Model reuse (No blame thread)

[Sanin92]

I'm just wondering, what characters had reused models, and what had models just for themselves?

Guybrush of course has a model just ofr himself, right?And I guess LeChuck got one too.

But what about Morgan and Elaine, did they have the same model (body?) or were they completelly different ones?

Newspaper boy, D'oro and the one on Spoon Island where the same, and all the thin pirates too I guess.

But what with Winslow, was he the same fat model?I couldn't really get it, he kinda saw different from all of them, or am I mistaken?

Any other model reuse?

[Guinea]

I think the only models (for humans) in the game were Guybrush, LeChuck, Elaine, Voodoo Lady, DeSinge, possibly Morgan, Fat Guy and Thin Guy.

And the mer... persons all had the same model, too, if I saw that right.

[guitarsareboring]

I'm thought Morgan and Elaine were essentially the same model with a few minor tweaks. I'm probably wrong however.

[Pirateguybrush]

Winslow was fat guy. I'm getting tired of the model reuse.

[Fealiks]

It did get a little annoying. The most annoying thing about it, though, was that the generic fat and thin guys had prominent bulges below their eyes, making them more identifiable (which is bad for a generic model).

[wisp]

they did a good job in episode two however. the pirates looked different enough not to notice the same models all the time. in the first part is was really worse, especially in that scene were nipperkin walks past winslow. also, at first i though that the glassblower guy was the same pirate that gets punched in the face right after guybrush landed.

so far in spinner cay, the only character were the model reuse bothers me, is winslow. he should have his own model, since he will probably be present in every episode. having him look similar to all the generic pirates is somewhat strange.

well, on the other hand...take a look at escape from monkey island...they had like two models for general pirates as well and they all looked exactly the same..and also quite ugly.

[Randulf]

By doing something interesting with eyes and especially mouths, TT managed to instill some individuality to their stock models. The tall pirate on the shore of Spoon Island is actually done quite well.

[Avistew]

Originally Posted by wisp

they did a good job in episode two however. the pirates looked different enough not to notice the same models all the time. in the first part is was really worse, especially in that scene were nipperkin walks past winslow. also, at first i though that the glassblower guy was the same pirate that gets punched in the face right after guybrush landed.

so far in spinner cay, the only character were the model reuse bothers me, is winslow. he should have his own model, since he will probably be present in every episode. having him look similar to all the generic pirates is somewhat strange.

well, on the other hand...take a look at escape from monkey island...they had like two models for general pirates as well and they all looked exactly the same..and also quite ugly.

I usually don't quote a whole post, but I agree with everything you said. I too thought the glassblower was the guy you punched in the face. I too got annoyed in the first chapter that there were only 2 ways the characters looked.
And I too thought chapter two was a lot better. Thanks for that, guys.

It seemed to me that Morgan had bigger thighs than Elaine, but I could be wrong. You don't really see them side by side, or in similar postures, to really compare.

[TofuHead]

I still recognized the pirate holding the seahorse artifact despite the recolour.. I'm pretty disappointed. Interesting characters has always been a strongsuit of the series. Make every character memorable or don't make them at all. They might have different voice actors but it's pretty damn obvious and it's really annoying since I can't stand the pear-head model they used for the newspaper guy, D'oro the doll guy, Winslow AND the chubby guy on the beach. I'm always reminded of Jimmy Neutron by that one.

[Fury]

Episode 2 was better, as 1 was a bit crap.

The model reusing is the only downside of TOMI in my opinion.

[Pretender]

It's weird, because it makes the engine seem VERY limited. I'm sure it wouldn't take THAT long to have different character models. In many games even the players can change the faces and make them look vastly different, so I don't see how Telltale after 3 years wasn't able to improve on this very apparent problem. I still liked chapter 2, but the model reuse is just a big downside... unfortunate really.

[Pirateguybrush]

It's the minor characters people remember and love in the MI series. Murray, Kenny, Haggis McMutton, Largo, LeChimp, Wally, Lemonhead. This is something that needs fixing.

[wisp]

who's kenny?

Originally Posted by Pretender

It's weird, because it makes the engine seem VERY limited.

i don't think it's a limitation from the engine. hasn't it been said, that the reuse of the pirate models is to save resources mostly, so the wii version won't get problems?
on the other hand creating entirely new characters does need some time and so far most telltale games had only a handful of characters. it's also a time thing, i guess..

[der_ketzer]

The Books all had the same model.

[Tim]

Originally Posted by wisp

who's kenny?.

Lemonade guy from Curse of Monkey Island:

[Pirateguybrush]

He also sells cannons and was voiced by Garry Coleman.

[Pirateguybrush]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0134599/fullcredits#cast

Read through the cast. You can recognise almost every character in it. The only characters who's faces I can't remember are Snowcone Guy, Wharf Rat and La Foot (and of course the generic swordfighting pirates. I'm already forgetting TOMI characters.

[wisp]

ohh, that little brat...yeah, he was annoying enough so i should have remembered him. i just recently replayed curse...

..but you see, he had entirely different graphics than all the other characters and i still forgot his name.

[Avistew]

You forgot his name, sure, but you can replace him now. You probably have an image of what he looks like.
For a lot of the ToMI characters you'll have to ask "is he one of the tall guys or one of the short guys?".
It hasn't been very long but I'm already mixing up some of the characters, especially the tall ones.
Winslow is an important character so far, with a clear personality and it looks like he's sticking around. Yet he's mostly made different by having a different skin tone.

I have a lot less of a problem with the whole thing with episode 2 though, as I said earlier. In Episode 1, I mixed some characters together. In episode 2, I didn't.
Hopefully episode 3 will be more like 2 than 1. But I can definitely understand why it would be less time-consuming to have the NPC look similar to each other.

I guess that's one good thing about 2D: the characters all look different and unique.

(To be fair, I think the characters also look BETTER in 2D than they do in 3D. I still feel that CoMI looks better aesthetically that ToMI does. Plus it doesn't have that confusing way of moving Guybrush by holding down the mouse button ad picking a direction. I still don't get why it's not point & click like the Sam and Max games are.)

[Tacobob]

Originally Posted by Pirateguybrush

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0134599/fullcredits#cast

Read through the cast. You can recognise almost every character in it. The only characters who's faces I can't remember are Snowcone Guy, Wharf Rat and La Foot (and of course the generic swordfighting pirates. I'm already forgetting TOMI characters.

Wharf Rat And Snowcone guys were employees at the Big Whoop! The Rat is the guy in the giant rat costume who throws a pie at you, and isn't too keen about this job. And the Snowcone guy er..sells snowcones, which help you defeat LeChuck's spell.