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Chyron8472 · 07/29/2010, 02:01 pm

Edited previous posts:

- Fixed the zoomed out LCR Purcell LeChuck icon (the bird's mouth was messed up a bit)
- Fixed the Pyrite Parrot icon (original image was only 128x128, which was not big enough to get icon converters to put all possible icon sizes in the converted file.)

MusicallyInspired · 07/29/2010, 02:07 pm

Someone should make a version of the VGA-sprite Guybrush from SMI from the actual EGA version.

Chyron8472 · 07/29/2010, 10:32 pm

Guybrush on the left is taken straight from the PC EGA version of SoMI.

Guybrush on the right was touched up a bit in the face and drawstrings to create a cleaner look that in some ways better matched the screenshot I got of VGA Guybrush (which has not been touched up.)

Also, both the EGA and VGA screenshots were taken from in front of Melee Town square, but while VGA Guybrush's head is in front of the shadows from the buildings, EGA Guybrush is standing more to the left, outside of the shadows (nearer to the MoLMF) because there is much less ground detail in the shadows there in EGA.

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prizna · 07/30/2010, 01:35 am

Heres my attempt at Spiffy:

Chyron8472 · 07/30/2010, 05:25 am

How did you adjust the opacity of the edges of his bone like that?

The Highway · 07/30/2010, 05:41 am

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Originally Posted by prizna

Heres my attempt at Spiffy:

I unjaggeddyfied the edges here

prizna · 07/30/2010, 06:15 am

I dont know why the edges always go jagged when I make them.

Hayden · 07/30/2010, 07:44 am

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Originally Posted by prizna

I dont know why the edges always go jagged when I make them.

The image format, by any chance?

prizna · 07/30/2010, 07:59 am

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Originally Posted by Hayden

The image format, by any chance?

Im not sure coz everyone else has been uploading pngs that seem to be fine.

The Highway · 07/30/2010, 05:41 pm

maybe it's your image editor?

prizna · 07/31/2010, 12:18 am

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Originally Posted by The Highway

maybe it's your image editor?

I think it may be caused from when I remove the white background.

The Highway · 07/31/2010, 04:29 am

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Originally Posted by prizna

I think it may be caused from when I remove the white background.

that never happens to me

prizna · 07/31/2010, 04:57 am

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Originally Posted by The Highway

that never happens to me

Well I have no idea then, I just take it into photoshop, add whatever I want in the icon to the layer below the flag icon, I then remove the white with the magic wand.

The Highway · 07/31/2010, 05:11 am

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Originally Posted by prizna

Well I have no idea then, I just take it into photoshop, add whatever I want in the icon to the layer below the flag icon, I then remove the white with the magic wand.

hmmmm... that's exactly what i do...

VeronicanPlay · 08/04/2010, 03:14 am

As I haven't used Photoshop in ages I don't remember where or how, but I do know that the Magic Wand has a Feather option somewhere, and that it's used to soften up the jagged edges that it normally makes if there is no Feather on.

Chyron8472 · 08/04/2010, 06:57 am

I've discovered something interesting, frustrating and disturbing.

The original versions of SoMI were made in a 640x400 resolution. Not 640x480.

What this means is that the "Aspect Ratio Correction" option in ScummVM, when checked, stretches the image to fit a 480 pixel high resolution, but that also means that the images ingame are 20% taller than originally designed. I have confirmed this by also running EGA SoMI in DOSBox without specifying any resolution settings.

ScummVM: SoMI EGA without ratio correction ------ ScummVM: SoMI EGA with ratio correction

It also means that SoMI:SE's Classic Mode also stretches the original image to fit the screen. It just goes about it a bit differently than ScummVM does (similar to how it affects images differently in Photoshop when you resize using a different resample method.)

ScummVM: SoMI VGA without ratio correction ------- SoMI:SE Classic Mode

It also means... *sigh*... that I'm going to have to redo my sprite icons on here.

Indicentally, the VGA sprite icon I made came from SE classic mode.

The Highway · 08/04/2010, 07:14 am

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Originally Posted by Chyron8472

I've discovered something interesting, frustrating and disturbing.

The original versions of SoMI were made in a 640x400 resolution. Not 640x480.

What this means is that the "Aspect Ratio Correction" option in ScummVM, when checked, stretches the image to fit a 480 pixel high resolution, but that also means that the images ingame are 20% taller than originally designed. I have confirmed this by also running EGA SoMI in DOSBox without specifying any resolution settings.

It also means that SoMI:SE's Classic Mode also stretches the original image to fit the screen. It just goes about it a bit differently than ScummVM does (similar to how it affects images differently in Photoshop when you resize using a different resample method.)

It also means... *sigh*... that I'm going to have to redo my sprite icons on here.

Indicentally, the VGA sprite icon I made came from SE classic mode.

I actually think a stretched guybrush looks better, taller, you know?

Chyron8472 · 08/04/2010, 07:39 am

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Originally Posted by The Highway

I actually think a stretched guybrush looks better, taller, you know?

Well, decide here:

Stretched (in SE) ------------------------------ Original Ratio

and here:

Stretched (in ScummVM) ---------------------- Original Ratio
(not cleaned up)

Remember how I said before that I had to clean up that image a bit? This is why.

EDIT: Apparently this also applies to LeChuck's Revenge (it was developed in 640x400 res.)

So, while you're at it, decide here:

Stretched (in ScummVM) ------------------------ Original Ratio

and here:

Stretched (in ScummVM) ------------------------ Original Ratio

*GuruGuru214* · 08/04/2010, 11:37 am

I was wondering why some of the pixels looked a little off. It looks like they did a good job of correcting for it in the SE, but all the other sprites were noticeably a bit off. I'll take the original ratio. Thanks for updating them.

The Highway · 08/05/2010, 01:37 am

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Originally Posted by Chyron8472

Well, decide here:

Stretched (in SE) ------------------------------ Original Ratio

and here:

Stretched (in ScummVM) ---------------------- Original Ratio
(not cleaned up)

Remember how I said before that I had to clean up that image a bit? This is why.

EDIT: Apparently this also applies to LeChuck's Revenge (it was developed in 640x400 res.)

So, while you're at it, decide here:

Stretched (in ScummVM) ------------------------ Original Ratio

and here:

Stretched (in ScummVM) ------------------------ Original Ratio

I'd say the SoMI ones look better stretched, while the MI2 ones look better in the original ratio.

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prizna in on bad behaviour Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 1,268	Heres my attempt at Spiffy:

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GuruGuru214 Crazy Windmill Mod Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Kakariko Windmill Windmill Status: Going Around Posts: 6,351	I was wondering why some of the pixels looked a little off. It looks like they did a good job of correcting for it in the SE, but all the other sprites were noticeably a bit off. I'll take the original ratio. Thanks for updating them.