Nintendo 3DS

[jeeno0142]

Originally Posted by Secret Fawful

This is an in-game screenshot of the MGS game on 3DS.

Wow. I wasn't expecting it to look like that. That's quite advanced looking.

[guybrush32]

Originally Posted by benzelz

The 3D effect looks cool, but how exactly will it work. I mean, I could play a game at any angle, so how would it know what angle I am playing the game at. It might be annoying playing games in 1 angle.

it's being fitted with a gryoscope and motion sensors so I'd have thought it'd be pretty possible to alter the camera accordingly. Console looks groovy though! want to remain sceptical of it but then I was of the Wii and look how that turned out.

Screen shots look immense as well for a hand held, high hopes!

...and a 3D remake of ocarina is gonna be sweeeeeeeet!

[Hayley the Hedgie]

3D gameplay without the 3D glasses, is it? That's... something else alright. How they've managed that's unreal.

[corruptbiggins]

I'm reserving judgement on the 3D aspect until I can actually see it working in person. The actual device and the rest of the hardware does impress me and I can see me finally replacing my DS Lite.

[SHODANFreeman]

Originally Posted by jeeno0142

Wow. I wasn't expecting it to look like that. That's quite advanced looking.

It looks barely better than PSP. Sure, it's leagues ahead of what DS was, but PSP was launched over 5 years ago with graphics rivaling that.

Originally Posted by Secret Fawful

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and here's one that more closely resembles the 3DS shot:

[Elvenmonk]

Also for the MGS 3DS one they had a team of like 6 people do for a short while. For the PSP one they had a full team and full development cycle to work with it.
http://www.joystiq.com/screenshots/r...ds/3097335/#/0

Look at the new RE game. Capcom has said those're all in game screens. I'm trying to find the trailer for it.

Here it is: http://www.joystiq.com/video/ebc2dc1f

[SHODANFreeman]

Originally Posted by Elvenmonk

Also for the MGS 3DS one they had a team of like 6 people do for a short while. For the PSP one they had a full team and full development cycle to work with it.
http://www.joystiq.com/screenshots/r...ds/3097335/#/0

Look at the new RE game. Capcom has said those're all in game screens. I'm trying to find the trailer for it.

Here it is: http://www.joystiq.com/video/ebc2dc1f

Sorry, but there is no way that is in game. 3DS is more powerful than PSP, but only to the extent that Wii is more powerful than PS2.

[roberttitus]

Originally Posted by Elvenmonk

Look at the new RE game. Capcom has said those're all in game screens. I'm trying to find the trailer for it.

Here it is: http://www.joystiq.com/video/ebc2dc1f

Thanks for posting that... I saw it a few days ago & was planning on posting it here but forgot where I found it.

Originally Posted by SHODANFreeman

Sorry, but there is no way that is in game. 3DS is more powerful than PSP, but only to the extent that Wii is more powerful than PS2.

So you are calling Capcom liars now? The proof is in the footage...

I would also like to direct you attention towards...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A-xxUyJvQQ

[Katsuro]

Originally Posted by roberttitus

Thanks for posting that... I saw it a few days ago & was planning on posting it here but forgot where I found it.



So you are calling Capcom liars now? The proof is in the footage...

I would also like to direct you attention towards...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A-xxUyJvQQ

The Demo isn't really on the 3DS. Yes it might be the technology behind the 3DS, but as long as I don't see it on the screen itself I'll stay neutral about it.
Besides, the RE screenshots could be pre-rendered cutscenes.

[SHODANFreeman]

The video of Kid Icarus looks about the same as what the Wii can handle graphically, so no, there is no way that either of those videos could possibly be real-time in-game graphics on 3DS.

[Secret Fawful]

Originally Posted by SHODANFreeman

It looks barely better than PSP. Sure, it's leagues ahead of what DS was, but PSP was launched over 5 years ago with graphics rivaling that.


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and here's one that more closely resembles the 3DS shot:

I beg to differ. That looks like a blocky PS2 game, 3DS looks easily like something on the 360.


Here. Here's a better comparison picture.

[roberttitus]

Originally Posted by SHODANFreeman

The video of Kid Icarus looks about the same as what the Wii can handle graphically, so no, there is no way that either of those videos could possibly be real-time in-game graphics on 3DS.

You are judging the system's graphical power by one game? Well by that logic, I guess the 360 must be weaker than the PS2 because Two Worlds looks like crap...
Just because Kid Icarus' graphics look like those of a Wii game (which is impressive in its own right) doesn't mean that those are the limit & no game can ever look better. Plus considering not all games would require 3D, there are games that could just disable it altogether to free up processing power for even better looking games.

I would like to also draw your attention to the following 2 articles

http://nexus404.com/Blog/2010/06/07/...ival-consoles/

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3180250

[SHODANFreeman]

Originally Posted by roberttitus

You are judging the system's graphical power by one game? Well by that logic, I guess the 360 must be weaker than the PS2 because Two Worlds looks like crap...
Just because Kid Icarus' graphics look like those of a Wii game (which is impressive in its own right) doesn't mean that those are the limit & no game can ever look better. Plus considering not all games would require 3D, there are games that could just disable it altogether to free up processing power for even better looking games.

I would like to also draw your attention to the following 2 articles

http://nexus404.com/Blog/2010/06/07/...ival-consoles/

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3180250

It's not fair to judge a console's capabilities by a first party game made by the company designing the console?

Also, if you read the rest of that first article, they go in detail about why those claims are illogical.

Oh, and the second article points out that the 3D tech is going to take up a significant chunk of processing power. I think it's pretty bad that they're scaling the power back simply to allow some games to use an ugly 3D gimmick.

[Elvenmonk]

Originally Posted by SHODANFreeman

Sorry, but there is no way that is in game. 3DS is more powerful than PSP, but only to the extent that Wii is more powerful than PS2.

I'm going by what Capcom themselves have said.

Also, this is Nintendo. They don't care about graphics in their games. Many of their first party games are often beaten graphically, especially launch titles.

[roberttitus]

Originally Posted by SHODANFreeman

It's not fair to judge a console's capabilities by a first party game made by the company designing the console?

Also, if you read the rest of that first article, they go in detail about why those claims are illogical.

Oh, and the second article points out that the 3D tech is going to take up a significant chunk of processing power. I think it's pretty bad that they're scaling the power back simply to allow some games to use an ugly 3D gimmick.

I did read the rest of the article.... but who are you going to believe... a person who is actually DEVELOPING A GAME ON THE CONSOLE or some journalist trying to create controversy?

First Party doesn't mean anything... I don't even know why you think it would. There are 3rd Party games that are better looking than 1st Party Sony & Microsoft games, so how is Nintendo any different?

Ugly effect? I would like to point out that you have never actually used a 3DS, so how would you know it is an ugly effect. Most people at E3 who...

[roberttitus]

used one claimed that the 3D effect was awesome & added to the games. Not to mention that it won't hurt gameplay one bit... so in the end what does it really matter (well unless you are such a graphics whore that you have to have graphics matching or surpassing the best looking 360/PS3 titles before you even touch a game... & for the record, I'm not saying you are)?

[Elvenmonk]

Character limit get you there?

[SHODANFreeman]

Originally Posted by Elvenmonk

Also, this is Nintendo. They don't care about graphics in their games. Many of their first party games are often beaten graphically, especially launch titles.

Originally Posted by roberttitus

First Party doesn't mean anything... I don't even know why you think it would. There are 3rd Party games that are better looking than 1st Party Sony & Microsoft games, so how is Nintendo any different?

Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, Metroid Prime 1, 2, and 3 are easily the best looking titles on Gamecube and Wii, all first party titles.

Originally Posted by roberttitus

I did read the rest of the article.... but who are you going to believe... a person who is actually DEVELOPING A GAME ON THE CONSOLE or some journalist trying to create controversy?

Maybe if this supposed developer hadn't chosen to remain anonymous and off the record I'd be more inclined to believe them?

Originally Posted by roberttitus

Ugly effect? I would like to point out that you have never actually used a 3DS, so how would you know it is an ugly effect. Most people at E3 who...

I've never seen anything that claimed to be "3D" that didn't just look ugly.

[roberttitus]

Originally Posted by Elvenmonk

Character limit get you there?

Yep... Stupid PS3 Browser

[MusicallyInspired]

Originally Posted by bubbledncr

I personally don't care much about the 3d effect - its the remake of Ocarina of Time that sold it for me.

I like the 3D and am anxious to see it, but yes. Ocarina is a bigger seller for me.

Originally Posted by BoneFreak

Is this your toaster?

What about this one?