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Old 08/21/2009, 08:36 pm   #1
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Spoilers! Science related plothole for TMI2

Guybrush has to melt down the pyrite parrot in order to fit it into the turtle mold. I always thought that pyrite doesn't melt under high temperatures. Instead it smolders and fills the air with a strong sulfur smell. In fact that's one of the ways to tell it from real gold.
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Old 08/21/2009, 08:43 pm   #2
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Maybe it's a magical... ancient... barbeque... thingy...
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Old 08/21/2009, 09:04 pm   #3
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Maybe it's fool's pyrite!
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Old 08/21/2009, 10:03 pm   #4
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I see.
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Old 08/21/2009, 10:17 pm   #5
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Maybe it's fool's pyrite!
I lol'd, and stand firmly with this explanation!
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Old 08/21/2009, 11:35 pm   #6
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Well, the pyrite came from a Voodoo lady's shop. Who knows what properties it has.
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Old 08/22/2009, 12:08 am   #7
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I sincerely hope you made this thread just for the sake of argument, and not as a serious plothole...
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Old 08/22/2009, 12:25 am   #8
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I'm positive this was intended.. Monkey Island humor don't you think? Melting something that doesn't melt?
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Old 08/22/2009, 01:57 am   #9
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I'm positive this was intended.. Monkey Island humor don't you think? Melting something that doesn't melt?
Actually, making the item you're supposed to melt a mineral that doesn't melt is kind of a bad solution to a puzzle.

Apparently when Pyrite is burned, it just turns into pyrrhotite and gives off sulfur gas

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Old 08/22/2009, 11:11 am   #10
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Actually, making the item you're supposed to melt a mineral that doesn't melt is kind of a bad solution to a puzzle.

Apparently when Pyrite is burned, it just turns into pyrrhotite and gives off sulfur gas
Have you tried that on MAGICAL pyrite? 0_0
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Old 08/22/2009, 11:57 am   #11
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i already wondered about it here...and i am pretty sure you can't smelt down pyrite like in the game. in fact it would probably be quite difficult to shape it like a parrot as well. so, it's got to be magic...or maybe because it's fool's gold, only a fool can handle it like real gold.
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Old 08/22/2009, 12:18 pm   #12
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i like how we're debating if we can melt down pyrite on a barbecue built by mermaids.
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Old 08/22/2009, 12:23 pm   #13
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Well suspension of disbelief has to be maintained realistically. For example in the recent movie District 9

(minor spoilers follow, be warned - but it's not a great movie)

the main character starts turning into an alien because he gets splashed by....alien petrol. Sure. Aliens I can buy. A guy turning into an alien.....maybe - if it was some kind of biological weapon, or the aliens are actually creatures who use other organisms as hosts and transform their bodies....but alien petrol? Nope.

That's why melting pyrite is also an irritating stretch.
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Old 08/22/2009, 12:38 pm   #14
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I think Monkey Island games overall can be described as a science related plothole.
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Old 08/22/2009, 12:50 pm   #15
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But you're fine with it being perfectly reformed into a parrot at the end of the episode?. Besides which, it's called a pyrite parrot, but that doesn't mean it's actually made from pyrite. It's actually made of a super-light gold alloy. The Voodoo Lady was just saying that to throw all those pirates off the scent!
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Old 08/22/2009, 01:18 pm   #16
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Also, who can hold their breath underwater for 10 min? It's scientifically impossible!!! I can only do 9, tops.

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Old 08/22/2009, 02:15 pm   #17
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I thought you were you going to complain about the rubber tree .

Shame on you! :-P
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i like how we're debating if we can melt down pyrite on a barbecue built by mermaids.
This says it all.
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Old 08/22/2009, 02:21 pm   #19
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The puzzle confused me for a second, not because I thought that fool's gold wouldn't melt, but because I didn't remember that Pyrite is another word for Fool's Gold. Yes, I learned it at some point, but I had completely forgotten about it. Also, the parrot seemed like such a nice companion that I just couldn't imagine melting him down ... at least for all of five minutes.
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Old 08/22/2009, 02:37 pm   #20
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hehe, actually that was the first thing i tried...putting the parrot on the furnace/barbecue even before i had the coal to fire it up. guybrush seemed to be annoyed by the parrot over time and i got the impression that he liked the idea. so parrot and barbecue sounded tempting to me from the start..ragardless from what material the parrot is made and how it might behave when heated..
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