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darknessofheart · 09/01/2009, 07:50 pm

This is just a thread to express some appreciation to one of the best aspects of chapter 2 in tales. It finally, and I do stress finally, showed that Guybrush may be an oaf at times and incompetent, but at the bottom of it all he can be a badass and is more than capable at holding his own in a fight.

I was so shocked when I saw just how skilled Guybrush was at sword fighting since the previous games never showed it aside from swings and he was always made fun of by literally everyone, from other pirates right down to monkeys and figureheads. By Escape, Guybrush became a joke of a pirate to a lot of eyes, but this chapter finally shows that Guybrush truly is a pirate. Aside from that, his reputation has finally spread. Guybrush has done many thought to be impossible tasks: destroying LeChuck four times, discovering big whoop, escaping the carnival of damned, capturing pegnose pete, mastering the ultimate insult, and much more. He did it all through wit, some luck, and many crimes, but very impressive none the least.

It's just a nice bonus to see that Guybrush is being handled much more seriously and even Armato is doing an excellent job in giving Guybrush more emotional concern for some people and his mistakes. You can truly hear the concern in his voice when he hears Elaine scream for help when that statue fell on her and when he realized that he needs to cure Elaine in addition to the Caribbean. The hook he has now instead of his poxed hand personifies the new edge Guybrush has at long last. It's been a very long time coming, but it finally happened. Telltale deserves a lot of appreciation for this.

darknessofheart · 09/05/2009, 08:36 pm

No thoughts....yeah, I'm very bored at the moment.

Spadge · 09/05/2009, 10:34 pm

What can I say... I agree. Guybrush is becoming a Mighty Pirate. He's done so much over the years, he deserves it. I just hope he doesn't retire anytime soon.

tbm1986 · 09/06/2009, 09:02 am

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Originally Posted by Spadge

What can I say... I agree. Guybrush is becoming a Mighty Pirate. He's done so much over the years, he deserves it. I just hope he doesn't retire anytime soon.

I don't think his incompetence will let him retire anytime soon!

Ash735 · 09/07/2009, 10:12 am

Wasn't this a major complaint from a reviewer? That Guybrush isn't the dorky kid anymore but has become just a generic cool like character.

Spadge · 09/07/2009, 10:22 am

Oh, he's still dorky, but he had 5 games to grow up a little. It's just how things are. Sooner or later it had to happen.

Ash735 · 09/07/2009, 10:28 am

I actually think it's good he's grown up, I mean, 10 years older is going to affect a person somehow and have them mature, Guybrush being a bit more witty and cunning about things would just suit the type of Pirate he is.

Sir Pantalones · 09/07/2009, 11:14 am

Lotsa reviewers have complained about this, but I actually think it's really well balanced; it's obvious that he's still the same guy as before, but it also shows that some years have passed during the huge adventure between EfMI and ToMI, during which he has matured to some degree.

And where is the 10 years stuff coming from? I've always pictured Monkey Island as being relatively timeless when it comes to chronologic matters, except the order of the games.

Marzhin · 09/07/2009, 11:21 am

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Originally Posted by Sir Pantalones

And where is the 10 years stuff coming from? I've always pictured Monkey Island as being relatively timeless when it comes to chronologic matters, except the order of the games.

In the prologue Screaming Narwhal, if you click on the door aboard Guybrush's ship, he'll say he have "a decade worth of booty" aboard the ship. So we can assume there have been 1O years or so between his humble beginnings as a pirate (in Secret of MI) and Tales of MI.

Fealiks · 09/07/2009, 11:37 am

I think they've got the balance right in this game.

In EMI he was hopelessly weak and dimwitted, but he was utterly famous (Planet Threepwood... *shudder*). In this one his character is a little more realistic (that is, the fact that he always accomplishes what he needs to accomplish no longer coexists with him being retarded), and so far there has been one person who's heard of him, and let's hope it stays that way. I want them to go to Planet Threepwood and realise that it's all about a different Guybrush Threepwood so my soul can rest.

Guybrush Threepwood shouldn't have more than one (maybe two at a push) fan(s), but he shouldn't be an idiot either.

tbm1986 · 09/07/2009, 12:41 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marzhin

In the prologue Screaming Narwhal, if you click on the door aboard Guybrush's ship, he'll say he have "a decade worth of booty" aboard the ship. So we can assume there have been 1O years or so between his humble beginnings as a pirate (in Secret of MI) and Tales of MI.

I think that was TT breaking the 4th wall (EMI 1999 - TMI 2009)

Jace Taran · 09/07/2009, 08:55 pm

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Originally Posted by tbm1986

I think that was TT breaking the 4th wall (EMI 1999 - TMI 2009)

EMI came out in 2000, not 1999. Anyway, I don't think that's what they were going for. It's been hinted at throughout Tales that Guybrush has had quite a few years as a pirate under his belt since the beginning.

octochan · 09/08/2009, 06:57 am

I'm really glad they did that! As much as we want to see our favourite characters being the same people they were years ago, I'm all for some character development! And despite how vague the MI timeline is, it's pretty obvious Guybrush isn't 19 anymore, and he has something to show for it. You'd think a guy who's mastered every known style of insult fighting would have some eventually developed some real fighting skills to back it up.

And all continuity issues aside, I was thrilled that we finally got an actual sword-fighting, Errol Flynning setpiece! I mean, insult sword fighting is funny, but hardly exhilarating.

Shale · 09/08/2009, 07:20 am

The Flynning was great, and I for one really appreciated the fact that the one person who recognizes the sheer amount of stuff Guybrush has a accomplished as a pirate is also the one who's there to cut off his hand and kidnap him for mad science.

09/01/2009, 07:50 pm	#1
darknessofheart Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Point A to Point B to Point C Posts: 436	A new edge to Guybrush: Spoilers This is just a thread to express some appreciation to one of the best aspects of chapter 2 in tales. It finally, and I do stress finally, showed that Guybrush may be an oaf at times and incompetent, but at the bottom of it all he can be a badass and is more than capable at holding his own in a fight. I was so shocked when I saw just how skilled Guybrush was at sword fighting since the previous games never showed it aside from swings and he was always made fun of by literally everyone, from other pirates right down to monkeys and figureheads. By Escape, Guybrush became a joke of a pirate to a lot of eyes, but this chapter finally shows that Guybrush truly is a pirate. Aside from that, his reputation has finally spread. Guybrush has done many thought to be impossible tasks: destroying LeChuck four times, discovering big whoop, escaping the carnival of damned, capturing pegnose pete, mastering the ultimate insult, and much more. He did it all through wit, some luck, and many crimes, but very impressive none the least. It's just a nice bonus to see that Guybrush is being handled much more seriously and even Armato is doing an excellent job in giving Guybrush more emotional concern for some people and his mistakes. You can truly hear the concern in his voice when he hears Elaine scream for help when that statue fell on her and when he realized that he needs to cure Elaine in addition to the Caribbean. The hook he has now instead of his poxed hand personifies the new edge Guybrush has at long last. It's been a very long time coming, but it finally happened. Telltale deserves a lot of appreciation for this. Last edited by darknessofheart; 09/05/2009 at 08:36 pm.

09/07/2009, 11:37 am	#10
Fealiks Adolescent Caucasian Male Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: England Posts: 1,507	I think they've got the balance right in this game. In EMI he was hopelessly weak and dimwitted, but he was utterly famous (Planet Threepwood... shudder). In this one his character is a little more realistic (that is, the fact that he always accomplishes what he needs to accomplish no longer coexists with him being retarded), and so far there has been one person who's heard of him, and let's hope it stays that way. I want them to go to Planet Threepwood and realise that it's all about a different Guybrush Threepwood so my soul can rest. Guybrush Threepwood shouldn't have more than one (maybe two at a push) fan(s), but he shouldn't be an idiot either. __________________ My webcomic

09/08/2009, 06:57 am	#13
octochan cephalopod of DESTINY! Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 192	I'm really glad they did that! As much as we want to see our favourite characters being the same people they were years ago, I'm all for some character development! And despite how vague the MI timeline is, it's pretty obvious Guybrush isn't 19 anymore, and he has something to show for it. You'd think a guy who's mastered every known style of insult fighting would have some eventually developed some real fighting skills to back it up. And all continuity issues aside, I was thrilled that we finally got an actual sword-fighting, Errol Flynning setpiece! I mean, insult sword fighting is funny, but hardly exhilarating. __________________ You remind me of the game. What game? The game with the power. What power? The power of voodoo. Who do? You do! Do what? Remind me of the game.

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09/05/2009, 08:36 pm	#2
darknessofheart Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Point A to Point B to Point C Posts: 436	No thoughts....yeah, I'm very bored at the moment.

09/05/2009, 10:34 pm	#3
Spadge Not a Guru Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bulgaria Posts: 832	What can I say... I agree. Guybrush is becoming a Mighty Pirate. He's done so much over the years, he deserves it. I just hope he doesn't retire anytime soon.

09/07/2009, 10:12 am	#5
Ash735 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 1,149	Wasn't this a major complaint from a reviewer? That Guybrush isn't the dorky kid anymore but has become just a generic cool like character.

09/07/2009, 10:22 am	#6
Spadge Not a Guru Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bulgaria Posts: 832	Oh, he's still dorky, but he had 5 games to grow up a little. It's just how things are. Sooner or later it had to happen.

09/07/2009, 10:28 am	#7
Ash735 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 1,149	I actually think it's good he's grown up, I mean, 10 years older is going to affect a person somehow and have them mature, Guybrush being a bit more witty and cunning about things would just suit the type of Pirate he is.

09/07/2009, 11:14 am	#8
Sir Pantalones Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 324	Lotsa reviewers have complained about this, but I actually think it's really well balanced; it's obvious that he's still the same guy as before, but it also shows that some years have passed during the huge adventure between EfMI and ToMI, during which he has matured to some degree. And where is the 10 years stuff coming from? I've always pictured Monkey Island as being relatively timeless when it comes to chronologic matters, except the order of the games.

09/08/2009, 07:20 am	#14
Shale Mitey pirate™! Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 178	The Flynning was great, and I for one really appreciated the fact that the one person who recognizes the sheer amount of stuff Guybrush has a accomplished as a pirate is also the one who's there to cut off his hand and kidnap him for mad science.