Brutal Legend

[Wolfstar27]

I know this hasnt got anything to do with Monkey Island,But is anyone looking forward to this game done by Tim Schafer and starring Jack Black...coming out on October 16th in the UK

[Linque]

Mixed feelings. I was hyped at first, but I've got pretty bored of hack and slash games in general.

[Lena_P]

Um, number three? I'm not big on 70's rock and spurting testosterone, but I'm always willing to give Double Fine a chance. Could there be a "interested but kind of confused" option?

[Secret Fawful]

It has TIM CURRY. That is enough to get my interest into anything. If he was playing an ice cream vendor selling ice cream to a coconut on a deserted island for three hours my butt would be in the theater to watch it.

[SHODANFreeman]

Originally Posted by Secret Fawful

It has TIM CURRY. That is enough to get my interest into anything. If he was playing an ice cream vendor selling ice cream to a coconut on a deserted island for three hours my butt would be in the theater to watch it.

I <3 Tim Curry.

[patters]

Originally Posted by Lena_P

Um, number three? I'm not big on 70's rock and spurting testosterone, but I'm always willing to give Double Fine a chance. Could there be a "interested but kind of confused" option?

80's and later...pfft.

[Rawr]

Would of liked a more inbetween option, but I'm nearer Hell yeah!! than the other option, so chose that. Looks really good. Might not buy the game straight away though.

[Hayden]

Looks good! There are some very good songs in the soundtrack but I was a little disappointed when I didn't see any Iron Maiden in the list! But the game is a very good idea in my opinion and some of the environments are just amazing! I've seen a couple of gameplay and it looks very cool and there are some awesome looking vehicles... too bad I don't have an XBOX 360 or a Playstation 3 : ( Oh well, video games aren't everything (unless it's Monkey Island).

[Masquerade]

I think too many people are looking at this title from a genre/gameplay standpoint rather than the team behind it. Psychonauts was a rather outdated platformer upon release - especially when the likes of Ratchet & Clank and Jak and Daxter were still in full effect - yet that did not prevent it from being one of the most enjoyable gaming experiences due to the brilliant art direction, voice cast and writing. So rather than saying "this game shall not appeal to me" before playing it: just purchase it and see what happens.

[Tyraa Rane]

Well, it's console-exclusive, and I'm one of those crazed PC-exclusive gamers...but way back in the day, I think I would've considered buying a console to be able to play the game, more or less.

Then came the first of the marketing bonanza, with the spurting testosterone and gratuitous use of scantily clad, impossibly built women as props for the main character, and/or to sell the game.

...I think I may have broken some sort of record for how fast I lost interest in the game after that. (Which I still feel is a real shame, because I'm a big fan of all of Tim Schafer's other work, and up until that point, the game was looking truly awesome. I wish Double Fine all the best, but...I can't get past the epic marketing fail; sorry.)

[Masquerade]

Originally Posted by Tyraa Rane

but...I can't get past the epic marketing fail

Heh, I think that is the first time I have ever heard someone use marketing as an excuse. Strange times.

[SHODANFreeman]

Anyone who likes metal, hack 'n slash, Jack Black, OR Tim Schafer should like this game.

Luckily, I love ALL of those things.

[Frogacuda]

Originally Posted by Linque

Mixed feelings. I was hyped at first, but I've got pretty bored of hack and slash games in general.

The game seems a bit more like an in-between between hack and slash and zelda, though. There are puzzles and exploration and a big continuous world.

[Frogacuda]

Originally Posted by Tyraa Rane

Then came the first of the marketing bonanza, with the spurting testosterone and gratuitous use of scantily clad, impossibly built women as props for the main character, and/or to sell the game.

Honeslty, this is one of the few times you can say those sorts are completely justified by the game's concept. You can't have a game based on the world of heavy metal covers and frank frazetta paintings without amazonian warrior women.

Trust me, this is NOT a game driven by marketing. Schafer had to fight hard to keep from compromising his vision for the sake of marketing, in fact.

Originally Posted by Masquerade

Psychonauts was a rather outdated platformer upon release - especially when the likes of Ratchet & Clank and Jak and Daxter were still in full effect

In the sense that it was a platformer, perhaps. J&D and R&C were cartoony mascot games that happened to have a jump button, but they were holding onto "platformer" gameplay by a strand.

[Badwolf]

Originally Posted by Frogacuda

J&D and R&C were cartoony mascot games that happened to have a jump button, but they were holding onto "platformer" gameplay by a strand.

The first Jak and Daxter was definitely a platformer. Not a gun in sight, if that's what you were meaning.

[Tyraa Rane]

Originally Posted by Frogacuda

Honeslty, this is one of the few times you can say those sorts are completely justified by the game's concept. You can't have a game based on the world of heavy metal covers and frank frazetta paintings without amazonian warrior women.

Someone said something similar to me when I brought up my objections to the original teaser trailer, and I stand by what I said then: no, it's not justified, and yes, IMHO, you could do the game without the so-called Amazonians. ...Or at least you could do the game without the Amazonians who look like they've removed a few ribs, and/or are a nasty spinal injury waiting to happen. Look at Full Throttle--given the story's biker roots, it could've devolved into this sort of nonsense, if given the chance. (Or if the wrong marketing department got its hands on it.) It didn't. And nobody saw a need to give Ben a harem, either.

I agree with you that the game isn't marketing driven (Tim's games never are), and perhaps I phrased my first post badly. Still, marketing driven or no, those images raised my hackles the first time I saw them--and still do.

[Masquerade]

Originally Posted by Frogacuda

In the sense that it was a platformer, perhaps. J&D and R&C were cartoony mascot games that happened to have a jump button, but they were holding onto "platformer" gameplay by a strand.

I think you shall find that Ratchet & Clank as well as Jak and Daxter essentially epitomized what was so great about the Platforming genre, just as the likes of Crash Bandicoot had done years earlier. The gameplay was sharp, refined and well executed. Whereas Psychonauts felt very stiff upon occasion and were it simply a platforming game without Double Fine's characterization and script - I think it would have failed to make much news at all.

Originally Posted by Tyraa Rane

Someone said something similar to me when I brought up my objections to the original teaser trailer, and I stand by what I said then: no, it's not justified, and yes, IMHO, you could do the game without the so-called Amazonians. ...Or at least you could do the game without the Amazonians who look like they've removed a few ribs, and/or are a nasty spinal injury waiting to happen. Look at Full Throttle--given the story's biker roots, it could've devolved into this sort of nonsense, if given the chance. (Or if the wrong marketing department got its hands on it.) It didn't. And nobody saw a need to give Ben a harem, either.

Please tell me you are joking and not suffering from an extreme case of the highfalutin? This game is aimed at a Mature audience and I would hope you had the ability to realize it. The art design is heavily stylized and if you are incapable of understanding that I am completely dumbfounded. Please just do an image search for "Frank Frazetta" or "Metal Album Covers" before going completely AWOL and blaming Double Fine.



And Psychonauts was no different.

[Tyraa Rane]

Originally Posted by Masquerade

Please tell me you are joking and not suffering from an extreme case of the highfalutin? This game is aimed at a Mature audience and I would hope you had the ability to realize it. The art design is heavily stylized and if you are incapable of understanding that I am completely dumbfounded. Please just do an image search for "Frank Frazetta" or "Metal Album Covers" before going completely AWOL and blaming Double Fine.

Um? Believe me, I'm well aware that it's aimed at a mature audience. And no, I'm not joking: that's just my opinion. You're more than welcome to disagree with it if you like, but insulting my intelligence is completely unnecessary.

As for the images you posted--I don't take issue with the entire art style. Not in the slightest. What I do take issue with is the way many of the female characters have been designed. As for your Psychonauts comparison...sorry, but that one's lost on me. There's a world of difference in character design between the two games.

[Astro Gnocci]

Rock n roll, and heavy metal even more, has always been mainly something made by retarded teenagers for retarded teenagers, so yeah, it's filled with every damn cliché about women you could possibly think about.
I understand that this might be the reason for not liking it, but it also means that you just CANT possibly get rid of those if you're going to deal with it.

(and please don't get me wrong : i do love that stuff and i'm clearly one of the retarded teenagers mentionned above )

[SHODANFreeman]

There are more shirtless musclebound oafs in the screenshots I've seen than scantily clad women of loose morals.