DeSinge - anyone else not care?

[Armand1880]

Minor Spoilers...
From the very first episode - I didn't care about DeSinge.
Monkey Island has always been great about taking characters who are small - who are merely there to entertain, or to even change the direction of the plot - and make you care about them or enjoy them. DeSinge - I didn't like him, and even though he did change the direction of the plot (sending Morgan after Guybrush, causing Guybrush to lose a hand, having Morgan bring him back to Flotsam, taking focus off of the real villain, the final confrontation...) I didn't care about him, and I feel like he is one of the most forgettable characters in MI history. I guess what I am saying is that this is the first MI character that I've encountered who, even though might be important to the plot, I didn't care about. I'm not going to say he is the most unlikable character in the whole series, but he ranks up there.

I understand his role, I get why he is there - I just didn't care about him at all. Every time he was referenced I thought - oh geeze, guess they've got to bring him up again. Didn't like him, didn't care about him - which stinks, because I feel like I care about most MI characters - even the little ones. (I always wished Capt. Smirk would have come back up - MI2 or MI3 or something).

Another point - I feel like this is the first Monkey Island game with really really forgettable characters. anyone else feel that way? All the other games seemed to have great supporting players (even EMI) but this one...most of them are just forgettable. thoughts?

[janezkranjc]

i thought he was funny

[Falanca]

He was indeed a plot device in sissy pants, and an unlikeable character. Though, the character did offer new (yet mostly minor) aspects to the franchise, then died before the jokes about him go old and unfunny. I always found it a little funny when the other characters harassed him and/or made fun of him, I believe he was designed to be unlikeable BECAUSE of that. Making fun of him is so much fun.

I still can't get out his line out of my head, "I could literally taste my underpants", or something similar to that. I was just... happy, because he was in pain, I guess.

Also I don't think I would ever forget Morgan. She is was, maybe a good addition, and not just because she's a "she". I really enjoyed the fact that she is a fan of Guybrush, AND she has to capture him. Winslow is also likeable. His remarks are awesome.

[syrup]

i didnt like him that much either, kinda irritating. Just like hugh bliss from sam and max, that guy makes me wanna eat my own face off, he's that annoying.

[Falanca]

Originally Posted by syrup

i didnt like him that much either, kinda irritating. Just like hugh bliss from sam and max, that guy makes me wanna eat my own face off, he's that annoying.

I also liked Hugh Bliss and him being the main villain. The final battle was epic, with setting and the puzzles and the musics and the ending and everything. Call me nuts, dunno.

[Rather Dashing]

The most forgettable? There are FAR more forgettable characters like, um...

...Well, I can't recall their names right now, but I'll get back to you on that.

On a more serious note, I liked DeSinge. His lab was one of the best locations in the game, he's certainly distinctive, and I thought his whole motivation was believable. He's also the source of almost every attempt at a "disturbing" moment, and I appreciate this. I think he's the catalyst for a lot of humorous not-so-subtle sexual jokes, as well. =p

There are some forgettable characters in Tales, though. Flotsam has a good number of pirates whose names I can't recall, and if I did I wouldn't really care about them. D'oro sticks out...like a thorn in your side. It better in Episode 2, though not "great". The characterization in episode 3 was pretty damn amazing, and I loved all the characters, even Murray(who unlike many here I expected to be an annoyance).

Also, considering the rather anti-climactic nature of his death and the fact that Guybrush died soon after? I don't think we've seen the last of him, and he may have a chance to redeem himself in the eyes of those that, well, don't like him.

[Scrawffler]

Hmm... well DeSinge isn't one of my favourite characters at the moment, however I did like him more towards the end of chapter 4, funnily enough. Didn't care for him so much in the first chapter, but I wouldn't call him "forgettable" personally either. I don't think he's as awesome and interesting as he was intended to be (or at least as I'd expected), but he's okay and pretty entertaining at times.

TMI does introduce some great new characters though. I think the main reason why some of them may be forgettable is because quite a few of them seem to be very similar to each other in personality, and often appearance too. Not as much variety in character design perhaps. But characters such as Morgan, Winslow and the Pyrite Parrot have been great additions to the cast and I will certainly not be forgetting them anytime soon. ^^

[Footnote]

Background: Other than Tales, I've only played through all of Secret and most of LeChuck's Revenge.

Although there are certainly a few 'throwaway' characters in Tales, I'd say the majority are as memorable as characters in the older games. It's really a matter of taste, I think. Characters that I think are forgettable may hold a special place in someone else's heart.

Not counting returning characters from previous games, my personal favorites so far (in order of appearance) have been Crimpdigit, Trenchfoot, Bugeye, and WP Grindstump.

If I had to pick out characters I cared the least about, I'd have to say Hemlock McGee, McGillicutty, and Tetra. Even these characters that I find less memorable gave good performances. Apparently they can't have been too forgettable or I wouldn't have remembered them at all.

[Irishmile]

He annoyed me... but he was supposed to be annoying. He is one of those characters.

[Asgath]

I didn't like him myself either. While he was meant to be annoying I didn't like his character at all.

[Mermaid]

I liked him (and watch out: he might still be back in chapter 5!!).

When he first appeared, opening the door to let Guybrush in I thought "Who's this?? He does not fit in the MI world at all." but I got used to him, found he had a great voice actor, too, and truly enjoyed him for being so different from the rest of the crew.

[Vira]

I thought he was great.

But I gotta agree that there are a lot of forgettable supporting characters in TMI. I can't remember most of their names outside of Morgan, Winslow, De Cava, the frat boy trio, and De Singe.

[Mermaid]

Actually, he reminded me of that character in Black Adder (The Third) with Rowan Atkinson...Since I liked the series, maybe this is why I liked his character..

[Falanca]

Originally Posted by Vira

I thought he was great.

But I gotta agree that there are a lot of forgettable supporting characters in TMI. I can't remember most of their names outside of Morgan, Winslow, De Cava, the frat boy trio, and De Singe.

Should be more than that, anyway? Old games slightly have more characters, okay, but I believe the real reason why one can remember all of them is that old games weren't sliced into 5 different parts. This means, because the game is big enough in itself, there are more puzzles, and more than one puzzle may be around only one character, and this means more interaction with this character. The more talking to this character, the deeper scar it carves into your brain. Also, once you get stuck, because there are more places to go and more possibilities that may solve your problem at the moment, you're forced to talk all the characters in the game you've encountered. It's not like in episodic gaming, for instance, to solve a puzzle in the second episode you don't have to talk to a character in the first episode, and this gives you the chance of forgeting this character after beating the first episode.

It doesn't have to be purely about the quality of the characters, it may also be a quirk of episodic gaming; if you tend to forget the characters in Tales easier than the other games in the franchise.

[Maxilyah]

I like DeSinge. I mean, I dislike him because he's a villain, but I dislike him to the point where it's funny and I like him.
Does that make sense?
No?
I'll just go somewhere else.

[Mermaid]

Originally Posted by Maxilyah

I like DeSinge. I mean, I dislike him because he's a villain, but I dislike him to the point where it's funny and I like him.
Does that make sense?
No?
I'll just go somewhere else.

How could you possibly _not_ like a villain...? I always liked the villain better than the protagonist. The villain's more powerful, sexier and usually has a greater aura then Mr. Good Guy.

Take Alan Rickman vs sorry-excuse-fo-a-Robin-Hood Kevin Costner for example.

[bobtheskutter]

I don't like de Singe. He doesn't feel like part of the universe. In fact, he doesn't seem human. The moment I saw him I thought "uh oh- Telltale has dropped the ball on this". I was proved wrong by subsequent characters, puzzles and plot points but de Singe remains an irritant for me.

[coolsome]

I love Desinge hes better then ozzie mandrill ever was because they had him having nothing to do with LeChuck so he can develop on his own

[MarcoPollo]

Originally Posted by Mermaid

Actually, he reminded me of that character in Black Adder (The Third) with Rowan Atkinson...Since I liked the series, maybe this is why I liked his character..

YES! That's who he reminds me of now!

I don't know if I remember this as a throwaway line in Chapter 4, but doesn't De Singe say he's not actually French after all? Leading a confused Guybrush to say that he assumed he was, what with the accent and the clothes?

[Mermaid]

Originally Posted by MarcoPollo

YES! That's who he reminds me of now!

This character also had a very similar line to DeSinge's:

"Would you like to earn some money?"
-"No. I want other people to earn it and then give it to me."

--> "I don't get people. I hire people like you to get them for me."