Thanks for the explanation, Ginny!
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Originally Posted by Secret Fawful
Okay. I know someone from the Dutch side of Belgium, but he doesn't like to talk about the French side; he doesn't like French Belgies so I know absolutely nothing about the French side of Belgium.
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Yeah, it seems they're a bit "at war" sometimes.
About stereotypes: the French stereotype of Belgians is that they're stupid, but it's not a serious stereotype. Just think about every blonde joke you've heard, the French version would have a Belgian instead. But you know, everybody realises it's not fonded on anything.
Philippe Geluck, a Belgian cartoonist and humorist who offen appears on TV or on the radio, makes Belgian jokes all the time. It's how I've heard most of them.
It's not like he suddenly goes "a Belgian walks into a bar", it's more small comments like "he must have been Belgian" when talking about other stuff.
I don't usually found that funny, but when it's a (clever) Belgian guy making these jokes it's funny for some reason.
The stereotype about the Swiss is that they're extremely laid bad, nonchalant, not worried about anything. If you want to pretend you're Swiss, you talk slowly and say things like "the lake isn't on fire" (meaning "no need to rush"). There are also jokes about them being neutral and bankers.
Hmm, the jokes about the Brits are mostly food-related. Things about how delicious British food is as long as it's not originally from Britain, and things like that. Otherwise the stereotype is that they're either super-shy, the type not to hug people and where married couples sleep in different beds, or super-eccentric.
The vision of European people from the south of Europe is that they're more hot-blooded. As in, they're better lovers, but you're probably going to argue and break up pretty fast as well.
For some reason, there is a stereotype about Portuguese women not shaving their legs. Not sure where that comes from.
Hmm, that's all I can think of right now.
About the US towards nudity and sexuality: well I think the US is always (or close to always) divided, and a country of extremes. When I went there I was surprised by the amount of unhealthily overweight people, but I was equally surprised by the amount of unhealthily skinny people, for instance. And I quickly realised that clothes stores didn't seem to have clothes made to fit the average consumer.
I think it's a bit of the same here. Both coexist. You have the extremely puritan people who wouldn't ever wear something as unmodest as a swimsuit, and you have the whole hidden part. In a way, I think it's because the "morality" of it has been so hammered on people that they end up doing things in secret. As a result there is a huge market for stuff like pornography, and at the same time it's considered to be a bad or wrong thing.
I personally find pornography as natural as reading a romance book. It's just not meant to arouse the same part of you. And of course there can be an appeal or not. I find just as stupid people who feel they need to hide that they watch it than people who feel the need to hide that they don't.
I think the problem might be that it's so much said and repeated that sex is wrong and evil and stuff that a) people who want to say "no, it's not" end up overdoing it too and b) people who wouldn't feel bad otherwise end up feeling bad about sex period, even if they wouldn't otherwise.
For instance a religious woman who is married would feel bad about the idea of doing things that
she takes pleasure in because it's been repeated to her that it's wrong so often. Even if she's married so it's okay with her religion anyways.
Well, I guess some religions think pleasure in itself is wrong, but... I can't imagine living like that.
I read once that the most repressed cultures produce the most extreme behaviour as a response. Look at Japan, culturally even holding hands seems very unusual, let alone hugging or kissing to say hi, and there are the weirdest perverts out there. I think it's a natural response, when you're refused something too much, that some people will just start being extreme the opposite way. Actually, it's the same with food, too, come to think of it. That's why so many diets fail.