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Old 02/24/2010, 12:34 am   #41
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LeChuck brings up Morgan and claims Guybrush had an affair of sorts to Elaine near the end and she's all "huh?" but doesn't even bring it up later.
I definitely hope she's not going to be all jealous and stuff. It certainly wouldn't have fitted at all if she hadn't been poxed, I don't think. Plus that would mean doing the same thing all over again.

I think the "huh?" has more to do with the fact that she seems to have forgotten everything that happened while she was poxed. I don't see how they could have included her asking about that later in the game, to be honest. Which I'm glad they didn't, it would have seemed out of place. We can assume Guybrush mentioned Morgan, what happened, how she died, and everything off camera. We don't have to see Guybrush explain things that we already know happened.

Anyway, my point is, the way she's been shown, I dislike Elaine. But it is normal to dislike some aspects of someone, and I can see there is more to her, and I want to see that side of her. I understand there is more potential for both story and humour when things go wrong but they can go wrong in ways that don't involve relationship problems.
I was mostly indifferent to Elaine in the first two games. She was an independent, strong woman and that's always nice, but I felt we didn't see enough about her for me to really "know" her. She really felt like "the perfect woman who is head over heels for the hero for no reason we can see".
Later, when we got to see more of her, it was always in situations when we didn't get to see her good side much. And often we didn't get to see her period.

I can dismiss what I dislike about Elaine as being her bad side but I'm sick of seeing pretty much that side only. I wish we could see her interact with Guybrush more, see how they work together towards a goal and so on.
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Old 02/24/2010, 07:26 am   #42
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And often we didn't get to see her period.
I think I can live without seeing that sorry >_>

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I wish we could see her interact with Guybrush more, see how they work together towards a goal and so on.
I second that, it seems like that could make for an interesting story and shine better light on their relationship. It would also be a good opportunity to flesh out Elaine more, because, as has been established, we've seen relatively little of her throughout the games.
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I definitely hope she's not going to be all jealous and stuff. It certainly wouldn't have fitted at all if she hadn't been poxed, I don't think. Plus that would mean doing the same thing all over again.
I got the impression that the pox essentially "brought out the bad" in people. It seemed to me that Elaine's reaction was an approximation of something she might have normally felt a lot more subtlety, but now exaggerated. Also, it made her green.

I can imagine a not-green mirrored scene, with Morgan as an aggressor. I think it makes sense, since she has to fight against Guybrush sometime, since her existence as a ghost is supposed to keep LeChuck's side of the scale equally weighted toward balance.
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Eh, I hope not. If Morgan were to return with a big role again I was kind of hoping she'd at least get more development as a pirate hunter, (I want to find out why she became such a thing even when being a fan of an actual pirate at least!) rather then keep going with this "<3 Guybrush" thing and turning into some female version of LeChuck. :| Wouldn't mind her becoming friends with Elaine instead of constantly being jealous of her, either. She certainly seemed to have no problem with her by the end of Tales, anyway, which I liked because her fangirl resentment toward her at the beginning seemed very childish.
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Wouldn't mind her becoming friends with Elaine instead of constantly being jealous of her, either. She certainly seemed to have no problem with her by the end of Tales, anyway, which I liked because her fangirl resentment toward her at the beginning seemed very childish.
I'd really like to see this too. By the end of Tales, my impression was that Morgan had come to terms with the fact that Elaine was always going to be the only woman for Guybrush, hence her encouraging him to go back and save her after Elaine became LeChuck's demon bride. Plus I'd also imagine that in her non-Poxed state, Elaine would have enough self-confidence and enough faith in her husband to not be jealous of/paranoid about Morgan.

And they could bond over stories of all the ridiculous/humiliating situations Guybrush has put himself in over the years... *imagines*

-Elaine- ...and then he walks in, wearing nothing but a pair of boots and a frilly pink dress!
-Morgan- Ha! Tell me you got pictures!
-Elaine- Well, now that you mention it...
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During the game Guybrush and Morgan developed a friendship and if she returns I'd rather see that.
I wouldn't like something like "she has to follow the voodoo lady and as a result to be GB's enemy even though she wishes to be his friends"... That's pretty much what already happened in season 1 (except then she was bound to her contract to the Marquis).

It would be nicer if she could be a friend of the couple.

You know, when I played Tales, something I didn't mention is how excited I was by the whole "LeChuck becoming human" thing. And when you learned the Voodoo Lady was pulling the strings I was thinking "neat! we're done with killing LeChuck every game over and over again, now he's pox-free and he can be your ally and there can be other enemies for a change!".

I was disappointed when he was faking all along. Human LeChuck was such a neat character, I would have liked for him to stick around.
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I was disappointed when he was faking all along. Human LeChuck was such a neat character, I would have liked for him to stick around.
I was okay with the faking part, but it was dissatisfying that it was not clarified up to what extent the Voodoo Lady was actually in control of LeChuck and his doing. After all, her journal exists and she doesn't deny at all that it belongs to her and that she's done more than obviously helping Guybrush in his quests all those past years.
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I was okay with the faking part, but it was dissatisfying that it was not clarified up to what extent the Voodoo Lady was actually in control of LeChuck and his doing. After all, her journal exists and she doesn't deny at all that it belongs to her and that she's done more than obviously helping Guybrush in his quests all those past years.
i think shes like Dalek Caan of doctor who manipulating advents so they allways meet ant the right time and that theres allways enough handy objects for guybrush to use
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