iPad: Your thoughts?

[natlinxz]

Originally Posted by Rather Dashing

Why not just get something that does Flash, you know, well?

Apple isn't the one doing flash wrong, Adobe is. How is it Apples fault that Adobe doesn't know how to program properly on Apple hardware? That's nonsense. Rather than delay the release of the iPad for a few months while Adobe works on something that probably won't work right, how about apple makes a bold decision like not adding flash support? It makes perfect sense.

And you keep implying that the internet has to change for the ipad. And guess what? It will! So many websites have become iPhone-compatible in the last few years, and it will happen to the iPad as well.

[Comrade Pants]

Originally Posted by natlinxz

Apple isn't the one doing flash wrong, Adobe is. How is it Apples fault that Adobe doesn't know how to program properly on Apple hardware? That's nonsense. Rather than delay the release of the iPad for a few months while Adobe works on something that probably won't work right, how about apple makes a bold decision like not adding flash support? It makes perfect sense.

And you keep implying that the internet has to change for the ipad. And guess what? It will! So many websites have become iPhone-compatible in the last few years, and it will happen to the iPad as well.

Shouldn't you program FOR the standard instead of expecting the standard to change because you're making too much money on the App Store? Apple is making all the moves of the Parasite, my friends. They're playing you all for fools.

[Rather Dashing]

Originally Posted by natlinxz

Apple isn't the one doing flash wrong, Adobe is. How is it Apples fault that Adobe doesn't know how to program properly on Apple hardware? That's nonsense. Rather than delay the release of the iPad for a few months while Adobe works on something that probably won't work right, how about apple makes a bold decision like not adding flash support? It makes perfect sense.

It doesn't matter who is doing it wrong. Even if I was absolutely certain that Apple had valiantly tried, for it's true and noble followers, everything it could while the evil Adobe corporation spit in their faces and laughed mockingly in their faces(while also working with everyone else and being displeased overall with Apple's decision to keep Flash off the iPad), then it wouldn't matter. The iPad would be a BAD DEVICE, and I shouldn't care whether or not it was actually Apple's fault. It would just be a bad device, despite all of Apple's efforts, and it's too bad that it didn't turn out good enough to be worth purchasing.

And you keep implying that the internet has to change for the ipad.

No, I keep saying that anyone who thinks that the entire internet can, should, and will change for the iPad are drooling morons that don't understand that products should work in the real world, and not some magical fantasy land you made up to make some technology company appear more capable than it really is.

And guess what? It will! So many websites have become iPhone-compatible in the last few years, and it will happen to the iPad as well.

http://www.hulu.com/
http://www.youtube.com/
http://www.newgrounds.com/
http://www.kongregate.com/
http://homestarrunner.com/
http://machinarium.net/demo/
http://espn.go.com/
http://disney.go.com/index

Also, pretty much every website for every movie created. Many sites for video games and video game companies use Flash for menus and user interfaces. I just think you are being foolish if you actually expect that every single person that has ever developed a site in Flash is going to marvel at the RADIANCE of the iPad's GLORIOUS REVOLUTIONARY FUTURE, and suddenly decide that they are going to immediately set to work converting their entire works into HTML5.

[Comrade Pants]

Originally Posted by Rather Dashing

It doesn't matter who is doing it wrong. Even if I was absolutely certain that Apple had valiantly tried, for it's true and noble followers, everything it could while the evil Adobe corporation spit in their faces and laughed mockingly in their faces(while also working with everyone else and being displeased overall with Apple's decision to keep Flash off the iPad), then it wouldn't matter. The iPad would be a BAD DEVICE, and I shouldn't care whether or not it was actually Apple's fault. It would just be a bad device, despite all of Apple's efforts, and it's too bad that it didn't turn out good enough to be worth purchasing.


No, I keep saying that anyone who thinks that the entire internet can, should, and will change for the iPad are drooling morons that don't understand that products should work in the real world, and not some magical fantasy land you made up to make some technology company appear more capable than it really is.



http://www.hulu.com/
http://www.youtube.com/
http://www.newgrounds.com/
http://www.kongregate.com/
http://homestarrunner.com/
http://machinarium.net/demo/
http://espn.go.com/
http://disney.go.com/index

Also, pretty much every website for every movie created. Many sites for video games and video game companies use Flash for menus and user interfaces. I just think you are being foolish if you actually expect that every single person that has ever developed a site in Flash is going to marvel at the RADIANCE of the iPad's GLORIOUS REVOLUTIONARY FUTURE, and suddenly decide that they are going to immediately set to work converting their entire works into HTML5.

Why don't you tell us what you really think about the iPad? I'm sure you just love it.
I attempted to do sarcasm in text... I failed.

[Rather Dashing]

Originally Posted by Andrew Ryan

Why don't you tell us what you really think about the iPad? I'm sure you just love it.

No, no I do not. If this device wasn't a major product launch, I'd just ignore the thing. "Oh, another crappy device that nobody needs". But this is considered huge, it's considered revolutionary, and it is going to affect people, companies, and products in the future. The iPad is a CANCER, that threatens the very reasons I love computers. It posits that we don't want a world in which I go to Fry's to pick up a new graphics card or stick of RAM or Motherboard. It posits that, if I want to create, to actually CONTRIBUTE something longer than a URL, then I need a $70 accessory on top of my computer purchase. It posits that MY role is consumer. I pay a $500 entrance fee simply to GET INTO Apple's store, and they spend the rest of the time taking a solid 30% off the top of everything I buy. And I will buy, because the iPad isn't a computer, it is a purchasing environment, a consumption system, and I am intended to use it specifically as a portal for my money into Apple's bank account. The idea that these horrible ideas are going to become POPULAR, that they will infect the computer industry and the very way I will continue to be able to interact with my computer hardware...that disgusts me.

[Comrade Pants]

Originally Posted by Rather Dashing

No, no I do not. If this device wasn't a major product launch, I'd just ignore the thing. "Oh, another crappy device that nobody needs". But this is considered huge, it's considered revolutionary, and it is going to affect people, companies, and products in the future. The iPad is a CANCER, that threatens the very reasons I love computers. It posits that we don't want a world in which I go to Fry's to pick up a new graphics card or stick of RAM or Motherboard. It posits that, if I want to create, to actually CONTRIBUTE something longer than a URL, then I need a $70 accessory on top of my computer purchase. It posits that MY role is consumer. I pay a $500 entrance fee simply to GET INTO Apple's store, and they spend the rest of the time taking a solid 30% off the top of everything I buy. And I will buy, because the iPad isn't a computer, it is a purchasing environment, a consumption system, and I am intended to use it specifically as a portal for my money into Apple's bank account. The idea that these horrible ideas are going to become POPULAR, that they will infect the computer industry and the very way I will continue to be able to interact with my computer hardware...that disgusts me.

This is the best argument against the cancerous Apple Corporation I have yet heard. Still... Is there blood in the streets? Of course. Have some chosen to destroy themselves with careless consumerism? Undeniable. But I will make no proclamations, I will dictate no laws. The Great Chain moves slowly, but with wisdom. It is our impatience that invites in the Parasite of big government. And once you've invited it in, it will never stop feeding on the body of the city.

Also, Apple keeps the Rapture Central Council in fedoras and silk suits, so I'm in no position to complain.

[Jake]

This thread is terrible. Stop role playing as Andrew Ryan, please, or leave the forums.

[Comrade Pants]

Originally Posted by Jake

This thread is terrible. Stop role playing as Andrew Ryan, please, or leave the forums.

But... but I like it here. I'm sure I have, like a fan. Somewhere? Anywhere? Can we have a poll? Please? Pretty please?

[Rather Dashing]

Originally Posted by Andrew Ryan

But... but I like it here. I'm sure I have, like a fan. Somewhere? Anywhere? Can we have a poll? Please? Pretty please?

+1 vote

[Secret Fawful]

Originally Posted by Andrew Ryan

But... but I like it here. I'm sure I have, like a fan. Somewhere? Anywhere? Can we have a poll? Please? Pretty please?

+2 vote

[Jake]

Originally Posted by Rather Dashing

+1 vote

Says the guy who role played as the Videlectrix developers...

[Rather Dashing]

Originally Posted by Jake

Says the guy who role played as the Videlectrix developers...

So...they don't get their own vote?

[Comrade Pants]

Originally Posted by Rather Dashing

So...they don't get their own vote?

And I can't vote as iambecomedeath7?

[Videlectrix]

Originally Posted by Andrew Ryan

But... but I like it here. I'm sure I have, like a fan. Somewhere? Anywhere? Can we have a poll? Please? Pretty please?

-1 vote. We here at Videlectrix find the practice to be counterintuitive to the honest connection of human beings over ARPANET graphics machines.

...also, I totally run the Good Graphicketeers off this account. And I totally intend to finish off that album of Videlectrix manuals and promotional materials sometime. You couldn't possibly ban the Good Graphicketeers, Jake. You're one of them.

[Chyron8472]

Originally Posted by Jake

This thread is terrible. Stop role playing as Andrew Ryan, please, or leave the forums.

Okay, I don't know if you're on Team Argyle or Team Dino, but whatever Team you're on, I'ma join it.

+1337 votes for Jake.


EDIT: on topic, Apple sucks. I'm all for Telltale making games for Apple hardware because it will make TTG money. Telltale is awesome and I hope they become the next household name when it comes to the gaming industry. But, Apple still sucks.

People will buy Apple products because Apple is great at generating sales hype and building hardware that looks pretty and has cool features. However, I would say that anyone willing to pay $60 per month PER PHONE for an iPhone is an idiot. If my wife and I had 2 iPhones, that's $120 per month in bills at the basic rate just to have cell phones. Also, I've played around alot with iTunes, and aside from having a big music store, it really sucks as a media player. I'll take WinAmp any day.

Apple's hardware costs too damn much, and it's too dependent on proprietary software.

[Rather Dashing]

Originally Posted by Chyron8472

Okay, I don't know if you're on Team Argyle or Team Dino, but whatever Team you're on, I'ma join it.

+1337 votes for Jake.

You're stuffing the ballot box.

[GuruGuru214]

Originally Posted by Andrew Ryan

But... but I like it here. I'm sure I have, like a fan. Somewhere? Anywhere? Can we have a poll? Please? Pretty please?

On one hand, the Ryan thing can be entertaining. On the other, you do seem to take it too far in certain threads. Like this one. And that's where I see the line between whatever it is you were doing and actually being a troll.

So...neutral vote?

[Chyron8472]

Originally Posted by Rather Dashing

You're stuffing the ballot box.

I'm not a Republican, thanks.

But anyway, if it gets "Andrew Ryan" to shut up, who cares?

[Rather Dashing]

Originally Posted by Chyron8472

I'm not a Republican, thanks.

But anyway, if it gets "Andrew Ryan" to shut up, who cares?

Presumably Andrew Ryan. Oh, and others with false identities, like myself.

[Chyron8472]

Yes, but that's funny. "Presumably Andrew Ryan" is not.