Next Monkey Island should be made by

[GuruGuru214]

One thing that seems to be ignored here is that Michael Land composed the soundtracks to all five games. If that continues, will it even matter that much whether LucasArts or Telltale does it, as far as the soundtrack goes?

[thin029]

You all have to admit Lucre Island alone (EFMI) had more screens and better background music than the entire Tales thing.
I'm not saying Telltage artists can't do it, I'm saying telltale episodic system and fast-devoloping method probably can't allow them

[GuruGuru214]

Also, I'd like to remind everyone that LucasArts fired its whole adventure game team, many of whom founded or were hired by Telltale. We've never seen anything like a point and click adventure from today's LucasArts, so there's nothing that can be said about them, good or bad. At this point, Telltale is the only one of the two companies who has shown what sort of Monkey Island game they're capable of producing. Saying LucasArts should do it is basically taking a shot in the dark with no way of knowing what you can expect them to produce.

[Spooky666]

I think the problem is, that Telltale has not so much budget than Lucas Arts. I think the best thing could be, if Lucas Arts gives 60 Million Dollars to Telltale, for developing the next Game.

[apenpaap]

Originally Posted by thin029

You all have to admit Lucre Island alone (EFMI) had more screens and better background music than the entire Tales thing.

Yes, Lucre had some pretty good background music and was big, but it also had highly illogical annoying puzzles. It also didn't feel remotely as piratey and adventurous as even chapter 1 of Tales. Still, IMO the first two chapters of Escape are OK, and pretty enjoyable.

[Hassat Hunter]

Originally Posted by Spooky666

I think the problem is, that Telltale has not so much budget than Lucas Arts. I think the best thing could be, if Lucas Arts gives 60 Million Dollars to Telltale, for developing the next Game.

Okay, explain me what's the difference between LA spending X on MI, or LA spending X on MI, but through TTG. Where does the money evaporate in situation #2 that would remain in option #1, as you state would happen?

[Secret Fawful]

I would rather give my money to Telltale to fund their projects, AND get another wonderful Monkey Island game out of it, then to give my money to LucasArts to fund more Star Wars games.

[Spooky666]

The difference is:

Also, I'd like to remind everyone that LucasArts fired its whole adventure game team, many of whom founded or were hired by Telltale.

TellTale should make the better MI-Game. But they should make it even more better with LA's money.

So they could leave this fast episodic production behind

But LA would not do this.

[Hassat Hunter]

Right. Probably mis-interpretated your post.

But yeah, that would be nice. Although I assume the more money LA pumps into it, the more they need back too, meaning they might get a bigger cut of MI sales, which would be worse for TTG.

Bloody finances!

[Ripcord]

I think Michael Land is very talented.

I also think the soundtrack is great, just...out of character for a MI game. The song that especially loses me is the one that's played at the Merfolk home in Episode 2 (and a couple other scenes later on). It's great game music but so out of character for the series. The songs in Ep 3 were great (especially the Manatee's mouth and as Guybrush dives) and one of the reasons that's my favorite episode of the series.

[Ripcord]

Originally Posted by Hassat Hunter

Okay, explain me what's the difference between LA spending X on MI, or LA spending X on MI, but through TTG. Where does the money evaporate in situation #2 that would remain in option #1, as you state would happen?

What? This thread is nonsense. It's like reading this post on some car site:


"hey it would be cool if gm gave lamborgeeni a bunch of money so they could beuild and awesome car and then it could be electic because they would have so much money to work on the car. all you need to beuild a good car is lots of money so it would be aawesome did you see that episode of the simpsons lol"

[Yohmi]

I don’t see what you find so fantastic in EfMI’s soundtrack, I listened to it again after reading your post and well… for me it’s juste like Tales. Synthetic. Ok, but cleaned up of any human touch.
Music in adventure games are very important.

Some masterpieces to me…
The Enlightened Florist, from Grim Fandango (Peter McConnell)
Clockwise Operetta, from Machinarium (Tomas Dvorak)
The Office, from Sam&Max Seasons (Jared Emerson-Johnson)
And of course Mocking the Voodoo, from Curse of Monkey Island
Michael Land has never been better, this tune is just insanely good. And far away from what you can hear in the last two MI branded games.

What they all have in common, is an analogic feeling, harmonics, rubbed strings, air pulled, scratches… Even Machinarium, with purely digital ambiance seems analogic. That’s the feeling I’d love to find again in the next MI. He’s done it with Curse, I’m sure he can do it again. I just hope it’s not budget restriction… but I don’t think MI have a smaller budget than Sam&Max Seasons.

[Secret Fawful]

TOMI did have some great tracks. Not all of them were great though, which is disappointing compared to the first three. However, none of the fourth games tracks were good at all, so TOMI was a step back up.

Notable tracks were Human LeChuck, God LeChuck, The Crossroads, DeSinge (my favorite), DeCava, Diving, Club 41, Voodoo Lady, and the death of Morgan.

[Uzrname]

Originally Posted by thin029

You all have to admit Lucre Island alone (EFMI) had more screens and better background music than the entire Tales thing.

Once again, I don't think you can compare them as in EMI screens were actually 2D, and they weren't hand drawn, hence a lot easier to make that even those of CMI. Tales has a complete 3D environment, fully animated and camera-relative. If something, this doesn't feel at all like the devs just didn't care (which they probably really did not about making EMI).

[Ripcord]

Yeah, don't even compare the EMI graphics to ToMI. They're totally different classes.

ToMI's visuals are very strong, and it's one of the rare 2d-games-represented-in-3d that I really like graphics-wise (Sam+Max is another. Heck, so is Homestar Runner).

The ridiculous EMI makes me throw up a little each time I try to play it (made back when EVERY game was going 3d simply because it was trendy, even though the graphics and gameplay were much, much worse as a result).

[Ash735]

Originally Posted by thin029

You all have to admit Lucre Island alone (EFMI) had more screens and better background music than the entire Tales thing.

I get the feeling this guy is just trolling us, The main Lucre town had good music as was the main map theme and underwater theme, but every interior in Lucre Town was the same song in a sense just arranged differently.

Also complaining about the score is kind of idiotic as Michael Land has worked on them all, saying that LucasArts did it better doesn't actually make sense since it's the same guy scoring (even though he was reduced to just Melee Island in Escape).

I would like however if Telltale could continue the series, but get to use LucasArts sound studios for vocal recording and scoring.

[Ripcord]

Agreed. And this is actually a good reason why this entire thread is ridiculous. "LucasArts should do it because we liked game X" - as if the company autonomously produced the game on its own. As if the output of the game wasn't tremendously to do with the talent and creative environment available. As if LucasArts isn't 100% different now. And as if ANY of the people that worked on the earlier game would be working on it, or that many of the people responsible for those other games aren't involved already.

They might as well just say "should be done by EA".

One argument is that LucasArts would supply more money and this would somehow make things better. Though I'll bet the TT resources are stretched pretty thin, LA or ANY company would not necessarily help with that problem unless they thought the payout would be worthwhile.

And all this is based around the idea that ToMI guys are somehow WORSE than the originals. That's subjective, but I don't think that's true at all.

(Though I bet they ARE a bit stretched on resources, and helping with that might help produce EVEN BETTER games). One way to help with that? Directly? BUY MORE GAMES AND STUFF. Get your friends to buy them. Talk to Mac friends that may not even know TT exists, and point out the new games they just released for Mac. If you know people that "borrowed" or pirated the game, convince them that it's a bad idea, and to support TT. Order the physical DVD. And so on.

[Uzrname]

Originally Posted by Ripcord

The ridiculous EMI makes me throw up a little each time I try to play it (made back when EVERY game was going 3d simply because it was trendy, even though the graphics and gameplay were much, much worse as a result).

Umm well, I wouldn't say it's that bad, but compared to Tales it still sucks.

[Chyron8472]

EMI has a good soundtrack? ...as opposed to what? Okay, sure it's decent but CMI is way better.

okay, listen to CMI's Title Theme (start @ 50 seconds) and then to EMI's Title Theme. They sound almost identical.
CMI for the win.

I could go on and on about listening to CMI music and knowing right where it comes from.... like the Quicksand, or Shooting the cannon at Murray's boat, or The Blood Island Map...

and how about the most addictive song in the universe: A Pirate I was meant to be!

Can anyone tell me they remember exactly what Ozzie Mandrill's Theme from EMI sounds like without looking it up first? No, I didn't think so.

EDIT: I voted for TTG.

[LowMoralFiber]

Originally Posted by Chyron8472

Can anyone tell me they remember exactly what Ozzie Mandrill's Theme from EMI sounds like without looking it up first? No, I didn't think so.

EDIT: I voted for TTG.

What's really bad is as soon as I tried to think of this, my brain immediately went to DeSinge's theme... Heh heh.