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Old 04/09/2010, 04:39 am   #1
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I was thinking that we could talk about Batman. This is the thread where anything Batman related goes.

Personally I really like Tim Burton and Christopher Nolan's movies. I also enjoy some episodes of the cartoon every once in a while (btbtb). The subjects of conversation however, are endless. I'm just gonna see what you guys would like to discuss and go from there

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Old 04/09/2010, 04:51 am   #2
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The best Batman movie ever made: Dead End (it's an independent 8 minute short film) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zn53yhjsDM&fmt=18

Watch in fullscreen in a dark room for heightened effect.

Don't read anything about it before watching, don't read the youtube comments etc. There's an amazing reveal that's easily spoiled.
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Old 04/09/2010, 05:05 am   #3
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The best Batman movie ever made: Dead End (it's an independent 8 minute short film) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zn53yhjsDM&fmt=18

Watch in fullscreen in a dark room for heightened effect.

Don't read anything about it before watching, don't read the youtube comments etc. There's an amazing reveal that's easily spoiled.
I'll check that out later. I love fanfiction though. I saw one called batman versus predator once. Pretty cool

Edit: Oh, it seems like we were talking about the same short film

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Mask of the Phantasm is the best Batman film. I have no idea what you guys are talking about.

The Dark Knight and Batman Begins are the first live action films to "get" Batman. Don't get me wrong, the 1989 Batman film isn't a bad movie. It's just that Burton doesn't get Batman, or the Joker for that matter.
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I personally love all the films - apart from Batman & Robin. It's awful. I did really like Forever though!

I do think Dead End was very good, especially as indie films go, but I think The Dark Knight, and Mask of the Phantasm wiped the floor with it!

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Dead End is okay, but it doesn't go anywhere, the Joker is a bit annoying, and uh....yeah. The makeup and costumes were perfect, but that Joker. THAT JOKER.

And watching Mask of the Phantasm here recently, it definitely is a great film with great music, BUT...

The Joker was tacked on. Sure, it was a great performance by Mark Hamill, and the Joker was both terrifying and diabolical. But he was out of place. And they ruined the ending of it by showing whats-her-name still alive. I mean, so what, what happened to the Joker? Did he die? I thought they both died...but yet there SHE is. So was her whole quest for NOTHING? EXPLAIN, MOVIE! EXPLAIN!!

Now I will admit some things the movie did beautifully was the portrayal of Bruce Wayne/Batman, which was the best in the series. The humor was spot on, as was Alfred, and the romance, and the action. The look and feel of the movie was great, and it was a very well written mystery.

Personally my favorite Batman movie is The Batman-Superman Movie. I love the dynamic with Batman and Superman contrasted with the dynamic between Lex Luthor and The Joker. And of course Harley Quinn and Lex's...eh...driver also had a small sub rivalry? The whole thing was done very well, and it's a very underrated classic.

However, on an unrelated note, my favorite DC animated movies fall somewhere in-between Batman-Superman, Wonder Woman, or Green Lantern: First Flight.
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This might be is missing the point and pedantic, but what possible word could they have in the headline before "chortle"? I can only think of "We" that would fit, and that'd be really weird.

It's like sometimes in films where the scene starts mid-conversation and you wonder "what the hell was said before we arrived here that could lead to that line of dialogue?" I can't really think of a good example for that, but I can think of two examples for a similar effect that happens in movies a lot where dialogue isn't necessarily involved: The first one is in Forgetting Sarah Marshall (just because I watched it earlier) where two of the main characters just sort of bump into eachother while they're paddling on surfboards and they're like "oh! hi!" but if you think about it, how the hell did they only just notice each other? They're in the middle of the sea! And the second one is at the end of cloverfield where the monster has apparently snook up on the main characters without them noticing in the middle of a field. How the hell did they not see or hear him coming?!

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I like batman beyond return of the joker

I also love the joker XD
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I also love the joker XD
Oh crap! How did I forget about this one! I retract my previous post; this one is definitely my favorite. How it tied in the Animated Series with that screwed up ending, and what the Joker did to Tim Drake. That was insane, and definitely definitely the best story DC Animated ever put to film.
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Oh crap! How did I forget about this one! I retract my previous post; this one is definitely my favorite. How it tied in the Animated Series with that screwed up ending, and what the Joker did to Tim Drake. That was insane, and definitely definitely the best story DC Animated ever put to film.
The Joker revealing Joker Jr (that sounds wrong) and his "death" was one my fav scenes on tv ever
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Oh crap! How did I forget about this one! I retract my previous post; this one is definitely my favorite. How it tied in the Animated Series with that screwed up ending, and what the Joker did to Tim Drake. That was insane, and definitely definitely the best story DC Animated ever put to film.
What was the ending to the animated series? Did it have anything to do with what was shown as flashbacks in Batman Beyond?
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Old 04/09/2010, 02:03 pm   #14
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What was the ending to the animated series? Did it have anything to do with what was shown as flashbacks in Batman Beyond?
Well, in Return, the flashbacks of what happened to Robin was obviously set in the Animated Series universe, so while it wasn't an ending to Batman, it was an ending to Robin and the Joker, although there are theories that the Robin from the Teen Titans animated series is Tim Drake after the incident with the Joker in Return of the Joker, as Robin in Teen Titans is referenced as being Tim Drake in a Batman cameo in Static Shock [inhale] and yeah, Teen Titans Robin is much more obssessed with taking down criminals and he's much more of a hardcore unhinged badass.

I remember seeing that movie as a kid as well on TV and it completely blew me away. I really loved the Tim Drake Robin, and I don't get or see all the Robin hate everywhere. He's awesome.
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Mask of the Phantasm is the best Batman film. I have no idea what you guys are talking about.

The Dark Knight and Batman Begins are the first live action films to "get" Batman. Don't get me wrong, the 1989 Batman film isn't a bad movie. It's just that Burton doesn't get Batman, or the Joker for that matter.
I'll agree with you on all points mask of the Phantasm, is the best batman movie ever, and well Mark Hamil in my opinon is a hell of a lot better than Heath Ledger.
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I really like the animated Batman universe, I prefer it to both the movies and the mainstream comics. Mask of the Phantasm was great, Return of the Joker was great (as long as you got the uncut version) and Batman-Superman was great.

The latter even got a nod in the mainstream comics, in an issue of 'Action Comics' where the Joker went to Metropolis specifically to mess with Lex Luthor. Harley and Mercy didn't get along any better in the comics...

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It's been about ten years since that comic came out, and I still think it's one of the best mainstream portrayals of Harley, those three pages are fifty times better than her actual series was.
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"And why doesn’t Batman dance anymore? Remember the Batusi?"

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I just popped in to say this thread is out of control
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"And why doesn’t Batman dance anymore? Remember the Batusi?"

3 words. Batman. On. Drugs.
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