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Old 05/22/2010, 07:42 am   #1
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Default Are there any fans of Rare on here?

Knowing that there are fans of every{but mostly a few} Lucasarts adventure games on here, I figured I would bring up a company that was once with Nintendo but sadly enough is in need of a serious rescue that company is Rare ltd{known in the past in the generation of the SNES and n64 games as Rareware}. This company has been known for bringing back Donkey Kong...But also giving us a bear and a bird, a james bond FPS that has been wildly considered as the best FPS, and a drunken squirrel who clearly is a complete badass.

So are there even any fans of Rareware on here? My favorite games are DKC and Bad fur day...Alot of people say Rare was better off with Nintendo, I'm one of them.
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Old 05/22/2010, 08:10 am   #2
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I was a fan of rare, but i get the feeling that they had exhausted their creative juices with the n64. Games like Grabbed by the ghoulies were planned for the GC afterall. They would have gone sour whether or not MS bought them. In fact, if MS hadn't of bought them, Nintendo would have been in some sincere financial difficulties.
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Old 05/22/2010, 08:15 am   #3
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I was a pretty big fan of Rare back on the N64. Also Bonkers you forgot about Jet Force Gemini and Perfect Dark. Easy to understand the former although it was a good game, but the latter is almost as good as Goldeneye in it's own way, and unfortunate as it is, the higher res remake on the Xbox might be the best game they've made for that system. Although Banjo Kazooie: N&B is pretty good too.

But yeah after the N64 they did kinda go downhill rather quickly. The one piece of irony that always makes me smile is that the Remake of Conker's Bad Fur Day ended up getting toned down compared to the original, which pretty much flew in the face of the whole "Nintendo is kiddie" thing.
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Rare did really good with nintendo. I may find DK64 confusing, but it's fun

DKC is awesone

Banjo-Kazooie Nuts and Bolts isn't even a Banjo Kazooie game, it just has the character tacked on to make it familiar.
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Old 05/22/2010, 08:38 am   #5
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Yeah Remolay. If it didn't have Banjo and Kazooie tacked on it I think it might have been seen in a better light, but most people were probably expecting the witty platformers of old.

And if I'm being honest, the American Soap Opera style of introducing the characters at the start of a new level makes me cringe.
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Old 05/22/2010, 08:56 am   #6
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I really don't know of any Rare games made for Nintendo systems that I didn't love, except maybe Star Fox Adventures. But that's only because I never really got to play it very much.

I was pretty upset when Microsoft bought them. But at the same time, they haven't made anything good for the Xbox (except Perfect Dark for XBL). I also stand by the fact that the multi-played for the original Perfect Dark was better than GoldenEye.
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But at the same time, they haven't made anything good for the Xbox
Viva Pinata and it's sequel are both fantastic games, Nuts and Bolts was also great.

People need to realise that Rareware of old and Rare of today are not the same company. They have struggled to find a new identity, which Molyneux tried to address. The staff changed a lot during the last generation of consoles, which of course affected the calibre of games they made at the time, though now they now have a fantastic pool of talent.
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Old 05/22/2010, 02:43 pm   #8
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I love rare. Banjo kazooie is one of my favorite games of all time.
I love all but gruntys revenge.
I never understood why people hated nuts n bolts.
All of kazooies moves were technically in the game as vehicle parts
Grenade eggs, eggs, fire eggs, talon trot(as the vehicles alone) flying, high jump. If you just think about it, all of those are in the game as vehicle parts.
Plus I heard they were planning to do the vehicles on nintendo as an idea for threeie anyway.
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Looove DKC. Ah, the memories. Those games were the ones we all sat around a tiny tv and took turns with when I was a young'un.
And I love Viva Pinata. So easy to waste a whole day playing!
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Old 05/22/2010, 03:37 pm   #10
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accept it as cannon or not, it's still not Banjo-Threeie,

Rare is awesome, they can pull stuff off. they can pull off an actual Banjo-Threeie
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Old 05/22/2010, 04:15 pm   #11
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Oh yeah, I'm a fan of Rare to. I loved the DKC series, Killer Instinct, Banjo-Kazooie, Jet Force Gemini, & Perfect Dark games.
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accept it as cannon or not, it's still not Banjo-Threeie,

Rare is awesome, they can pull stuff off. they can pull off an actual Banjo-Threeie
I know and am still waiting for an actual threeie(but believe me from what I heard there were worse ideas for nuts n bolts like it just being a remake of kazooie with a few changes) which I heard they did start on(and if so stop n swop II)
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Is it even possible to be a fan of Rare at this point? What are you enjoying? Viva Piñata: Party Animals?
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I loved Rare back in the day. Their N64 library is nothing short of excellent! But the minute they were bought out from under Nintendo, it was allll over if you ask me. It's too damn bad, I feel like Rare is better suited to Nintendo's audience and philosophy than they are to Microsofts...
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I really don't know of any Rare games made for Nintendo systems that I didn't love, except maybe Star Fox Adventures. But that's only because I never really got to play it very much.

I beat that one, and you didn't miss much with Star Fox Adventures. It became apparent to be quite early on that this game was targeted toward young children. Suffice it to say I was disappointed.
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I always enjoyed their DKC games, I guess Conker was fun but it was to violent for a plushy red squrriel.
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Is it even possible to be a fan of Rare at this point? What are you enjoying? Viva Piñata: Party Animals?
WOW, well done. Rare didn't make Party Animals, Krome Studios did, who happen to be from the other side of the world.
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I beat that one, and you didn't miss much with Star Fox Adventures. It became apparent to be quite early on that this game was targeted toward young children. Suffice it to say I was disappointed.
I liked it, apart from the extremely repetititive battles (i can still hear "Heh, yah, huh!" looping in my head!), and the lack of variation in the VO ("you don't have enough scarabs!" is heard alot, usually in quick succession. It would have been nice if they had recorded the line a few extra times)
They had some imagination in the level design though, i thought.

Given that it was my first starfox game (well, starwing(the original SNES game) was, but i didn't realise that at the time)), i wasn't comparing it to the other games, and saw it as it was.
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My first screen name was Clanker.

My favourite memory of that Banjo-Kazooie forum, which isn't hard because I think it was full of people who weren't particularly tolerant of eleven-year-olds with no social skills, was when a regular whose topics never had anything to do with their titles posted one with the subject "Rare developing for XBOX?" I don't remember the exact words of the responses, but they were along the lines of "I practically had a heart attack until I saw who it was." and "Don't scare me like that!".

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