is he a god?

PS. I know about the joke that spoofs the Save/Restore/Quit screen found in many Sierra games.

LuigiHann · 06/06/2009, 04:52 pm

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Originally Posted by mhaley

This begs the question, is he a god?

You better be careful what you say; The only thing more painful than an online discussion about religion is an online discussion about grammar/vocabulary as they apply to phrases like "begs the question"

Secret Fawful · 06/06/2009, 05:04 pm

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Originally Posted by mhaley

Okay, for the sake of tasteful humor, let us consider the fact that Guybrush cannot die in Monkey Island. This begs the question, is he a god?

PS. I know about the joke that spoofs the Save/Restore/Quit screen found in many Sierra games.

He died in CMI.

Mike Haley · 06/06/2009, 05:08 pm

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Originally Posted by Secret Fawful

He died in CMI.

Yeah, but he is resurrected soon after. All praise our lord and savior, Guybrush Threepwood.

By the way, that is one of the funniest moments in CMI (spoilers, obviously):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rREKIPsDi6g

thesporkman · 06/06/2009, 05:55 pm

I thought the Flying Spaghetti Monster was the pirate god?

tredlow · 06/06/2009, 10:17 pm

In my opinion, they're saying 'Pirate God' like how they would call a rock star a 'Rock God'.

PariahKing · 06/06/2009, 10:20 pm

As a (very) conservative Christian, I was not offended by the God title. I did not even pause. There's a difference between mocking God and referencing a fictional God - unless you have zero discerning abilities, "god" being in the title of a video game has no danger whatsoever.

lmi · 06/07/2009, 04:49 am

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Originally Posted by Marduk

I'm sorry, Ixi, it was childish of me to make this thread.

actually, im honoured. 2 days on this forum got me so popular, that there was a whole thread started in my name))))) oh, and its LMI.

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Originally Posted by Marduk

I think a lot of people have been reading into that

im glad that my posts got peoples thoughts steering in the right direction.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mhaley

It's just a video game.

well, to me (at least) its much more than that!..

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Originally Posted by Secret Fawful

We need to all remember that anything in the game is there for the sake of tasteful humor.

im sorry for popping out again on this topic. but what possible funny scenario can u imagine by the phrase "rise of the pirate god" this reminds me of a title "hitler - the rise of evil". nothing funny... at all. actually, it even sounds serious. thats what makes me really upset bout it.

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Originally Posted by Armakuni

Who the hell cares if there is god in the title

at least 4 ppl in this forum do. though, im sure thered b much, much more, had the poll been left open.

Shiversul · 06/07/2009, 04:58 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by mhaley

Yeah, but he is resurrected soon after. All praise our lord and savior, Guybrush Threepwood.

By the way, that is one of the funniest moments in CMI (spoilers, obviously):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rREKIPsDi6g

In that he states that he isnt a real person

Which means the consequences of Life and Death do not apply to him
He is not a god
he is a video game character

Bagge · 06/07/2009, 05:20 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by lmi

im sorry for popping out again on this topic. but what possible funny scenario can u imagine by the phrase "rise of the pirate god" this reminds me of a title "hitler - the rise of evil". nothing funny... at all. actually, it even sounds serious. thats what makes me really upset bout it.

I truly believe you are a troll, and that you are only saying these things to get attention.

turingmachine604 · 06/07/2009, 11:00 am

@lmi

I really don't see how you can be offended by the title.

Obviously, I don't know all the details so I have to assume some details...

Okay first, seeing as LeChuck regularly practices Voodoo and has been a ghost/zombie/demon I think it's safe to assume LeChuck is NOT a practicing Christian.

So if the title refers to LeChuck... in his belief system he has become a pirate God. Since he isn't Christian, this in no way competes with the Christian concept of God, nor does it say anything about the Christian God. Additionally, since it is his belief system it in no way means you have to accept it as him becoming a god.

It's exactly the same as you meeting a practicing Hindu in real life, and you being offended because they call something a god and they worship that god. You don't have to agree with them or accept their beliefs, but it is entirely wrong of you to be offended at that.

You said, in another post, that people should be free to have whatever religious beliefs they want. So... why can't LeChuck have his own religious beliefs?

LuigiHann · 06/07/2009, 11:00 am

Think less of scary pagan god concepts, and more of C-3PO in a flying chair in Return of the Jedi, and you'll probably be fine

Armakuni · 06/07/2009, 11:12 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by lmi

at least 4 ppl in this forum do. though, im sure thered b much, much more, had the poll been left open.

Why? I don't get it. What's wrong with using god in a title?

MusicallyInspired · 06/07/2009, 11:35 am

This is stupid.

06/06/2009, 03:46 pm	#1
Marduk Chimes in once in a while Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Wales Posts: 352	Possible explanation to the 'Pirate God' thing I do not want to re-ignite that whole 'paganism' thing, here. I think a lot of people have been reading into that and making assumptions when they should really wait until that episode is released and we can see what it means for ourselves. (Remember; never ‘Assume’, it makes an ‘Ass’ out of ‘u’ and ‘me’). Anyways, I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere, yet, so I figured I'd point it out myself. In EMI (I slightly dislike that abbreviation and anything that makes me think about major record labels) there was a deranged ghost who had come to see LeChuck in a slightly absurd way and started a church in his name. The whole thing looked not completely unlike many Christian chapels, except for a lava 'flume' ride that went right through it (which served as part of the wedding service where LeChuck was to marry Elaine). Guybrush was even considered to be the "Anti-LeChuck". (There was a bit of recurring theme that nobody would believe that Guybrush was who he said he was, usually because he didn't meet their descriptions).

06/06/2009, 03:57 pm	#4
Mike Haley Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 367	Sure, but it always seems to lead to a religious debate, and that does not make the moderator gods happy. Also, nice avatar. Last edited by Mike Haley; 06/06/2009 at 04:01 pm.

06/06/2009, 10:17 pm	#12
tredlow Has Possum Powers. Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,536	In my opinion, they're saying 'Pirate God' like how they would call a rock star a 'Rock God'. __________________ My Friend: You know, if only Bruce Wayne was bit by a radioactive psychiatrist rather than a bat, Gotham wouldn't even need Arkham Asylum. Me: Haha, yeah. That's true. Minutes Later Me: Wait, Bruce Wayne was never bit by a radioactive anything.

06/07/2009, 11:00 am	#17
turingmachine604 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: The Future Posts: 192	@lmi I really don't see how you can be offended by the title. Obviously, I don't know all the details so I have to assume some details... Okay first, seeing as LeChuck regularly practices Voodoo and has been a ghost/zombie/demon I think it's safe to assume LeChuck is NOT a practicing Christian. So if the title refers to LeChuck... in his belief system he has become a pirate God. Since he isn't Christian, this in no way competes with the Christian concept of God, nor does it say anything about the Christian God. Additionally, since it is his belief system it in no way means you have to accept it as him becoming a god. It's exactly the same as you meeting a practicing Hindu in real life, and you being offended because they call something a god and they worship that god. You don't have to agree with them or accept their beliefs, but it is entirely wrong of you to be offended at that. You said, in another post, that people should be free to have whatever religious beliefs they want. So... why can't LeChuck have his own religious beliefs? Last edited by turingmachine604; 06/07/2009 at 11:06 am.

06/07/2009, 11:00 am	#18
LuigiHann Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,659	Think less of scary pagan god concepts, and more of C-3PO in a flying chair in Return of the Jedi, and you'll probably be fine __________________ "I think it's the idea that counts, not the actual method. As long as you set out to cause a horrible death through insects eating the person, you're good." - apenpaap

06/06/2009, 03:51 pm	#2
Mike Haley Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 367	This really needs to end. Has everyone already forgotten about Sam & Max 205: What's New, Beelzebub? Last time I checked, Satan was in the game. I don't remember this much of a ruckus when that first came out. It's just a video game.

06/06/2009, 03:55 pm	#3
Marduk Chimes in once in a while Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Wales Posts: 352	I thought speculating on a logical reason for the title was at least more constructive...

06/06/2009, 03:59 pm	#5
Secret Fawful Fearless Oathbreaker Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Stuck In This Pose Sexiness: Off The Charts! Posts: 5,136	No, it'll remain civil as long as nobody is going crazy over it. We need to all remember that anything in the game is there for the sake of tasteful humor. Marduk's theory is rational and I don't see where it would offend anybody.

06/06/2009, 04:02 pm	#6
Armakuni Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Amigastan Posts: 966	Hahaha, this is the weirdest stuff I've seen in a long time. Who the hell cares if there is god in the title It's so ridiculous, haha

06/06/2009, 05:55 pm	#11
thesporkman Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 952	I thought the Flying Spaghetti Monster was the pirate god?

06/06/2009, 10:20 pm	#13
PariahKing I Have Arrived Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,327	As a (very) conservative Christian, I was not offended by the God title. I did not even pause. There's a difference between mocking God and referencing a fictional God - unless you have zero discerning abilities, "god" being in the title of a video game has no danger whatsoever.

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