Telltale Games

Mr. Kerstbal · 07/21/2010, 09:46 am

Long post, so here it goes...

*Remember at the dimensional destabiliser, Sam is apparently going to get eaten by a giant beast in his future? And how if you use future vision that giant beast is Max? And how if you use future vision on Sam at the final battle, it shows a giant set of teeth biting? I bet we'll spend a portion of 305 in Max/Junior's giant body as Sam.

*Buster Blaster in space?

*I still wonder who the main villain will be in all this? The narrator would be way too obvious. Junior wouldn't really be any surprise at all. So who is left? Sal? Hell, maybe we won't even have a major villain (although I doubt it). If you think about it, all the set pieces have already fallen in place. Obviously, Sam/Junior has to be stopped, but we pretty much already know what's going on. The only things that haven't been explained are:

-The narrator's identity. Although it's possible he's just that, a nameless narrator. (Doubt it though)
-Why does Max have psychic powers, anyway? Although I feel like that isn't something that has to be explained. Kind of like the Desoto flying to the moon.

*Also, when you visit Sammeth and Maximus' resting place in 301, you could read some ancient prediction written in hieroglyphics. Didn't it say something like "Max will turn into a giant beast and destroy the world"?

All in all, really good episode (as always). Can't wait to see what Telltale's going to do with this season's finale.

Edit: Eh, guess it wasn't that long

The_Hamburgaler · 07/21/2010, 10:39 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Kerstbal

Long post, so here it goes...

*Remember at the dimensional destabiliser, Sam is apparently going to get eaten by a giant beast in his future? And how if you use future vision that giant beast is Max? And how if you use future vision on Sam at the final battle, it shows a giant set of teeth biting? I bet we'll spend a portion of 305 in Max/Junior's giant body as Sam.

*Buster Blaster in space?

*I still wonder who the main villain will be in all this? The narrator would be way too obvious. Junior wouldn't really be any surprise at all. So who is left? Sal? Hell, maybe we won't even have a major villain (although I doubt it). If you think about it, all the set pieces have already fallen in place. Obviously, Sam/Junior has to be stopped, but we pretty much already know what's going on. The only things that haven't been explained are:

-The narrator's identity. Although it's possible he's just that, a nameless narrator. (Doubt it though)
-Why does Max have psychic powers, anyway? Although I feel like that isn't something that has to be explained. Kind of like the Desoto flying to the moon.

*Also, when you visit Sammeth and Maximus' resting place in 301, you could read some ancient prediction written in hieroglyphics. Didn't it say something like "Max will turn into a giant beast and destroy the world"?

All in all, really good episode (as always). Can't wait to see what Telltale's going to do with this season's finale.

Edit: Eh, guess it wasn't that long

I doubt max will be the FINAL villain. I think its gunna be an extra long episode and their is some other threat.

TT has a track record of making the main villain somone completely unexpected. Look at charlie ho-tep. At this point they might as well make it the European tourist.

Bluster Blasters future is going to keep me up at night...

Why cant people just accept the Narrator is just a narrator!?

Its basicly like
"Look! Its new and unfamiliar! We have to kill it!"

SillyStell · 07/21/2010, 11:03 am

I agree with that we might be in Max Jr's guts at some point, perhaps we'll make into Max's brain and have to seperate Jr from Max that way, psychonauts style!

Mr. Kerstbal · 07/21/2010, 11:04 am

Oh, I agree with you on the main villain thing. I'm just pointing out that, unlike season 1 and 2, we don't necessarily need a new main villain for the story to make sense.

I still have no idea who it's going to be, though. Sure, Soda Poppers and Hugh Bliss were unexpected, but they were important characters who appeared in most of the episodes. I doubt it's just going to be some random dude like the European tourist.

Mr. Kerstbal · 07/21/2010, 11:19 am

Actually, when you think about it, it's almost impossible season 3 is going to have one surprise major villain who's behind everything. It's perfectly possible the finale is going to have one more surprise villain, sure. But in season 1 and 2, all the events (except the ones in both first episodes) were all part of one major villain's (or 3 in case of the soda poppers) grand scheme. The episodes in season 3 are all connected by the toybox and the elder gods, but Skunkape, papierwaite, sammun-mak and charlie are all after the toys for completely different reasons. They never were anybody's thralls. I really don't see how this could all be encompassed in one overarching grand scheme.

But then again, Telltale has pretty much proven that whatever's going to happen in the finale will be something nobody of us is expecting.

Edit: I have no idea if what I'm saying is making sense to anyone. English isn't my first language.

Power46 · 07/21/2010, 11:26 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Kerstbal

Edit: I have no idea if what I'm saying is making sense to anyone. English isn't my first language.

Don't worry. Your English seems to be near, if not completely, perfect.

Masta23 · 07/21/2010, 12:05 pm

Please don't tell me Sal is dead.. he is a very likeable character.. would be sad indeed if he has bitten the dust.

thom-22 · 07/21/2010, 12:10 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masta23

Please don't tell me Sal is dead.. he is a very likeable character.. would be sad indeed if he has bitten the dust.

I don't think you can ever say a Sam & Max character is dead, meaning he/she will never appear in another episode. I mean, there have been dead characters in episodes before, Momma Bosco, the people in Hell.

Since the subplot involving Girl Stinky trying to kill Grandpa Stinky hasn't been wrapped up yet, I wouldn't be surprised to see Sal in 305. And that's not wishful thinking since I'm in the tiny minority who has no particular affection for Sal.

Mr. Kerstbal · 07/21/2010, 12:37 pm

I very much doubt Sal has bitten the dust. Why would they suddenly kill off such a new and beloved character like that? It'd be really anticlimatic. Besides, stranger things have happened in this series than Sal surviving that.

Mr. Kerstbal · 07/21/2010, 12:38 pm

This has probably been said an infite number of times before, but I really miss the office and Bosco. The office only for the music, though.

Andorxor · 07/21/2010, 12:43 pm

Harry is probable dead too,because he was searching the stamps in the statue when max destroyed her.

Mr. Kerstbal · 07/21/2010, 12:46 pm

Nah dude, Harry's just chilling in Max/Junior's stomach waiting for Sam to join him in 305

Power46 · 07/21/2010, 12:51 pm

Mr. Kerstbal, please use the EDIT option if you want to add something and your last post was the last post of the thread at the time. It is rather annoying if people double post, and it also tends to get people in trouble, and I wouldn't want anyone to get banned from excessive double posting.

thom-22 · 07/21/2010, 01:18 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Kerstbal

This has probably been said an infite number of times before, but I really miss the office and Bosco. The office only for the music, though.

Do you have the season 1 DVD? It has an .mp3 with the office music. I have like 35 Sam & Max tracks in an iTunes playlist, including 4 from my old Hit the Road CD. "The Office" is definitely a favorite.

Bmask · 07/21/2010, 01:33 pm

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that I'm expecting a giant monster battle between Max and Sal. Sal has been bitten by the bad luck bug and I wouldn't be surprised if it went on into the next episode. I think the villain has been safely wrapped up now and I'd love to see Sam turn to the narrator for advice.

Oh, and as for the pull the chord thing...t'was a reference to Ed Wood, emphasised by the fact that the narrator is a parody of Criswell, a character from the movie and a real life 'actor' in Woods actual films.

Also, Mack Salmon. MACK. SALMON. If I do not see any reference to Mack Salmon in the next episode, I might just be forced to give up playing adventure games.

...maybe.

Power46 · 07/21/2010, 01:40 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bmask

Also, Mack Salmon. MACK. SALMON. If I do not see any reference to Mack Salmon in the next episode, I might just be forced to give up playing adventure games.

For episode 202 they were originally going to have Mr. Spatula be Mack Salmon; however, Steve Purcell said no, he does not want Mack Salmon's backstory to be revealed. In other words, don't hold your breath for Mack Salmon to appear.

KujaIX · 07/21/2010, 01:56 pm

I don’t think Sal is dead. Use future vision on him after he draw the cake: it shows him yelling "Save yourself, babe" towards the sea, which has yet to happen.

Bmask · 07/21/2010, 02:01 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Power46

For episode 202 they were originally going to have Mr. Spatula be Mack Salmon; however, Steve Purcell said no, he does not want Mack Salmon's backstory to be revealed. In other words, don't hold your breath for Mack Salmon to appear.

Now that's interesting...see, I actually don't want to know his origin either, I think there's just so much more parody potential in having the character just pop up randomly with a misguided grudge against the heroes. It would be a nice nod to the fans but rather than being self indulgent would act as a decent joke. Not that what we haven't got here isn't solid scriptwriting anyway (the Charlie Ho-tep revelation is easily one of the best reveals in a telltale game thus far, the way the comedy was kept up without being bogged down by any drama was really well done.)

Sir Pantalones · 07/21/2010, 02:08 pm

I hope we get to revisit the office in episode 5, and preferrably while the office building is dislodged from the ground and carried by a humongous Stitch impersonator.

Anyway, having the episode set partly inside of Max (both his body and his mind) would make a lot of sense to me. Partly because that future vision had a giant Max swallow Sam, but especially since a visit to his mind could mean that we would meet the last bit of the normal Max left in there, and that he could use "powers" inside his own brain to help Sam against the parts conquered by Junior...?

Would be a plausible way of reintroducing Max's psychic abilities in 305, in my opinion.

Hassat Hunter · 07/21/2010, 02:44 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir Pantalones

Partly because that future vision had a giant Max swallow Sam

That was in the Dark Dimension though.
So unless you also expect Sam to kill himself with poison and Max to beat Sam to dead with a hammer, don't hold out for it...

07/21/2010, 11:03 am	#43
SillyStell At your window... Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Leicester (In the UK) Posts: 318	I agree with that we might be in Max Jr's guts at some point, perhaps we'll make into Max's brain and have to seperate Jr from Max that way, psychonauts style! __________________ SillyStell, now with 15% more Stell A place where I dump all my art Finding Sanity, my silly lil' comic series

07/21/2010, 12:51 pm	#53
Power46 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 240	Mr. Kerstbal, please use the EDIT option if you want to add something and your last post was the last post of the thread at the time. It is rather annoying if people double post, and it also tends to get people in trouble, and I wouldn't want anyone to get banned from excessive double posting. __________________ Sanity doesn't exist. Sanity, by definition, can not be subjective; however, it is subjective. As a result, it does not fit its own definition, so it must not exist. It seems to me that I am going slightly evil.

07/21/2010, 01:56 pm	#57
KujaIX Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: France Posts: 3	I don’t think Sal is dead. Use future vision on him after he draw the cake: it shows him yelling "Save yourself, babe" towards the sea, which has yet to happen. Last edited by KujaIX; 07/21/2010 at 01:59 pm.

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Email this Page	Search this Thread: Advanced Search

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Anyone else having problems launching Mac version?	bradc	Game Support - General	163	11/23/2012 07:01 am
"S" is for...? Speculation Thread Dragon	divisionten	Sam & Max Series Discussion	64	07/20/2010 02:43 pm
Beyond the Alley of the Dolls Speculation Thread	queen_of_the_lobsters	Sam & Max Series Discussion	311	07/20/2010 12:12 pm
Mystery Shirts Speculation Thread! (spoilers?)	splash1	Strong Bad General Discussion	42	03/15/2009 01:30 pm
the story discussion and speculation thread Spoiler warning	Dangerzone	Sam & Max Series Discussion	1	02/09/2007 04:06 pm

07/21/2010, 09:46 am	#41
Mr. Kerstbal Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 17	Long post, so here it goes... Remember at the dimensional destabiliser, Sam is apparently going to get eaten by a giant beast in his future? And how if you use future vision that giant beast is Max? And how if you use future vision on Sam at the final battle, it shows a giant set of teeth biting? I bet we'll spend a portion of 305 in Max/Junior's giant body as Sam. Buster Blaster in space? I still wonder who the main villain will be in all this? The narrator would be way too obvious. Junior wouldn't really be any surprise at all. So who is left? Sal?* Hell, maybe we won't even have a major villain (although I doubt it). If you think about it, all the set pieces have already fallen in place. Obviously, Sam/Junior has to be stopped, but we pretty much already know what's going on. The only things that haven't been explained are: -The narrator's identity. Although it's possible he's just that, a nameless narrator. (Doubt it though) -Why does Max have psychic powers, anyway? Although I feel like that isn't something that has to be explained. Kind of like the Desoto flying to the moon. *Also, when you visit Sammeth and Maximus' resting place in 301, you could read some ancient prediction written in hieroglyphics. Didn't it say something like "Max will turn into a giant beast and destroy the world"? All in all, really good episode (as always). Can't wait to see what Telltale's going to do with this season's finale. Edit: Eh, guess it wasn't that long

07/21/2010, 11:04 am	#44
Mr. Kerstbal Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 17	Oh, I agree with you on the main villain thing. I'm just pointing out that, unlike season 1 and 2, we don't necessarily need a new main villain for the story to make sense. I still have no idea who it's going to be, though. Sure, Soda Poppers and Hugh Bliss were unexpected, but they were important characters who appeared in most of the episodes. I doubt it's just going to be some random dude like the European tourist.

07/21/2010, 11:19 am	#45
Mr. Kerstbal Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 17	Actually, when you think about it, it's almost impossible season 3 is going to have one surprise major villain who's behind everything. It's perfectly possible the finale is going to have one more surprise villain, sure. But in season 1 and 2, all the events (except the ones in both first episodes) were all part of one major villain's (or 3 in case of the soda poppers) grand scheme. The episodes in season 3 are all connected by the toybox and the elder gods, but Skunkape, papierwaite, sammun-mak and charlie are all after the toys for completely different reasons. They never were anybody's thralls. I really don't see how this could all be encompassed in one overarching grand scheme. But then again, Telltale has pretty much proven that whatever's going to happen in the finale will be something nobody of us is expecting. Edit: I have no idea if what I'm saying is making sense to anyone. English isn't my first language.

07/21/2010, 12:05 pm	#47
Masta23 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 830	Please don't tell me Sal is dead.. he is a very likeable character.. would be sad indeed if he has bitten the dust.

07/21/2010, 12:37 pm	#49
Mr. Kerstbal Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 17	I very much doubt Sal has bitten the dust. Why would they suddenly kill off such a new and beloved character like that? It'd be really anticlimatic. Besides, stranger things have happened in this series than Sal surviving that.

07/21/2010, 12:38 pm	#50
Mr. Kerstbal Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 17	This has probably been said an infite number of times before, but I really miss the office and Bosco. The office only for the music, though.

07/21/2010, 12:43 pm	#51
Andorxor Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 136	Harry is probable dead too,because he was searching the stamps in the statue when max destroyed her.

07/21/2010, 12:46 pm	#52
Mr. Kerstbal Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 17	Nah dude, Harry's just chilling in Max/Junior's stomach waiting for Sam to join him in 305

07/21/2010, 01:33 pm	#55
Bmask Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 14	I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that I'm expecting a giant monster battle between Max and Sal. Sal has been bitten by the bad luck bug and I wouldn't be surprised if it went on into the next episode. I think the villain has been safely wrapped up now and I'd love to see Sam turn to the narrator for advice. Oh, and as for the pull the chord thing...t'was a reference to Ed Wood, emphasised by the fact that the narrator is a parody of Criswell, a character from the movie and a real life 'actor' in Woods actual films. Also, Mack Salmon. MACK. SALMON. If I do not see any reference to Mack Salmon in the next episode, I might just be forced to give up playing adventure games. ...maybe.

07/21/2010, 02:08 pm	#59
Sir Pantalones Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 324	I hope we get to revisit the office in episode 5, and preferrably while the office building is dislodged from the ground and carried by a humongous Stitch impersonator. Anyway, having the episode set partly inside of Max (both his body and his mind) would make a lot of sense to me. Partly because that future vision had a giant Max swallow Sam, but especially since a visit to his mind could mean that we would meet the last bit of the normal Max left in there, and that he could use "powers" inside his own brain to help Sam against the parts conquered by Junior...? Would be a plausible way of reintroducing Max's psychic abilities in 305, in my opinion.