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Old 11/20/2010, 04:29 pm   #101
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I kind of lost interest in the actual books themselves because they turned into too much of a dramafest and fanservice and less of "Harry Potter's adventures at a SCHOOL OF WIZARDS FOR GOD'S SAKE" so in turn I lost interest in the movies. The last book is also my least favorite book. So, I'll most likely wait for the DVD to judge.
^ This. Pretty much the reason I will not see DH in theatres.
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LOOOOVED the Deathly Hollows sequence with the three brothers! I'd really like to know who animated that!
Yeah, that really was awesome. I couldn't have imagined a better representation for the story. I'd really love to see the same sort of thing done with the rest of the Tales of Beedle the Bard.

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However, I haven't read the book since it first came out, so perhaps my memory is a bit foggy. Can anyone tell me if the part where Ron sees an illusion of Harry and Hermione making out in the nude actually happened in the book? I don't remember it, but boy did that make me laugh when it happened.
It's in there all right, but there was nothing about them being naked, and the illusion wasn't made to sound nearly so large as it was. In any case, that scene was both incredibly awkward and hilarious.

I really enjoyed the movie, but I have to throw in a couple of nitpicks. First, it bugged me that Dobby's headstone wasn't shown. That was always really significant to me, and it would've only added a couple of seconds to the film.

My other two nitpicks are more with the Half-Blood Prince. First, the appearance of the white tomb, while necessary, reminded me of how it was totally absent from the last movie, making it sort of seem to come a little out of nowhere. Not too big of a deal. What really annoyed me is still my biggest grievance about movie 6, the destruction of the Burrow. First they add a scene not in the books where it burns down in the sixth film, then it's back and the seventh film pretends that it never happened.

And that's what really grinds my gears.

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Yeah, that really was awesome. I couldn't have imagined a better representation for the story. I'd really love to see the same sort of thing done with the rest of the Tales of Beedle the Bard.
Oh my God, I loved that part. My friend that I went with thought it was too creepy, but I thought it was great.
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Old 11/20/2010, 09:13 pm   #104
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I don't mind Harry Potter. I tried to read a book once and i thought it was badly written. The movies are easier to consume as they take less time. I understand that they are especially interesting for kids but if you have read a lot of SF&F books then it just isn't amazing as there exist way better books (prosa, ideas, stories).

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Oh, I had one last gripe that I kept forgetting before now. After he was spared being cut from the fifth film for "being too important later on", Kreacher's role was really minimalized. What really bugs me is that they left out the whole bit about Harry treating him nicely and therefore earning his respect and maybe even love, particularly Harry giving him the fake locket. That had been very significant to me, and it was one of the things I was most sorry to see get cut down.

Edit: Scratch that, I just remembered my one real gripe with them altering the plot. Wormtail's life debt was never called on, and he (presumably) survived the Malfoy Manor incident when he shouldn't have.

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The Men Who Stare at Goats - 8/10

The beginning of this movie was slow as hell, but once it got going (meaning once Bob finally met Lyn and stopped whining about his failed marriage and failing career), it was absolutely hilarious.
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Yeah, that really was awesome. I couldn't have imagined a better representation for the story. I'd really love to see the same sort of thing done with the rest of the Tales of Beedle the Bard.



It's in there all right, but there was nothing about them being naked, and the illusion wasn't made to sound nearly so large as it was. In any case, that scene was both incredibly awkward and hilarious.

I really enjoyed the movie, but I have to throw in a couple of nitpicks. First, it bugged me that Dobby's headstone wasn't shown. That was always really significant to me, and it would've only added a couple of seconds to the film.

My other two nitpicks are more with the Half-Blood Prince. First, the appearance of the white tomb, while necessary, reminded me of how it was totally absent from the last movie, making it sort of seem to come a little out of nowhere. Not too big of a deal. What really annoyed me is still my biggest grievance about movie 6, the destruction of the Burrow. First they add a scene not in the books where it burns down in the sixth film, then it's back and the seventh film pretends that it never happened.

And that's what really grinds my gears.

Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1: 9.5/10
My opinion is pretty much the same here, though it's not like the last thing is hard to explain. There was plenty of time to rebuil the Burrow, and hell, they've got magic, what's stopping them from rebuilding it in less than a week? Oh, and one more complain about Dumbledore's grave, the CG for that was just hilariously bad, it was like something out of an FMV from the PSX era and I'm not even trying to make it sound like hyperbole XD

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Oh, I had one last gripe that I kept forgetting before now. After he was spared being cut from the fifth film for "being too important later on", Kreacher's role was really minimalized. What really bugs me is that they left out the whole bit about Harry treating him nicely and therefore earning his respect and maybe even love, particularly Harry giving him the fake locket. That had been very significant to me, and it was one of the things I was most sorry to see get cut down.

Edit: Scratch that, I just remembered my one real gripe with them altering the plot. Wormtail's life debt was never called on, and he (presumably) survived the Malfoy Manor incident when he shouldn't have.
Oh wow, I almost forgot about those, guess I was too busy enjoying the movie to notice them, but yeah, now it's bugging me too. The biggest problem with the first part of the quote is that in the movies the elves are almost inexistant, so everything that involved and will involve them in these movies will lose much of it's impact (see this movie's ending) =/
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Okay, I saw a list of differences from the book, so I can promise this is the last gripe with the movie that I'll be remembering.

The scene where Dudley finally shows some respect for Harry was cut. I know it was basically plot-irrelevant character development, but it was a huge moment to me when I first read the book, and it's disappointing that it was removed.
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Okay, I saw a list of differences from the book, so I can promise this is the last gripe with the movie that I'll be remembering.

The scene where Dudley finally shows some respect for Harry was cut. I know it was basically plot-irrelevant character development, but it was a huge moment to me when I first read the book, and it's disappointing that it was removed.
I know. That's one of my favorite parts of the entire series of books.
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I'd say my favorite part was where they ended, but that doesn't work because the last few pages of the final book comprise what amounts to the worst affront to literature this side of fanfiction.net.
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Honestly, while the epilogue is nothing special at all, the only thing I found offensive was the children's name (Harry, seriously, just mixing names is not a good idea), just what is so bad about seeing the grown up characters sending their children to Hogwarts?
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Old 11/25/2010, 07:31 am   #112
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I have absolutely no problem with the Harry Potter saga, actually.

Well, except for one: Isn't it a bad idea to put all the sneaky, bigoted kids in Slytherin, all the brave kids in Gryffindor, etc.? The point of a school is not just to teach students about how life works, it's also to build character. If all the evil kids hang out only with other evil kids, they would always be evil! You shouldn't divide children based on their personalities, you should MIX them!

Also, why the hell do Witches and Wizards celebrate Christmas? Isn't magic kind of AGAINST Christianity? That's like rabbits celebrating rabbit hunting season! Unless Jesus counts as a wizard or something.

Also, Hermione Granger's parents may probably be one of the worst fictional parents ever. If you were two normal muggles, who does not know anything about the wizard world, who suddenly received a letter out of nowhere asking for your 11 year old child to enroll in a big, creepy castle with monsters and evil powers, what would you do? You give away your child, right? Instead of letting her go to a normal school and live in a world WITHOUT evil snakes and giant spiders.

Correct me if I'm wrong, because I'd be mighty embarrassed if nobody correct my mistakes, for I'm not a huge Harry Potter fan.

EDIT: Oh, and in The Goblet Of Fire, when Harry's name was chosen for the Triwizard Tournament, WHY DIDN'T HARRY JUST BACK DOWN?! What's the big deal? So, yeah, no one has ever backed down from the tournament, but WHAT'S THE WORST THAT COULD HAPPEN IF SOMEONE DID? Does the world end? Does every wizard explode and die? That Twilight guy would still be alive if only Harry just said "Okay, fine, I'll not go."
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Now I've been hearing a lot of good things about this scene and am tempted to go see the whole movie just because of it. :( Maybe someone will try and drag me to see the movie with them, if that happens I won't object I guess.
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Finally got to see Scott Pilgrim. It was totally awesome and worth the wait
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I have absolutely no problem with the Harry Potter saga, actually.

Well, except for one:
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Isn't it a bad idea to put all the sneaky, bigoted kids in Slytherin, all the brave kids in Gryffindor, etc.? The point of a school is not just to teach students about how life works, it's also to build character. If all the evil kids hang out only with other evil kids, they would always be evil! You shouldn't divide children based on their personalities, you should MIX them!
One.

It's actually a lot more simple than that. All the PROTAGONISTS go to Gryffindor, all the ANTAGONISTS go to Slytherin, and the other two houses exist for arbitrarily-assigned side-characters and sporting events.

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-Would you call Crabb or Goyle "cunning"? Hell, even "ambitious"?
-Ron Weasly is a cowardly bitch
-Hermione strongly fits the definition of Ravenclaw
-Hey did you guys see Neville Longbottom? Daring, nerve and chivalry my ass.
-Every antagonist ever comes out of Slytherin, no exceptions.

Basically, the sorting hat is a bunch of bullshit, and he just assigns characters as plot conveniences.

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The wizards seem to celebrate a far more secularized tradition of Christmas. I did not notice any overtly Christian imagery in either the books or the films' depiction of Christmas. And no, Christians can't really complain about it being "stolen", considering they stole Saturnalia first. You don't fuss when something you've stolen is taken from you, even if it's a different set of folks than you took it from.

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Also, Hermione Granger's parents may probably be one of the worst fictional parents ever. If you were two normal muggles, who does not know anything about the wizard world, who suddenly received a letter out of nowhere asking for your 11 year old child to enroll in a big, creepy castle with monsters and evil powers, what would you do? You give away your child, right? Instead of letting her go to a normal school and live in a world WITHOUT evil snakes and giant spiders.
Three.

While not covered explicitly in the books(to my knowledge), when your child shows an incredible affinity for something, even something you may not entirely understand, the best course of action is to nurture that natural skill. I'm guessing that muggle-borns get a bit more than just the owl-delivered letter, using Voldemort's acceptance as an example.

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Four.

The entire saga of the books is driven by Harry being a foolhardy, overzealous dickhead. If Harry Potter did not always assume he was right and always rush into danger, the entire first book would have consisted of them having a nice first year, and in the periphery Voldemort would end up maybe as far as the mirror before making no sense of the thing, muttering "fiddlesticks", and marching off discontented.
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I suspect i will burn in community hell for stating this but hey why not... :O)

I've seen the HP7a movie and whilst i didn't expect a lot, i certainly expected more, what a puny movie.

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That's a case of a conflict between two of the strong and established narrative rules. While he was an antagonist, he's a sniveling coward, probably the most cowardly character in the entire series. All the same, he was sorted into Gryffindor for plot convenience so he could hang with the magical animal gang and thus betray them. I suppose saying "no exceptions" was wrong, I should have said "no exceptions that aren't insanely stupid for reasons explained by another rule".
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I used to really like the HP series, I own all the books and I re-read them recently. And it suddenly struck me that round about the fourth book the wizarding attitude to Muggles starts to become really patronising, and later it's outright offensive. "Oh those silly Muggles, they use ridiculous things like electricity and stiches and metal wands that go bang, clearly we must wipe their memories at every available opportunity because they're just so silly and we know best." The whole thing smacks of British colonialism in the worst possible way. "oh you silly natives, you don't know how to run your country, we'll just take it off you and run it properly!"

You know what I'd like to see? I'd like to see an AU fic where the SAS storm the Death Eater hideout and shoot the bastards. Does a Shield Charm work on bullets? More importantly, can you cast one in the space of time it takes for a bullet to leave the chamber and blow your brains out, while you're choking on tear gas? MUGGLE MAGIC BITCHES.
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