A flaw in 302 [spoilers]

[doodinthemood]

I got the three blocks in the burial chamber and placed them in the spell cue card thing and stopped the protection spell.
Quite a bit later I asked (I think) the molewoman what three hands meant and she told me it reversed the spell before, but somehow sam had known to put in three hands.

I felt like I'd taken an accidental shortcut somehow. Am guessing there were a few of these, given the difficulty in working in all possible pathways through the 3 reels. Was a bit disappointed with that though.

Anyone else come across any?

[Vainamoinen]

Well, apart from Maximus not knowing about his children...

Really, it's not that much of a flaw. Sam gets three blocks and just assumes that he can jinx the mechanism by adding them. The episode's riddles were dialogue-based more than enough.

[doodinthemood]

The chance of him getting the right combo would have been 1 in 216. He should have put them in any old way and got a duff spell. While there was the standard handful of times I saw a graphical error and thought 'feh', this was the first time in a telltale game when I thought "that's a writing error", and I found it a bit of a shame, in an episode with such great writing.

[adventureaddict]

I don't think I asked the molewoman about it, but I saw on the vampire-protect spell thingy in the molepeoples carriage on the train it had the three hands on it.

[Foolman]

I just assumed adding 3 more blocks in the thing, no matter what was on the outside, would mess up the spell. I didn't talk to the molewoman about it. I did see the vampire-protect spell thingy in the molepeoples carriage on the train, and I guess if it had given me a choice on what to display I would have put the hands out front, but it didn't.

[aHartzell]

doodinthemood:

Good catch. In the original design for this game there WAS a puzzle that required you to learn the "undo code" and arrange the blocks accordingly. It was trimmed out after the first playtest.

[lagamorph]

I get what you're talking about with the multiple pathways causing a few problems. I went to the train reel first, and had a couple of minutes of gameplay before going to the first reel, and seeing the opening credits.

[Avistew]

I'm not sure it's an error. I mean, you still talked to the molewoman in reel one, so technically before you added the hands, so Sam knew what it did.
There were plenty of times Sam talked about things that "had happened" that I hadn't done yet after all.

As for me, I saw the anti-vampire thing and figured adding the hands would cancel the spell. Didn't realise you could ask the molewoman about it, and now that you tell me it sounds more like a hint than something necessary. It's not like you need to know that in order to put the three blocks you have in the three holes there are.

[Epic Kiwi]

Originally Posted by aHartzell

doodinthemood:

Good catch. In the original design for this game there WAS a puzzle that required you to learn the "undo code" and arrange the blocks accordingly. It was trimmed out after the first playtest.

Wouldn't it have been enough to have Sam put the blocks in wrong and say something like "I should probably learn more about moleman magic before trying this" if he hasn't seen the three hand spell in the train yet? Why leave it out entirely?

[splash1]

I sort of figured this flaw out, usually whenever I found a new spell or something; I asked the Mole Woman.
So when I first saw the Vampire Reverse Curse, I asked her and she told me what the three hands meant.

I really don't see any flaws in this game, actually it's all perfect.

[Gman5852]

Originally Posted by splash1

I sort of figured this flaw out, usually whenever I found a new spell or something; I asked the Mole Woman.
So when I first saw the Vampire Reverse Curse, I asked her and she told me what the three hands meant.

I really don't see any flaws in this game, actually it's all perfect.

I am not to sure if you are saying you dont get the flaw or not but i will point it out just in case. I didnt even see the reverse curse before I got the code broken, yes I also thought that it naturally would screw it up. That in reality was the only flaw everything else perfect.

[Avistew]

So do the blocks have other stuff on them? You only ever see the hand side, so I assumed it was the only drawing on them, to identify what each block did (kind of like a label).

[puzzlebox]

There were other images on the blocks - you could see the different faces when they were still in the burial chamber. I assumed you'd have to rotate them into the correct position too.

[Avistew]

Weird... I also remember when the molewoman talked about adding hands to cancel spells I was like "we know that already!" so I assumed she had said that so I'd learn the words and therefore be able to cancel curses put on me by the mole people. I didn't realise they just went away with time (well, apart from the cow hex which vanished the second I tried to do something).

Hey, out of curiosity, is it possible to make Max move as a cow? Both times he turned back into a human the first thing I did (click on max icon in reel 2, use glass on him in reel 3).

[tredlow]

The flaw in 302: WHO THE HELL WAS FILMING ALL THIS?! I mean, someone had to, right? How else would Sameth and Maximus' adventure get recorded in the reels.

[Harald B]

Originally Posted by tredlow

The flaw in 302: WHO THE HELL WAS FILMING ALL THIS?! I mean, someone had to, right? How else would Sameth and Maximus' adventure get recorded in the reels.

It's magic! Seriously though, that's the answer.

[NeatNit]

Originally Posted by Avistew

Hey, out of curiosity, is it possible to make Max move as a cow? Both times he turned back into a human the first thing I did (click on max icon in reel 2, use glass on him in reel 3).

Woah, how did you get Maximus to turn into a human? And... Did he have any clothes on? O_o

And no. You can't make him move as a cow.

[Avistew]

I meant a rabbity-thing, sorry.

[tredlow]

Originally Posted by Harald B

It's magic! Seriously though, that's the answer.

Oh, and WHO WROTE THE NOTE ON THE SKELETONS?!!

[Harald B]

Originally Posted by tredlow

Oh, and WHO WROTE THE NOTE ON THE SKELETONS?!!

I'm guessing the mole people. They've held on to the chest for the past century, so they must have set up the projector to begin with. After they built a wall around it their descendants must have just forgot about it.