LucasArts Star Wars games! (don't lynch me)

[Astro Gnocci]

i was actually a HUGE star wars fan when i first got a computer and my very first game was jedi knight.
It's only later that i found out about their adventure games.

I picked the X wing series, The Jedi knight one, rebel assault and Kotor, the X Wing being probably the one i love the most, for pretty much the same reasons as the OP.

I understand why people get pissed of star wars games, but after all the company was basically founded to cash in on it... It's actually a great they ever bothered to do anything else. Stopping doing that and forgetting how to make good games along the way sure sucked.
Aside from Kotor (which they didn't even make...) i don't think anything has interested me since x wing alliance.

I like both KOTORs, but the plot in 1 was kind of flat. The second one is a masterpiece.

EXACT opposite for me. Actually i didn't get shit from the second one's plot. I kept fighting guys whom i didn't even who they were and didn't even understand why i had to fight the final boss :|
Maybe i'm just retarded, but i really thought it was terrible.

[Secret Fawful]

Really the only Star Wars games I've played are Battlefront 1 and 2, Empire at War (which I own), and a bit of The Force Unleashed. Between them I liked the Force Unleashed the most for its story.

I'm not a mega Star Wars fan however, so some of the excitement is lost on me. Shoot, I LIKED Jar Jar Binks and the Ewoks.

[Novotnus]

Originally Posted by Astro Gnocci

EXACT opposite for me. Actually i didn't get shit from the second one's plot. I kept fighting guys whom i didn't even who they were and didn't even understand why i had to fight the final boss :|
Maybe i'm just retarded, but i really thought it was terrible.

You were one of few Jedi alive and people and organizations wanted Jedi to perish. Some of them (like Goto) wanted to use you. Some other, like Sion and Sith Assassins wanted to eliminate you. Nihilus wanted to feed on you.
Kreia was a master of Revan and later his follower. She wanted to train you as an aid for Revan, who left the Galaxy to fight the True Sith (in the final scene you fly to Unknown Regions to help Revan). As she was a Sith, the final fight was just final part of your training (and she didn't care if you are Dark or Light - all she wanted was to make you powerful).
Personaly I loved the villians. They were deeper than stupid Ha-Ha-I'm-such-a-bad-boy-Malak. K2 actualy showed the horrors of the Dark Side - all the Sith were kind of sad characters, dissapointed with the Galaxy, they didn't possess the power but were corrupted and seemd to know that.
Don't forget a lot of content was cut from K2 (Jim Wand's policy - it had to be relased before Xmass to make more money, even if it was incomplete). Some modders (including my friend Zbyl2) are restoring lots of stuff cut from K2 - with their restoration the ending would make a lot more sense.

[Astro Gnocci]

this didn't help much cause i don't remember a lot, but thanks anyway.

At least kreia turning against you makes a bit more sense, now.
Might try it again someday. I agree that malak was a pretty lame baddie by the way but the overall plot, while far from being groundbreaking, was still kinda cool IMO.

[Novotnus]

Originally Posted by Astro Gnocci

this didn't help much cause i don't remember a lot, but thanks anyway.

At least kreia turning against you makes a bit more sense, now.

It's even more complicated - Kreia ws dissapionted with the Force (as she was betrayed by both Jedi and Sith) and she belived that the Force has it's own will. Something made her belive that the Force is manipulating every single beeing in the Galaxy - that way she came to conclusion, that the Force caused both Mandalorian Wars and Jedi Civil War. She wanted to destroy the Force itself, but she didn't realise that destruction of the Force would cause death of whole Galaxy. You had to fail her first test in Rebulided Jedi Enclave, as you didn't want to accept her point of view and help her (all your responses states that you still want to use the Force). Later on she realises that another war is comming and your second test is to beat her. Finaly you can follow Revan and join him in war that is to come

Originally Posted by Astro Gnocci

Might try it again someday. I agree that malak was a pretty lame baddie by the way but the overall plot, while far from being groundbreaking, was still kinda cool IMO.

Thhe revelation was nice. Tuskens were fine. Rakattans were interesting. But besides that it's just another story of an unbeatable superhero and almost unbeatable supervillian (who seems to be interested only in destroying and bobarding everything), with lots of spaceships, lightsabers and fireworks. I don't say it's bad. It's just a little unoryginal.

[Astro Gnocci]

Thhe revelation was nice. Tuskens were fine. Rakattans were interesting. But besides that it's just another story of an unbeatable superhero and almost unbeatable supervillian (who seems to be interested only in destroying and bobarding everything), with lots of spaceships, lightsabers and fireworks. I don't say it's bad. It's just a little unoryginal.

True, but star wars wouldn't be star wars if the plot wasnt kinda unoriginal and manichean (does that term exist in english ? If not, i mean simple good guys vs baddies)

[Starscream]

I've played a good few of those over the years though avoided the crappy ones like Battlefront, Force Unleashed etc.

Dark Forces/Jedi Knight series were good up until the jedi stuff started becoming more and more prominent to the point were it was pointless to use anything other than the lightsaber in the later games.

I just wished they had kept it as just a Star Wars FPS series or had a separate one.

X-Wing/Tie Fighter series still remains the gold standard for space fighter games*, only one has ever come close the excellent Freespace 2.

* I do not call them a space sim games or "realistic" in any way as they do not adhere to the real flight physics of space, there were a few games long ago that actually did.

Republic Commando was actually a pretty decent game a lot better than most expected it to be for a prequel title.

Empire at War probably the best RTS for Star Wars especially if you just want to see fleets duke it out without having to gets your hands to involved, the ground combat though was really hit and miss. But compared to past attempts at Star Wars strategy games its a lot better.

The first Kotor was excellent but I completely lot interested in the second and just stopped playing it.

[corruptbiggins]

Originally Posted by Starscream

Dark Forces/Jedi Knight series were good up until the jedi stuff started becoming more and more prominent to the point were it was pointless to use anything other than the lightsaber in the later games.

Personally, that's why I liked it. Dark Forces was just an average generic shooter which happened to be set in the Star Wars universe. Making Katarn a Jedi made the later games feel like Star Wars games.

[Rather Dashing]

Originally Posted by Starscream

I've played a good few of those over the years though avoided the crappy ones like Battlefront, Force Unleashed etc.

Force Unleashed is actually worth it. You can get it used for $15 or rent it like I did. I was able to push through the campaign during the rental period, but what content is there is pretty good. The ending(or at least the "good" ending) is extremely satisfying, I found the narrative to work, and the game is a solid experience with a lot of great tech behind it.

[Shwoo]

Knights of the Old Republic was a great game. I really should finish it some time.

The first LucasArts game I played was Star Wars Episode 1 Racer, which I guess makes me a bad adventure game fan, and I have a lot of good memories of playing it. My favourite thing to do was turn the debug menu on, then give my racer invincibility and a very high top speed. That made playing through the courses a lot of fun.

[britt12334]

you forgot one(none of the above)

[Astro Gnocci]

Star Wars Rebellion ?

Gets boring quite quickly, but i still love playing a game now and then

[SHODANFreeman]

I'm glad Lucasarts are intelligent again so that I don't have to boycott their Star Wars games anymore.

[Fraevar]

I would say X-Wing and Dark Forces merely for nostalgia.

Knights of the Old Republic was the game that re-kindled my love of Star Wars after being sorely disappointed by the prequels, though I'm honestly not ready to forgive LucasArts for messing up so horribly with KotOR 2 and then turning the franchise into an MMO, thus totally casting aside all the wonderful and memorable characters of the first game.

[Astro Gnocci]

lucasart didn't actually make the KOTOR games.

[SHODANFreeman]

Originally Posted by Astro Gnocci

lucasart didn't actually make the KOTOR games.

I believe he means how they rushed Obsidian to release KOTOR 2 before it was done.

[Astro Gnocci]

Oh.
Yeah i'd heard about that, but kinda forgotten.
Sorry then