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Old 05/14/2010, 02:14 pm   #41
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I have no problem for you liking it because Clint made it.
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And that just... bugs me.
Hum... It seems you do have a problem with that.

So basically, you're telling me in order to enjoy a soundtrack more than another one I have to think ALL its tracks are better, only one, two, three or whatever aren't enough for you. Since Clint worked on only one I listed, and not all the other ones he's not reason enough! Saying "I think I like these soundtracks better because there are tracks composed by Clint Bajakian" is totally unacceptable.

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Old 05/14/2010, 02:22 pm   #42
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Dude, way to quote mine. You missed what I said AGAIN.

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What? I already said I really liked Lucre Island's background song on another topic. It's definitely my favorite and most memorable song for the game. But there's also Jambalaya, the Monkey Kombat tune and many others.
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Out of the three you mentioned, Clint done one. :P
This means that Clint isn't the single reason why you like those tracks more than the tracks from TOMI. It may show that you like certain tracks because Clint composed them, but it doesn't mean that this is the universal reason why those tracks listed are your favorites.

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So basically, you're telling me in order to enjoy a soundtrack more than another one I have to think ALL its tracks are better, only one, two, three or whatever aren't enough for you.
No.

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Since Clint worked on only one I listed, and not all the other ones he's not reason enough! Saying "I think I like these soundtrack better because there are tracks composed by Clint Bajakian" is totally unacceptable.
It's not unacceptable, it just doesn't make any sense? But it seems like you're just not getting this, so what's the point. If you're gonna be a dick to anyone who has a differing point of view, then why are you surprised that you view that there are many "thin029" haters? Hell, if you're expecting everyone to disagree with you then insult them if they do, what's the point of posting this topic if you're not trying to be a troll?

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Old 05/15/2010, 04:48 pm   #43
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Yeah compared to the first four, ToMI soundtracks are not very memorable...
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Old 05/16/2010, 07:18 pm   #44
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It doesn't make any sense FOR YOU actually, but it does for the other posters (besides ash). And I'm not insulting anyone.
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Old 05/17/2010, 01:07 am   #45
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Monkey Island soundtracks in order of my favorite to least favorite:
  • Curse of Monkey Island
  • Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge
  • Tales of Monkey Island
  • Secret of Monkey Island
  • Escape from Monkey Island
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Old 05/17/2010, 07:48 am   #46
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It doesn't make any sense FOR YOU actually, but it does for the other posters (besides ash). And I'm not insulting anyone.
Hey now, I was just making sure you wern't having a placebo effect, just because you saw Clint's name, you automatically liked it all, by finding out which ones you did like proved that you felt more for Clint's work in the game.
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Old 05/17/2010, 11:00 am   #47
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Great! Everyone think it makes sense then! Sorry ash
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Old 05/17/2010, 11:48 am   #48
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Good idea, Felton. My ranking, from favorite to least favorite:
  • Tales of Monkey Island
  • Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge
  • The Secret of Monkey Island
  • Curse of Monkey Island
  • Escape from Monkey Island

I'm curious to know if TOMI is anyone else's FAVORITE score so far. It's a very tough call for me, admittedly ... with time and distance, MI2 may regain the top spot. But TOMI is just cinematic as all get-out. It has such terrific thematic development and integrity ... and I find the incidental music on par with the first two games in terms of memorability, and a notch above COMI and EMI. With SOMI, MI2 and now especially TOMI, I can just cue up the files and play them beginning to end without really getting bored. That's not the case for COMI and EMI, in spite of the live instruments (although both have terrific cutscene music, and "Rollercoaster of Death" is a masterpiece). Anyway ... it's a minority opinion, I know.

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Old 05/17/2010, 12:13 pm   #49
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Anyway ... it's a minority opinion, I know.
We both are!

I don't know what the problem is with this soundtrack. Many people complain of the lack of real instruments, but that doesn't make the quality of the music any worse. The thing here is that, as I see it, in the first two games there weren't any voiceovers so you could appreciate the music almost without anything else covering it.
And then came CMI, which not only had the novelty of voiceovers, but also of real instruments. That's why I think a lot of people have this one in a very high pedestal.
EFMI hasn't got anything really memorable for me, apart from the Melee Island music (which curiously was composed by Land).
But TOMI is in another whole level for me. Sure, it started kinda weak with the first episode, but also the episode itself was pretty weak. And then came episode 2, with its amazing swashubuckling music. Listen to "The Swordfight" of "The Screaming Narwhal" and tell me if that doesn't make you want to become a pirate! That's something none of the others soundtracks have: A level of epicness.
And chapter 4 and 5 are probably the best work Land has composed in his entire carrer. Chapter 4 is dramatic and epic at the same time, and chapter 5 feels like a horror score, which is something we hadn't had since LCR.

Sorry for the long post, but that's why I think. And this comes from a collector of film music, if that makes my post any more better.
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Old 05/17/2010, 12:48 pm   #50
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Well, this is my ranking:

LeChuck's Revenge
Curse of Monkey Island
Tales of Monkey Island
Secret of Monkey Island / Escape from Monkey Island
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Old 05/17/2010, 04:36 pm   #51
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The Tales music was definitely a step down from 1-3. It sounded like a bland imitation, even if it was still Land.
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Old 05/20/2010, 09:00 pm   #52
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It wasn't until recently that I really paid attention to the Tales Soundtrack and I notice that it seems... I dunno how to describe it, it feels less smooth than the others? Listen to all the openings from the games closely, the ToMI soundtrack doesn't have the same quality as the others:
http://www.scummbar.com/tx/games/music/

I doubt TellTales had the same budget as LucasArts and I realize they didn't have real instruments for the sound track but even if you compare the first MI theme with ToMI, something feels a tad off. Its not bad, but I almost feel like they just remixed the CMI theme with synthesized instruments when instead they should have just worked with what tools they had and put their own twist on it. I was also surprised to notice EfMI's theme is near identical to CMI with the exception that they added another channel and a couple more instruments.

Sorry went off on a tangent about the theme songs... As for the rest of the tracks I felt they were okay and more often than not suited the atmosphere. During the darker parts of the game I felt the music had a haunting quality to it that I remember more than the rest.
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Old 05/20/2010, 10:28 pm   #53
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I think the reason why some of you don't think ToMI's music is as memorable is because you haven't had between 10 and 20 years to let it grow nostalgia on you yet.
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Well I agree with both of you, I thought the music was really good.

Good example is All Hands on Deck, when I listen to that track I can just hear the trouble, and that something is wrong. And then watching Guybrush fighting his own hand, makes the track, the feelings it brings to you and what is really going on come together.

The same for the Fight Theme on LeChuck's ship, added to the feelings of terror and sadness for Guybrush as he is fighting for his life.

And that is how the tracks is supposed to work, add to the mood that is going on
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