Telltale Games

SANAFABICH · 07/12/2009, 05:05 pm

First off, let me point out that I LOVED this first chapter of "Tales of Monkey Island", so people at TTG: thank you from the bottom of my longtime-monkey-island-fan heart. That being said, there are a few things I missed from the older games in the series. To name a few:
-More dialogue: You were able to have pointless yet very amusing conversations with almost every character on the different islands; they had lots of things to say about themselves and their view on the different situations and issues of the island and you could spend several minutes talking to them. I loved that part, it really set to tone to the whole experience, which leads me to a second point:
-Richer Background: Every island had a very rich story, and you were able to find out about it through different ways if you were interested in it. I felt that in this first chapter of TMI there was a lack of background story. I really wanted to know more about the island, but none of the characters had much to say about it other than some references to the wind and the mer-folks.
-More interactive and diverse situations: an example: When Guybrush had to go into the bar, I was like "awesome! the inside is going to be so much fun to play" but then all we hear are sounds and noises, and Guybrush is kicked out of the bar. That was a real disappointment for me; in older games they would have created the whole interior of the bar and several characters and situations to deal with.
-A more pirate-like and misterious atmosphere: Older MI games had a very distinctive and peculiar background and scenery art. Everything looked old and worn out, like from a different time, a very old time. You really felt like you were visiting long lost places in the caribean where pirates and such once used to live, abandoned shacks and old colonial houses. I loved that kind of art from the first three MI games. In TMI, everything looked kindda... new. That sort of nostalgic look was gone.

I hope TTG developers take these into account in order to make the following chapters in TMI more like the original games at least regarding these points. Of course, if they don't, I'm sure I will still enjoy the new chapters just like I did with LOTSN.
What do you people think?

*Irishmile* · 07/12/2009, 05:31 pm

I agree 100% that they missed a great opportunity for some memorable moments of game play and character interaction in Club 41

thatdude98 · 07/12/2009, 05:55 pm

Just think of Club 41 as the room in Elaine's mansion in MI1.

SANAFABICH · 07/12/2009, 06:40 pm

I would agree with you if TMI had as much interactive material as the first chapter in SMI.

larys · 07/12/2009, 07:05 pm

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Originally Posted by SANAFABICH

-More dialogue: You were able to have pointless yet very amusing conversations with almost every character on the different islands; they had lots of things to say about themselves and their view on the different situations and issues of the island and you could spend several minutes talking to them. I loved that part, it really set to tone to the whole experience, which leads me to a second point:
-Richer Background: Every island had a very rich story, and you were able to find out about it through different ways if you were interested in it. I felt that in this first chapter of TMI there was a lack of background story. I really wanted to know more about the island, but none of the characters had much to say about it other than some references to the wind and the mer-folks.

-A more pirate-like and misterious atmosphere: Older MI games had a very distinctive and peculiar background and scenery art. Everything looked old and worn out, like from a different time, a very old time. You really felt like you were visiting long lost places in the caribean where pirates and such once used to live, abandoned shacks and old colonial houses. I loved that kind of art from the first three MI games. In TMI, everything looked kindda... new. That sort of nostalgic look was gone.

I agree with you. If telltales fix those 3 points, the second episode will be perfect in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by SANAFABICH

-More interactive and diverse situations: an example: When Guybrush had to go into the bar, I was like "awesome! the inside is going to be so much fun to play" but then all we hear are sounds and noises, and Guybrush is kicked out of the bar. That was a real disappointment for me; in older games they would have created the whole interior of the bar and several characters and situations to deal with.

I think the first episode had many locations to interact with, it would have been great to see the inside of the bar but ok the game was so great that i didn't really care. we may see the bar in the future episode, who knows.

harlequ1n · 07/12/2009, 11:31 pm

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Originally Posted by thatdude98

Just think of Club 41 as the room in Elaine's mansion in MI1.

Well I read somewhere that they actually wanted to have the player solve all the puzzles that were automated in that very room hence making it a proper one, but unfortunately they couldn't due to size (i.e. number of floppies) impositions. Not the case this time around.

SANAFABICH · 07/13/2009, 02:47 am

Exactly.

SANAFABICH · 07/13/2009, 11:24 am

bump

Steverin0 · 07/14/2009, 10:47 am

Good post - have seen some of these points come up in other threads, but I agree. There's only so much they can do per episode but the first chapter did feel very basic intro-to-new-adventurers and could be worked upon for us adventuring dinosaurs. Damn they can't win, we're just gonna nitpick a chapter to oblivion between every episode.

TTG you have your work cut out! I'm sure you will deliver. On another note, does anyone else think maybe they have finished the skeleton programming of most of the season already? I have no idea..

Javi-Wan Kenobi · 07/14/2009, 10:49 am

I miss the verb coin

Steverin0 · 07/14/2009, 10:51 am

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Originally Posted by Javi-Wan Kenobi

I miss the verb coin

the CMI hold click verb coin?

Javi-Wan Kenobi · 07/14/2009, 10:52 am

yup

*Irishmile* · 07/14/2009, 10:54 am

I miss being able to press Cntrl-ALT-W, I had to instead play the entire game to win

Kidding

Steverin0 · 07/14/2009, 10:54 am

Yea I miss that too - it was perfectly implemented before and having played CMI the week before I found myself trying for it and missing this feature every time (and ending up with the move arrows). Good call. The hold verb coin should come back!

der_ketzer · 07/14/2009, 10:59 am

I miss the 8-bit music

RockNRoll · 07/14/2009, 11:06 am

It really needs a LOOK function. It just feels like something big is missing with only being able to interact one way with everything, and not being in control of whether he looks or acts or whatever.

*Irishmile* · 07/14/2009, 11:08 am

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Originally Posted by RockNRoll

It really needs a LOOK function. It just feels like something big is missing with only being able to interact one way with everything, and not being in control of whether he looks or acts or whatever.

I agree... I always looked at things before I interacted with them to get a description.

SANAFABICH · 07/14/2009, 11:24 am

damn right! It was fun to look at things and hear guybrush's comments about them, even when they had no importance whatsoever to the plot. You were able to interact with almost everything!

Yohmi · 07/14/2009, 11:42 am

I miss the incredible music of CMI. Don't get me wrong, ToMI has a great music. But it feels strange that Sam&Max has its free solo jazz, and there is nothing such in ToMI... stunning music helps great games to become stunning, see CMI, see Grim Fandango

Steverin0 · 07/14/2009, 11:45 am

Mmm the music in sam and max having only played episode one, season 1, is fantastic. It's slowly pushing me, I can see myself getting into that series.

07/12/2009, 05:05 pm	#1
SANAFABICH Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 64	Things from older games (not EMI!) that you missed in TMI First off, let me point out that I LOVED this first chapter of "Tales of Monkey Island", so people at TTG: thank you from the bottom of my longtime-monkey-island-fan heart. That being said, there are a few things I missed from the older games in the series. To name a few: -More dialogue: You were able to have pointless yet very amusing conversations with almost every character on the different islands; they had lots of things to say about themselves and their view on the different situations and issues of the island and you could spend several minutes talking to them. I loved that part, it really set to tone to the whole experience, which leads me to a second point: -Richer Background: Every island had a very rich story, and you were able to find out about it through different ways if you were interested in it. I felt that in this first chapter of TMI there was a lack of background story. I really wanted to know more about the island, but none of the characters had much to say about it other than some references to the wind and the mer-folks. -More interactive and diverse situations: an example: When Guybrush had to go into the bar, I was like "awesome! the inside is going to be so much fun to play" but then all we hear are sounds and noises, and Guybrush is kicked out of the bar. That was a real disappointment for me; in older games they would have created the whole interior of the bar and several characters and situations to deal with. -A more pirate-like and misterious atmosphere: Older MI games had a very distinctive and peculiar background and scenery art. Everything looked old and worn out, like from a different time, a very old time. You really felt like you were visiting long lost places in the caribean where pirates and such once used to live, abandoned shacks and old colonial houses. I loved that kind of art from the first three MI games. In TMI, everything looked kindda... new. That sort of nostalgic look was gone. I hope TTG developers take these into account in order to make the following chapters in TMI more like the original games at least regarding these points. Of course, if they don't, I'm sure I will still enjoy the new chapters just like I did with LOTSN. What do you people think? Last edited by SANAFABICH; 07/12/2009 at 07:59 pm.

07/14/2009, 11:24 am	#18
SANAFABICH Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 64	damn right! It was fun to look at things and hear guybrush's comments about them, even when they had no importance whatsoever to the plot. You were able to interact with almost everything! Last edited by SANAFABICH; 07/14/2009 at 11:30 am.

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07/12/2009, 05:31 pm	#2
Irishmile The Skipping Dead Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: WI, its a paradise 3 months of the year Posts: 6,542	I agree 100% that they missed a great opportunity for some memorable moments of game play and character interaction in Club 41

07/12/2009, 05:55 pm	#3
thatdude98 Professional Hobo Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dirt Hole, USA Posts: 755	Just think of Club 41 as the room in Elaine's mansion in MI1.

07/12/2009, 06:40 pm	#4
SANAFABICH Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 64	I would agree with you if TMI had as much interactive material as the first chapter in SMI.

07/13/2009, 02:47 am	#7
SANAFABICH Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 64	Exactly.

07/13/2009, 11:24 am	#8
SANAFABICH Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 64	bump

07/14/2009, 10:47 am	#9
Steverin0 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 135	Good post - have seen some of these points come up in other threads, but I agree. There's only so much they can do per episode but the first chapter did feel very basic intro-to-new-adventurers and could be worked upon for us adventuring dinosaurs. Damn they can't win, we're just gonna nitpick a chapter to oblivion between every episode. TTG you have your work cut out! I'm sure you will deliver. On another note, does anyone else think maybe they have finished the skeleton programming of most of the season already? I have no idea..

07/14/2009, 10:49 am	#10
Javi-Wan Kenobi Adventure Gaming Jedi Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Estella, Navarra, Spain Posts: 1,060	I miss the verb coin

07/14/2009, 10:52 am	#12
Javi-Wan Kenobi Adventure Gaming Jedi Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Estella, Navarra, Spain Posts: 1,060	yup

07/14/2009, 10:54 am	#13
Irishmile The Skipping Dead Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: WI, its a paradise 3 months of the year Posts: 6,542	I miss being able to press Cntrl-ALT-W, I had to instead play the entire game to win Kidding

07/14/2009, 10:59 am	#15
der_ketzer Fhqwhgod Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: in.meinem.turm.versteckt Posts: 4,768	I miss the 8-bit music

07/14/2009, 11:06 am	#16
RockNRoll Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 168	It really needs a LOOK function. It just feels like something big is missing with only being able to interact one way with everything, and not being in control of whether he looks or acts or whatever.

07/14/2009, 11:42 am	#19
Yohmi Papapishu Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Taipei Posts: 317	I miss the incredible music of CMI. Don't get me wrong, ToMI has a great music. But it feels strange that Sam&Max has its free solo jazz, and there is nothing such in ToMI... stunning music helps great games to become stunning, see CMI, see Grim Fandango

07/14/2009, 11:45 am	#20
Steverin0 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 135	Mmm the music in sam and max having only played episode one, season 1, is fantastic. It's slowly pushing me, I can see myself getting into that series.