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Wolfstar27 · 07/03/2009, 05:54 am

Interesting Question i thought that,ive seen Monkey Island progress from the first one towards the lastest one, and it has progressed Monkey Island as a more cartoony look and the revamping the first Monkey Island theyve made it also into a cartoon look (the characters ),do you think Monkey Island would be always portrayed as a Cartoon styled game?, Monkey Island 2 is slighty darker (remember the part where you see guybrushs parents skeletons in the lost and found) now people who have grown up with Monkey Island from the first one are slighty abit older now.

after seeing this sketch, i thought it could have a darker look and still maintain its humour (things dont have to be cartoony to be funny)

http://www.worldofmi.com/images/categories/19/Cap.jpg

what are your opinions guys?

PariahKing · 07/03/2009, 05:55 am

I think ToMI will be sufficiently dark.

Haggis · 07/03/2009, 05:56 am

Well, why couldn't one of the episodes be set in a dark environment, a bit like Blood Island in CMI? That wouldn't really surprise me, and I think it's achievable, even in a "cartoony" style.

Toothless Gibbon · 07/03/2009, 05:59 am

To reinterate what I and others have said on other threads, I beleive it to have always been cartoony.

I think if they could have made the original look a bit more like the special edition at the time they would have done.

SurplusGamer · 07/03/2009, 06:01 am

I talked about this in another thread a bit but it bears mentioning again:

In a podcast I listened to I think it was Mike Stemmle who mentioned there is a thematic change from day to night as the series goes on, and Jake mentioned somewhere that it's surprising how much the mood changes over the course of the series, too.

So, I suspect that you'll get what you are looking for from Tales of Monkey Island, and it looks like a lot of the darker stuff in the game occurs in the latter half of the series.

On a different note, if you really look at the MI1/2 graphics, it has always been a rather cartoony game, rather than a realistic-looking game. It's just that the art styles were a little different and perhaps more subtle in the first two games.

Scrawffler · 07/03/2009, 06:03 am

Hmm... Tim Burton-esque styles spring to mind.

But still, like PK mentioned TOMI could indeed turn out to be quite dark. Things don't have to be cartoony to be funny, quite right there. But also, things don't have to be constantly light-hearted just because they look cartoony. Guess we'll have to wait and see!

MusicallyInspired · 07/03/2009, 12:46 pm

Ack! Keep Tim Burton far far away from Monkey Island! I can't stand the guy. He ruins everything he touches. Except Batman '89.

Scapetti · 07/03/2009, 01:25 pm

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Originally Posted by MusicallyInspired

Ack! Keep Tim Burton far far away from Monkey Island! I can't stand the guy. He ruins everything he touches. Except Batman '89.

Oh he's good really... he just shouldn't be allowed to make remakes (Planet of the Apes, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory)

Threepwood4Life · 07/03/2009, 01:48 pm

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Originally Posted by MusicallyInspired

Ack! Keep Tim Burton far far away from Monkey Island! I can't stand the guy. He ruins everything he touches. Except Batman '89.

If he got his hands on it He'll make his chum Johnny Depp Guybrush and his own wife Helena Botham Carter Elaine. Now we don't want that do we NO NO NO.

presidentmax · 07/03/2009, 01:51 pm

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Originally Posted by Scapetti

Oh he's good really... he just shouldn't be allowed to make remakes (Planet of the Apes, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory)

As much as i love Burton i can't help but agree with this. It seems like Burton is taking the easy route and just remaking movies. I miss the way he made movies in the 80's and 90's.

Oh yeah, i'm all for a return to the darkness of mi2. Considering how telltale are taking influence from mi2 and mi3 (and most likely 1) then i think we are definetly in a few surprises.

Scapetti · 07/03/2009, 01:54 pm

Go back and play Curse of Monkey Island and you will be surprised at how much death there is in such a vibrant game! Heck, even Guybrush dies! I do hope TMI has a reasonable amount of death and darkness but I have seen nothing to make me think it won't, so this will probably be the dark toned Monkey Island you desire. Maybe you should wait for the game before you start assuming it will be all cuddly and cheery XD

darknessofheart · 07/03/2009, 02:01 pm

You have to remember while Monkey Island games are comical, the core storyline is not. It's about a guy who wants to be seen as a man in the form of piracy and falls in love. A horrible villain that is undead due to him entering the bowels of hell murders people and even goes as far as creating an amusement park, an image of family fun, and uses it to mass murder people, turn them into the undead, and forces them to serve him.

If someone just read that they would say these games are dark and sick. But they are funny. The best thing about Monkey Island is that it's a game that can be serious, but not too serious. The stories are dark and spooky but are told through humorous dialogue and interactions. That will never go away and shouldn't.

Shen-Zhi · 07/03/2009, 02:13 pm

go play left 4 dead. monkey island should NEVER change to anything darker than it already is. and the darkest thing is the humor.

Scapetti · 07/03/2009, 02:26 pm

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Originally Posted by darknessofheart

You have to remember while Monkey Island games are comical, the core storyline is not. It's about a guy who wants to be seen as a man in the form of piracy and falls in love. A horrible villain that is undead due to him entering the bowels of hell murders people and even goes as far as creating an amusement park, an image of family fun, and uses it to mass murder people, turn them into the undead, and forces them to serve him.

If someone just read that they would say these games are dark and sick. But they are funny. The best thing about Monkey Island is that it's a game that can be serious, but not too serious. The stories are dark and spooky but are told through humorous dialogue and interactions. That will never go away and shouldn't.

To sum up: it's a dark comedy

PariahKing · 07/03/2009, 02:27 pm

I think it'll end up transitioning from CMI-like to MI2 like - sort of like a transition from MI1 to MI2 in fast forward.

darknessofheart · 07/03/2009, 02:28 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scapetti

To sum up: it's a dark comedy

That's the term I was looking for. lol

Leak · 07/03/2009, 03:29 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scapetti

To sum up: it's a dark comedy

Hmmm... I had actually hoped for it to be a romantic comedy - with zombies...

TookiGuy · 07/03/2009, 03:31 pm

You know what, I always thought as a kid, that I wanted as many Monkey Islands as there were possible. But now, you know... As great as the series is, I think ToMI should be the last one.

MusicallyInspired · 07/03/2009, 04:03 pm

I loved the MI2 atmosphere.

Scapetti · 07/03/2009, 04:10 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leak

Hmmm... I had actually hoped for it to be a romantic comedy - with zombies...

Don't you be linking a Brit to Shaun of the Dead! I knew full well what you were hinting about XD Keep your references subtle, if people don't get it then they are the one's missing out

07/03/2009, 05:54 am	#1
Wolfstar27 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: UK Posts: 374	After TOMI, Would you like to see a darker Tone Monkey Island? Interesting Question i thought that,ive seen Monkey Island progress from the first one towards the lastest one, and it has progressed Monkey Island as a more cartoony look and the revamping the first Monkey Island theyve made it also into a cartoon look (the characters ),do you think Monkey Island would be always portrayed as a Cartoon styled game?, Monkey Island 2 is slighty darker (remember the part where you see guybrushs parents skeletons in the lost and found) now people who have grown up with Monkey Island from the first one are slighty abit older now. after seeing this sketch, i thought it could have a darker look and still maintain its humour (things dont have to be cartoony to be funny) http://www.worldofmi.com/images/categories/19/Cap.jpg what are your opinions guys?

07/03/2009, 05:55 am	#2
PariahKing I Have Arrived Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,327	I think ToMI will be sufficiently dark. __________________ It's OK to eat fish - they don't have any feelings.

07/03/2009, 05:56 am	#3
Haggis Idealist/Surrealist Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands Posts: 1,316	Well, why couldn't one of the episodes be set in a dark environment, a bit like Blood Island in CMI? That wouldn't really surprise me, and I think it's achievable, even in a "cartoony" style. __________________ I write, therefore I am.

07/03/2009, 06:03 am	#6
Scrawffler Pappapisshu!! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: England wink wink nudge nudge Posts: 607	Hmm... Tim Burton-esque styles spring to mind. But still, like PK mentioned TOMI could indeed turn out to be quite dark. Things don't have to be cartoony to be funny, quite right there. But also, things don't have to be constantly light-hearted just because they look cartoony. Guess we'll have to wait and see! __________________ I'm not crazy; I'm sanely-challenged.

07/03/2009, 02:13 pm	#13
Shen-Zhi Wanna-be Jedi Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: FC Basel 1893 Posts: 99	go play left 4 dead. monkey island should NEVER change to anything darker than it already is. and the darkest thing is the humor. __________________ All hail Max!

07/03/2009, 05:59 am	#4
Toothless Gibbon Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: UK Posts: 933	To reinterate what I and others have said on other threads, I beleive it to have always been cartoony. I think if they could have made the original look a bit more like the special edition at the time they would have done.

07/03/2009, 06:01 am	#5
SurplusGamer Mojo Mixer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: London, UK Posts: 418	I talked about this in another thread a bit but it bears mentioning again: In a podcast I listened to I think it was Mike Stemmle who mentioned there is a thematic change from day to night as the series goes on, and Jake mentioned somewhere that it's surprising how much the mood changes over the course of the series, too. So, I suspect that you'll get what you are looking for from Tales of Monkey Island, and it looks like a lot of the darker stuff in the game occurs in the latter half of the series. On a different note, if you really look at the MI1/2 graphics, it has always been a rather cartoony game, rather than a realistic-looking game. It's just that the art styles were a little different and perhaps more subtle in the first two games.

07/03/2009, 01:54 pm	#11
Scapetti The Pixel Director Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Aberystwyth, Wales Posts: 306	Go back and play Curse of Monkey Island and you will be surprised at how much death there is in such a vibrant game! Heck, even Guybrush dies! I do hope TMI has a reasonable amount of death and darkness but I have seen nothing to make me think it won't, so this will probably be the dark toned Monkey Island you desire. Maybe you should wait for the game before you start assuming it will be all cuddly and cheery XD

07/03/2009, 02:01 pm	#12
darknessofheart Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Point A to Point B to Point C Posts: 436	You have to remember while Monkey Island games are comical, the core storyline is not. It's about a guy who wants to be seen as a man in the form of piracy and falls in love. A horrible villain that is undead due to him entering the bowels of hell murders people and even goes as far as creating an amusement park, an image of family fun, and uses it to mass murder people, turn them into the undead, and forces them to serve him. If someone just read that they would say these games are dark and sick. But they are funny. The best thing about Monkey Island is that it's a game that can be serious, but not too serious. The stories are dark and spooky but are told through humorous dialogue and interactions. That will never go away and shouldn't.

07/03/2009, 02:27 pm	#15
PariahKing I Have Arrived Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,327	I think it'll end up transitioning from CMI-like to MI2 like - sort of like a transition from MI1 to MI2 in fast forward. __________________ It's OK to eat fish - they don't have any feelings.

07/03/2009, 03:31 pm	#18
TookiGuy Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 192	You know what, I always thought as a kid, that I wanted as many Monkey Islands as there were possible. But now, you know... As great as the series is, I think ToMI should be the last one.

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