Found out why I didn't enjoy ToMi Soundtrack as much as the others

[thin029]

Clint Bajakian didn't help composing it! Seriously! He made the entire Outlaws soundtrack which is one of my favorites ever, and I just recently found out he helped Michael Land with Escape and LeChuck's Revenge music, which are my favorites for the Monkey series.



Here comes the troll accusations

[PecanBlue]

How dare you have an opinion! I call troll.

[thin029]

Hahahahaha, but seriously, last time I stated I didn't like ToMI's rushed soundtrack people got overly angry at me.

[PecanBlue]

I didn't really dislike it, but it's certainly my least favorite soundtrack out of all the games. (yes, even EMI) Something about it is just not as memorable. It's hard to describe but even in the old games the tunes just sounded more lively and "organic."

[thin029]

My feelings exactly

[Ash735]

I still blame the Wii for this, why get a brilliant composer like Michael Land and then restrict him because of some stupid limits on a consoles hardware. The music he done on his own for Curse and Melee Island on Escape are brilliant.

[StarEye]

Originally Posted by Ash735

I still blame the Wii for this, why get a brilliant composer like Michael Land and then restrict him because of some stupid limits on a consoles hardware. The music he done on his own for Curse and Melee Island on Escape are brilliant.

Uhm, hardware restrictions didn't stop the earlier MI games from having some of the best music ever in games. That's really a completely nonsense, and only an excuse to bash the Wii.

The problem with the music in Tales, to me, was that it didn't play an as important role as it did in the earlier games. In Tales, it was less intrusive, less present. It just laid there in the background, and felt like it was there just to have music. For me, in certain games, music should be the main focus to create an atmosphere, and it feels like it was downplayed a lot in Tales. But I guess it could depend on how important you think music is and how much you love music in general.

[Ash735]

Yes but earlier MI Games that were wholly MIDI based didn't have Voices and other sound effects distractions, once Monkey Island got them, the soundtrack itself went fully scored, dialling back to MIDI based but still having the voices and sound effects minimize the feeling of the music even more, plus the samples were short, there were barely any tracks over 1:20.

[StarEye]

What about CMI then? And Escape? Just face it, hardware restrictions is not an excuse for less-than-stellar music. A good song is good, wether it's played through simple PC stereo speakers or a massive HI-FI system. Blaming the Wii for not being able to compose great music is really just plain dumb.

[Admonisher]

Good grief -- I'm a serious collector of film, television and game music, and I can safely say that I rank ToMI as among the best music in the franchise, well above the last two entries! Oh well...

[adventureaddict]

Right now I can't say that TMI's music is memorable, but thats not it's fault. I think after replaying it will give me my opinion. (Just waiting for the dvd to arrive!)

[Hassat Hunter]

@ Stareye: Wait, what? What limitation was there on CMI's OST? I can't think any.

And yeah, sadly, ToMI's isn't as memorable as the others, and I agree that's most probable due to the Wii. S&M series and Wallace & Gromnit aren't as limited in the musical area as ToMI was...

[StarEye]

Originally Posted by Hassat Hunter

@ Stareye: Wait, what? What limitation was there on CMI's OST? I can't think any.

And yeah, sadly, ToMI's isn't as memorable as the others, and I agree that's most probable due to the Wii. S&M series and Wallace & Gromnit aren't as limited in the musical area as ToMI was...

Wasn't it midi?

[Ripcord]

Yeah, that's the problem I had with the music. Not memorable. Too atmospheric and forgettable. Not enough caribbean feel!

I did like the tune as you drop down to find the Manatee. Otherwise it was all reasonably well-done music, but pretty forgettable.

[StarEye]

Ironically, the best piece of music was from Monkey Island 2.

[Giant Tope]

Originally Posted by StarEye

Wasn't it midi?

Pretty sure it wasn't.

[Laserschwert]

Originally Posted by StarEye

Wasn't it midi?

CMI's soundtrack was digital audio with a large share of live instruments... so was EMI. And I agree that it's difficult to compare the effect of the soundtracks from MI1 and MI2 with the later games, because those had voice over and ambient sounds, which "distracts" from the music a bit, and requires the compositions to stay a little more in the background. In MI1 and MI2 on the other hand the music was basically the only soundscape the games had (ignoring the occasional sound effects).

I personally like MI2's soundtrack the best, but ToMI's soundtrack had its high points, especially in the later chapters. I agree though, that the pure MIDI takes a little bit away from the potential the new compositions had.

[monkeymovies]

Again, I disagree. I think Tales' music stands out as some of the better compositions in the series. Maybe not the best original melodies (this belongs to Secret and Revenge), but in terms of the themes carried over from the other games it made excellent use of them, especially Chapter Five when previous themes were made more dramatic than ever before. So they were based from midi. So they had to be compressed on the Wii. So what? Michael Land is an excellent composer and he not only delivered a great soundtrack, but pulled it off as a one man band.

Listen to this and tell me it's not awesome:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzslUbKeLhg

And don't get me wrong, the game did create Winslow's theme, Morgan's Theme and DeSinge's theme, all of which are extremely memorable to me.

Not arguing! Just stating my opinion. It seems like everyone on the board recently has begun to hate or nitpick at TMI these past few months. Hmm...maybe Monkey Island 2: Special Edition has us all distracted or something.

[VeronicanPlay]

I think the music was really great, but then again I haven't really played the other games (Shame on me) to compare the music.

But I think ToMI music caught the mood just right, I can listen to them all in a row, and only very few times do I have to skip one.

[MusicallyInspired]

Originally Posted by thin029

Clint Bajakian didn't help composing it! Seriously! He made the entire Outlaws soundtrack which is one of my favorites ever, and I just recently found out he helped Michael Land with Escape and LeChuck's Revenge music, which are my favorites for the Monkey series.



Here comes the troll accusations

You do know that Clint Bajakian had nothing to do with the soundtracks for SMI or CMI either, right?