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Wam · 07/09/2009, 12:35 pm

From a french point of view, the same thing is happening with the marquis.
His lines are definitely wrote by an english speaking person and "google translated".
The best exemple is his final line : Sacrée merde which doesn't mean anything in french and is a clumsy translation of holly shit. It's still quite funny anyway, but not very authentic.

corruptbiggins · 07/09/2009, 12:57 pm

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Originally Posted by Wam

From a french point of view, the same thing is happening with the marquis.
His lines are definitely wrote by an english speaking person and "google translated".
The best exemple is his final line : Sacrée merde which doesn't mean anything in french and is a clumsy translation of holly shit. It's still quite funny anyway, but not very authentic.

I think that's part of the point.

Macco · 07/09/2009, 03:01 pm

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Originally Posted by Mad Mary

Oh my gawd... ROFL! Sorry, but it's HORNED. The word you used means... well... never mind.

I know what is the double meaning for it, that's why I posted it

Saw it fit for this topic...
Anyhow, horny is a thing that possesses a horn.

Bruno83 · 07/09/2009, 03:02 pm

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Originally Posted by Leak

Also diese Aussage saugt ja wohl gewaltig...

(Lately, "saugen" is used a lot in the "this sucks" sense in German...)

ger.: Also wenn ich das mal jemanden so verwenden höre, werde ich ihm wahrscheinlich eine kleben!
engl.: If I ever here someone using it that way in german, I'll probably glue him some!

OK, now who's getting this joke?

Qgar · 07/09/2009, 03:50 pm

Mein Luftkissenfahrzeug ist voller Aale

Bernus · 07/09/2009, 04:41 pm

So Telltale just wanted to say "the wind of Flotsam (Island) sucks".
Why they were trying to say it in german, why they used Luf(t) instead of Wind which would make more sense (probably cause Wind wasnt deutsch enough, cause its the same word as in english) and why the "t" is missing - maybe we will find out in later Episodes when more Kraut-Deutsch hits on Monkey Island.
And I think its no recycling-sign but more a spiral of wind - guess its the towns banner so it would fit.

Finds nachdem ich den thread durchgelesen habe, trotzdem immer noch seltsam und irgendwie unlustig...

Btw. even if the german translation makes no sense, it would correctly be:

"Die Luft von Flotsam saugt"

Mad Mary · 07/09/2009, 04:44 pm

Never try to translate untranslatable word-play, look for something else instead (another sentence which would make sense in German).

Bernus · 07/09/2009, 04:46 pm

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Originally Posted by Ara

Luft means wind... but the sentence makes no sense in German

Nachtrag: Wind und Luft ist eben nicht identisch!

Wind meint die wahrnehmbare Bewegung von Luft. Somit wäre auch geklärt, dass es nicht Luft sondern Wind sein müsste, was in der Fahne steht.

Just mentionend that Luft does not mean wind or Wind (german).

Luft = Air

Wind = wind (moving air)

So that the word Luf(t) infact is not right and should have been Wind.

Macco · 07/09/2009, 06:59 pm

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Originally Posted by Bernus

Luft = Air

Hmm... so Luf would be then Ai.
So the banner says "Artificial Intelligence of Flotsam sucks"

Just playing with words here...

drybrush · 07/10/2009, 09:11 am

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Originally Posted by Macco

Hmm... so Luf would be then Ai.
So the banner says "Artificial Intelligence of Flotsam sucks"

Just playing with words here...

Makes sense but there's no AI in Monkey Island.

LuigiHann · 07/10/2009, 09:37 am

Ai is also the Japanese word for love.

But maybe what they really meant was "Win"?

drybrush · 07/10/2009, 09:42 am

Being German I would translate it as follows:

Flotsam sucks the air

jeditribble · 07/10/2009, 09:56 am

Yes, I also did not see the point when I saw the flag - in fact, it was so bad that I decided it must not have been meant to be German!

However, given the Stanford motto, I guess it was meant to be - in that case, it was extremely poor. "Die Luft von Flotsam saugt" would have been tolerable. "Die Luft von Flotsam stinkt" would make more sense, although it might not be accurate - does the air on Flotsam stink?

Anyway, it seems to me this is an intended joke that missed its mark.

MOKKA · 07/10/2009, 10:01 am

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Originally Posted by Bruno83

ger.: Also wenn ich das mal jemanden so verwenden höre, werde ich ihm wahrscheinlich eine kleben!
engl.: If I ever here someone using it that way in german, I'll probably glue him some!

OK, now who's getting this joke?

I think, I got the Joke. Nearly pissed my pants, really.

By the way, as far as I remember, the few Episodes of Beavis and Butthead that were translated to German, used the term "das saugt" for "this sucks".

*Vainamoinen* · 07/10/2009, 10:08 am

I demand a patch for this!

drybrush · 07/10/2009, 11:00 am

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Originally Posted by MOKKA

I think, I got the Joke. Nearly pissed my pants, really.

By the way, as far as I remember, the few Episodes of Beavis and Butthead that were translated to German, used the term "das saugt" for "this sucks".

How is that funny?

Bruno83 · 07/10/2009, 11:04 am

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Originally Posted by drybrush

How is that funny?

It isn't!

CuriosTiger · 07/10/2009, 11:09 am

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Originally Posted by hansschmucker

Ich glaub da haben die Österreicher ihre eigene Interpretation. Bei uns heist saugen, naja... saugen eben. Sonst nichts.

(Talking about people in Austria using the word differently from people in Germany)

Having learned Hochdeutsch in school (in Norway and in the US) and subsequently having lived in Austria (Vienna), I can vouch for this.

The Austrian versions of German bear almost no semblance to anything spoken in Germany, except perhaps some of the Bavarian dialects.

[Hunter.Wolf] · 07/10/2009, 11:19 am

I would REALLY like to know why telltale decided to put that in the game. But it seems they don't like to talk about design decisions in here...

RemiO · 07/10/2009, 11:25 am

I'm pretty sure they did it to piss off the Germans. In fact, if you are German and/or speak German, you should take it as a personal insult.

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LuigiHann Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,657	Ai is also the Japanese word for love. But maybe what they really meant was "Win"? __________________ "I think it's the idea that counts, not the actual method. As long as you set out to cause a horrible death through insects eating the person, you're good." - apenpaap

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07/09/2009, 12:35 pm	#41
Wam Mister mummy 94 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Paris Posts: 12	From a french point of view, the same thing is happening with the marquis. His lines are definitely wrote by an english speaking person and "google translated". The best exemple is his final line : Sacrée merde which doesn't mean anything in french and is a clumsy translation of holly shit. It's still quite funny anyway, but not very authentic.

07/09/2009, 03:50 pm	#45
Qgar Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 5	Mein Luftkissenfahrzeug ist voller Aale

07/09/2009, 04:41 pm	#46
Bernus Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 51	So Telltale just wanted to say "the wind of Flotsam (Island) sucks". Why they were trying to say it in german, why they used Luf(t) instead of Wind which would make more sense (probably cause Wind wasnt deutsch enough, cause its the same word as in english) and why the "t" is missing - maybe we will find out in later Episodes when more Kraut-Deutsch hits on Monkey Island. And I think its no recycling-sign but more a spiral of wind - guess its the towns banner so it would fit. Finds nachdem ich den thread durchgelesen habe, trotzdem immer noch seltsam und irgendwie unlustig... Btw. even if the german translation makes no sense, it would correctly be: "Die Luft von Flotsam saugt"

07/10/2009, 09:42 am	#52
drybrush Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 6	Being German I would translate it as follows: Flotsam sucks the air

07/10/2009, 09:56 am	#53
jeditribble Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 63	Yes, I also did not see the point when I saw the flag - in fact, it was so bad that I decided it must not have been meant to be German! However, given the Stanford motto, I guess it was meant to be - in that case, it was extremely poor. "Die Luft von Flotsam saugt" would have been tolerable. "Die Luft von Flotsam stinkt" would make more sense, although it might not be accurate - does the air on Flotsam stink? Anyway, it seems to me this is an intended joke that missed its mark.

07/10/2009, 10:08 am	#55
Vainamoinen Community Moderator Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 6,643	I demand a patch for this!

07/10/2009, 11:19 am	#59
[Hunter.Wolf] Mighty fanboy (tm) Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Austria Posts: 41	I would REALLY like to know why telltale decided to put that in the game. But it seems they don't like to talk about design decisions in here...