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Jordan · 01/07/2007, 12:30 am

Thoughts? Personally I liked Episode 2 better. The jokes made me laugh, rather than smirk. The villian had more personality and life, and the third party characters were hilarious (Bosco is by far the best, but Hugh Bliss was good). The whole episode was shorter it seemed, but I wouldn't say the difficulty level was any different. The trickiest part for me took 5 minutes to figure out instead of 4. What I like best is the scenery, the whole television studio set had this darker bizarre aura that gave the true feeling of a Sam and Max game, kinda like some of the locations in HTR. Maybe its just the nostalgia kicking in, but I felt like I was in Rubacava in Grim Fandango. Episode 1 has the outside of the creepy theater clinic, but you dont spend much time there and its all laughs and giggles and organs inside, not nearly wierd enough.

numble · 01/07/2007, 12:43 am

NO, do not compare the TV studio to Rubacava!

Rasher · 01/07/2007, 12:45 am

I loved the second episode more than the first. You're right about the fact that it was laugh out loud funny, and much more zany. I even found myself laughing at the solutions to puzzles before I even tried them.

I went through the whole game in one sitting, and never wanted to put the game down. Good thing I had the morning off

This episode did feel shorter than the first, but that could be because I enjoyed it so much.

Looking forward to Episode 3.

Jordan · 01/07/2007, 08:47 am

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Originally Posted by numble

NO, do not compare the TV studio to Rubacava!

lol, "i felt like" i dont think i would ever put another adventure game on the same playing field as grim fandango.

Welshy · 01/07/2007, 08:51 am

Can butterflies fly....

Sams expression at that moment simply made episode 2 for me, i loved it

Derwin · 01/07/2007, 09:52 am

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Originally Posted by Welshy

Can butterflies fly....

Yes... they can.

I thought Episode 2 had better puzzles and way more humor.

I vote for Ep 2.

Col_Shaggy · 01/07/2007, 10:02 am

I was through Epi2 quicker than the first but I think that's because I played Epi1 first and my mind was back into the puzzle solving mode.
Episode 1 took my about two days to finish, whereas 2 took me a few hours, but I ran into similar trouble when I first started playing Hit The Road after a long long hiatus.
I think people saying that it's shorter or easier just don't realize the change in thinking that occurs when figuring out episodes 1.
Maybe I'm wrong, but regardless, The humor on the weak end is just as good as HTR and the comics and even excels beyond all of that on the high end. Whether it's toddler easy or not doesn't matter because it's still a riot to play through over and over again.

Erwin · 01/07/2007, 10:56 am

They're both pretty much equal to me, although I do think Episode 2 is somewhat more solid. Everything fits in a little better, if you know what I mean. The difference is minuscule, which shouldn't be surprising since Ep. 2 was well underway when its predecessor premiered on GameTap.

--Erwin

zebulon · 01/07/2007, 12:52 pm

One thing cracked me up in episode 2: the facial expressions (and the animations in general). Much better than in episode 1, except for those huge foreheads Sam and Max had sometimes

The negative point: it seemed shorter than episode 1. But we'll have another one in 1 month. Keep them coming, boys!

Larrin · 01/07/2007, 01:11 pm

So far I've found Episode 2 better overall than the first. It does have a distinct Monkey Island feel to me though. I haven't decided if that's good or bad, but I loved all of the Monkey Island games, so I guess it's good for me. It's also harder than the first episode for me, and it looks like it will take me longer, but I only play in burts of 30 minutes or so; I suppose difficulty and length would vary some from person to person.

Astro Gnocci · 01/07/2007, 01:14 pm

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Originally Posted by Larrin

It does have a distinct Monkey Island feel to me though.

Really ? Monkey island was my first adventure game ever, and i've played it a lot... But i don't see how ep 2 feels the same way...

Lysandus · 01/07/2007, 01:30 pm

Structurally, yes, it felt very Monkey Island to me too. It has the feeling of a Monkey Island "act" where you have to perform 3 big tasks in any order you want, usually broken down into a couple of smaller tasks each.
In comparison to episode 1, I think this was even more non-linear, almost totally so except for the first shaving cream and last defeating Myra puzzle. Which is good, it gives it a very organic and "game like" feel, though it also makes the game feel a bit aimless at times. For example, why would you even want to tape that sitcom before you knew why, or do any of the other shows? It probably would've been better to place the door to Myra's studio right at the start. Give a bit more direction earlier on, don't make us accidentally solve puzzles before they're even put to us. Episode 1 suffered from this problem far less.
Still great, though, of course! Loved both!

Jordan · 01/07/2007, 01:34 pm

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Originally Posted by Lysandus

For example, why would you even want to tape that sitcom before you knew why, or do any of the other shows? It probably would've been better to place the door to Myra's studio right at the start. Give a bit more direction earlier on, don't make us accidentally solve puzzles before they're even put to us.

I totally agree with this, I solved the Midtown Cowboys sitcom before I did anything backstage, and it really wasnt necessary.

Astro Gnocci · 01/07/2007, 02:00 pm

well, that's right, i haven't thought much of the structure of the game... it's just that when you say "a monkey island feel", i expect something more of an ambiance ^^

dloeke · 01/07/2007, 03:27 pm

It's hard to decide which one is the ultimate Sam & Max-episode yet released, but I think the second episode is slightly better. The characters, particularely Sam, Max and Bosco, are more alive and hilarious than ever, and that makes the entire episode sparkle with charm!

I admire the Telltale-gang for what they have managed to pull off!

Lysandus · 01/07/2007, 04:09 pm

Yeah, I wasn't so fond of Bosco in the first episode, but I'm really starting to like him now. Great characters in general, especially the director and Hugh Bliss, definitely a step up from episode 1. Sybil is still very hum-drum and "too normal" though.

dunkpork · 01/07/2007, 06:50 pm

I have to say, almost everything was better in this game. I thought the humor was improved, as well as the puzzles, and I liked the animation/models.

My main complaint is that it was way too short. The first one took me about 3.5 hours. This one took about 2 hours. I don't think it should necessarily be way more difficult, I'd just like some extra content here and there. Maybe a little mini-game in each episode?

ghostgurl · 01/07/2007, 07:25 pm

I did like episode 2 better. It was short, but lots of fun.

Matze · 01/07/2007, 08:43 pm

I liked episode 2 even more than the first one. The humor was better, and the tv-show riddles where just great! I hope EP3 will even top this!

Kazzahdrane · 01/07/2007, 10:42 pm

I LOVE HUGH BLISS.

I just wanted to put that out there. Annoying as hell on paper, but his voice is really funny and the whole character made me smile. Hopefully he'll be back in later episodes! Bosco was also much funnier this ep, his "British" impression was pretty funny (speaking as a "Brit") - would be cool if he had a different disguise every episode, though that joke might get old.

Episode 2 seemed much shorter to me, but I think it was because there wasn't much to do around S&M's office, just a couple of puzzles and not a single thing to do in their actual office. To be honest, I'd like to see subsequent episodes move away from their neighbourhood rather than just re-use the same characters and locations at the start of every case. Especially when Telltale made such good new environments this episode, the TV studio was great and I laughed quite a few times when the shows were "on-air".

Episode 2 gets my vote, just a little longer and more difficult next time eh?

01/07/2007, 12:30 am	#1
Jordan Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 35	Episode 1 vs Episode 2? Thoughts? Personally I liked Episode 2 better. The jokes made me laugh, rather than smirk. The villian had more personality and life, and the third party characters were hilarious (Bosco is by far the best, but Hugh Bliss was good). The whole episode was shorter it seemed, but I wouldn't say the difficulty level was any different. The trickiest part for me took 5 minutes to figure out instead of 4. What I like best is the scenery, the whole television studio set had this darker bizarre aura that gave the true feeling of a Sam and Max game, kinda like some of the locations in HTR. Maybe its just the nostalgia kicking in, but I felt like I was in Rubacava in Grim Fandango. Episode 1 has the outside of the creepy theater clinic, but you dont spend much time there and its all laughs and giggles and organs inside, not nearly wierd enough.

01/07/2007, 02:00 pm	#14
Astro Gnocci Buck Naked - Texas Ranger Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 683	well, that's right, i haven't thought much of the structure of the game... it's just that when you say "a monkey island feel", i expect something more of an ambiance ^^ __________________ Drink Cheap, Evil-Smellin Beer Everyday of Your Life.

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01/07/2007, 12:43 am	#2
numble Glottal stop Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Super Happy Farmland Posts: 524	NO, do not compare the TV studio to Rubacava!

01/07/2007, 12:45 am	#3
Rasher Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 256	I loved the second episode more than the first. You're right about the fact that it was laugh out loud funny, and much more zany. I even found myself laughing at the solutions to puzzles before I even tried them. I went through the whole game in one sitting, and never wanted to put the game down. Good thing I had the morning off This episode did feel shorter than the first, but that could be because I enjoyed it so much. Looking forward to Episode 3.

01/07/2007, 08:51 am	#5
Welshy Welshy Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 113	Can butterflies fly.... Sams expression at that moment simply made episode 2 for me, i loved it

01/07/2007, 10:02 am	#7
Col_Shaggy Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 82	I was through Epi2 quicker than the first but I think that's because I played Epi1 first and my mind was back into the puzzle solving mode. Episode 1 took my about two days to finish, whereas 2 took me a few hours, but I ran into similar trouble when I first started playing Hit The Road after a long long hiatus. I think people saying that it's shorter or easier just don't realize the change in thinking that occurs when figuring out episodes 1. Maybe I'm wrong, but regardless, The humor on the weak end is just as good as HTR and the comics and even excels beyond all of that on the high end. Whether it's toddler easy or not doesn't matter because it's still a riot to play through over and over again.

01/07/2007, 10:56 am	#8
Erwin Probably hiding a cow. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Apeldoorn, The Netherlands Posts: 378	They're both pretty much equal to me, although I do think Episode 2 is somewhat more solid. Everything fits in a little better, if you know what I mean. The difference is minuscule, which shouldn't be surprising since Ep. 2 was well underway when its predecessor premiered on GameTap. --Erwin

01/07/2007, 12:52 pm	#9
zebulon Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 7	One thing cracked me up in episode 2: the facial expressions (and the animations in general). Much better than in episode 1, except for those huge foreheads Sam and Max had sometimes The negative point: it seemed shorter than episode 1. But we'll have another one in 1 month. Keep them coming, boys!

01/07/2007, 01:11 pm	#10
Larrin Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 12	So far I've found Episode 2 better overall than the first. It does have a distinct Monkey Island feel to me though. I haven't decided if that's good or bad, but I loved all of the Monkey Island games, so I guess it's good for me. It's also harder than the first episode for me, and it looks like it will take me longer, but I only play in burts of 30 minutes or so; I suppose difficulty and length would vary some from person to person.

01/07/2007, 01:30 pm	#12
Lysandus Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 33	Structurally, yes, it felt very Monkey Island to me too. It has the feeling of a Monkey Island "act" where you have to perform 3 big tasks in any order you want, usually broken down into a couple of smaller tasks each. In comparison to episode 1, I think this was even more non-linear, almost totally so except for the first shaving cream and last defeating Myra puzzle. Which is good, it gives it a very organic and "game like" feel, though it also makes the game feel a bit aimless at times. For example, why would you even want to tape that sitcom before you knew why, or do any of the other shows? It probably would've been better to place the door to Myra's studio right at the start. Give a bit more direction earlier on, don't make us accidentally solve puzzles before they're even put to us. Episode 1 suffered from this problem far less. Still great, though, of course! Loved both!

01/07/2007, 03:27 pm	#15
dloeke Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 95	It's hard to decide which one is the ultimate Sam & Max-episode yet released, but I think the second episode is slightly better. The characters, particularely Sam, Max and Bosco, are more alive and hilarious than ever, and that makes the entire episode sparkle with charm! I admire the Telltale-gang for what they have managed to pull off!

01/07/2007, 04:09 pm	#16
Lysandus Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 33	Yeah, I wasn't so fond of Bosco in the first episode, but I'm really starting to like him now. Great characters in general, especially the director and Hugh Bliss, definitely a step up from episode 1. Sybil is still very hum-drum and "too normal" though.

01/07/2007, 06:50 pm	#17
dunkpork Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 86	I have to say, almost everything was better in this game. I thought the humor was improved, as well as the puzzles, and I liked the animation/models. My main complaint is that it was way too short. The first one took me about 3.5 hours. This one took about 2 hours. I don't think it should necessarily be way more difficult, I'd just like some extra content here and there. Maybe a little mini-game in each episode?

01/07/2007, 07:25 pm	#18
ghostgurl Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 18	I did like episode 2 better. It was short, but lots of fun.

01/07/2007, 08:43 pm	#19
Matze Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 49	I liked episode 2 even more than the first one. The humor was better, and the tv-show riddles where just great! I hope EP3 will even top this!

01/07/2007, 10:42 pm	#20
Kazzahdrane Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5	I LOVE HUGH BLISS. I just wanted to put that out there. Annoying as hell on paper, but his voice is really funny and the whole character made me smile. Hopefully he'll be back in later episodes! Bosco was also much funnier this ep, his "British" impression was pretty funny (speaking as a "Brit") - would be cool if he had a different disguise every episode, though that joke might get old. Episode 2 seemed much shorter to me, but I think it was because there wasn't much to do around S&M's office, just a couple of puzzles and not a single thing to do in their actual office. To be honest, I'd like to see subsequent episodes move away from their neighbourhood rather than just re-use the same characters and locations at the start of every case. Especially when Telltale made such good new environments this episode, the TV studio was great and I laughed quite a few times when the shows were "on-air". Episode 2 gets my vote, just a little longer and more difficult next time eh?