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**Jake** · 10/12/2007, 08:17 am

I've gone 2 years and am getting 50+ fps with everything dialed up... so you're barely over the limit, it seems.

ShaggE · 10/12/2007, 10:51 am

Isn't Portal based on the original Source engine? (as opposed to the beefed up Source in E1, E2, and TF2) It seemed that way from the videos I saw, and you'd think a 3 y/o PC could pull off old Source without many issues. :S

**Jake** · 10/12/2007, 11:24 am

... no its using the "new" Source engine. It's got realtime motion blur and the dynamic light exposure stuff, all the other crazy doodads. It's still the Source engine, though, which is pretty scalable.

ShaggE · 10/12/2007, 01:05 pm

Oh, I must have seen some old videos, then. (or they just didn't feature the newness)

You're definitely right about the scalability. Even though it's no longer impressive visually (for the most part, that is. It still can be quite prettiful at times.), it's amazing what it can do on lesser PCs.

And from a modder's POV... godlike.

Wait... what were we talking about again? (Sorry, Source is the new Build engine in my eyes, I can't help but rave about it :P)

**Jake** · 10/12/2007, 01:14 pm

source is no longer impressive visually in general? or do you mean it's just not nice looking on older PCs?

because if you meant the first thing, you would be mistaken.

Kaldire · 10/12/2007, 02:17 pm

Ill never get anything as long as steam backs it :P kiss my arse steam !!! sorry.. never liked any of the games made with source that were FPS.

ShaggE · 10/12/2007, 02:30 pm

I do mean in general, but only because I'm too observant for my own good. The second a polygon overlaps, or a texture repeats too often, I notice it and end up focusing on it. Like the wall textures in HL2: Surprisingly low-res compared to everything else in the game. Blame my analytical personality :P

Plus, I've been spoiled by stuff like BioShock and Crysis.

(Disclaimer: I'm not one of those that actually judges a game based on graphics. HL2 is one of my favorite post-2000 shooters. I just tend to notice tiny things like that.)

*Shauntron* · 10/14/2007, 09:36 am

I built my computer to be a mid-level HL2 box for the first release in 2004 and it did alright. I just managed to lower a few settings such that the latest releases won't crash, and Portal is currently rocking my face.

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Ill never get anything as long as steam backs it :P kiss my arse steam !!! sorry.. never liked any of the games made with source that were FPS.

That's a fun way to close yourself off from all the non-Source content delivery offered by Steam!

tabacco · 10/14/2007, 09:45 am

*sigh*

I miss TF2 and Portal. My PC at home died, so I'm working on my G4 iBook until Apple updates the Mac Pro with (hopefully) a better video card. I may go play some Portal at work later today.

Kaldire · 10/15/2007, 02:39 am

yea I should have been more specific! I do hate the steam system etc.. as for the non source games I dont need steam for most of em.. darwinia is a great example.. dont need steam to play that.. it was freeware until they got ahold of it.
I have to admit my wording was off but yes.. I do like some of the games offered.. :P Thanks for pointing that out XD.

**Jake** · 10/15/2007, 09:00 pm

Darwinia was freeware? Do you mean shareware? I believe it had a demo, and then you paid to unlock the rest. Darwinia is still available off-Steam, direct from the developer, as is Defcon, their newest game.

That said, with the Steam versions, if you ever get a new PC you can just log into Steam and re-download full authorized versions with one click. That's pretty hardcore.

wiedo · 10/16/2007, 04:25 am

yeah that's what i like about Steam. All does DVD's and boxes will get lost (a friend borrows it and never gives it back or something) and now i can just download them when i want to play them (same for S&M BTW).

*Shauntron* · 10/16/2007, 07:23 pm

Beat Portal and.... WOW.

Anyone else feel very surprised by Portal? The game's feel, humor and complexity evolves in unexpected way by its conclusion. Now I don't feel remotely bad about already owning 2/5ths of the Orange Box.

wisp · 10/17/2007, 06:51 am

okay, now you did it...i'm gonna order that thing.

*Shauntron* · 10/17/2007, 04:36 pm

I guess the jig is up: I'm a plant for Valve

Mack Daddy · 10/17/2007, 10:53 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by tabacco

*sigh*

I miss TF2 and Portal. My PC at home died, so I'm working on my G4 iBook until Apple updates the Mac Pro with (hopefully) a better video card. I may go play some Portal at work later today.

Sorry about your PC Tabacco. I was gonna say depending on how powerful your computer is at work maybe you could install Steam on it. Provided it's within the guidelines and procedures of Telltale's desktop work environment policy of course...

tabacco · 10/18/2007, 07:43 am

Yeah, I've been playing it at work, but it's not the same. The upside is that my work machine is actually better all around than my PC at home.

tabacco · 10/19/2007, 03:35 pm

Hey, for anyone who wants to join...

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/friendsoftelltale

That way we can organize games more easily

wiedo · 10/21/2007, 02:33 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by tabacco

Hey, for anyone who wants to join...

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/friendsoftelltale

That way we can organize games more easily

I made an icon for it:

tabacco · 10/21/2007, 07:11 pm

Nice! Added it to the group

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10/12/2007, 10:51 am	#42
ShaggE Deep Mushroom Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,316	Isn't Portal based on the original Source engine? (as opposed to the beefed up Source in E1, E2, and TF2) It seemed that way from the videos I saw, and you'd think a 3 y/o PC could pull off old Source without many issues. :S __________________ "This grass feels funny. It feels like... pants." - Kirby A song. Also a song.

10/12/2007, 01:05 pm	#44
ShaggE Deep Mushroom Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,316	Oh, I must have seen some old videos, then. (or they just didn't feature the newness) You're definitely right about the scalability. Even though it's no longer impressive visually (for the most part, that is. It still can be quite prettiful at times.), it's amazing what it can do on lesser PCs. And from a modder's POV... godlike. Wait... what were we talking about again? (Sorry, Source is the new Build engine in my eyes, I can't help but rave about it :P) __________________ "This grass feels funny. It feels like... pants." - Kirby A song. Also a song.

10/12/2007, 02:30 pm	#47
ShaggE Deep Mushroom Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,316	I do mean in general, but only because I'm too observant for my own good. The second a polygon overlaps, or a texture repeats too often, I notice it and end up focusing on it. Like the wall textures in HL2: Surprisingly low-res compared to everything else in the game. Blame my analytical personality :P Plus, I've been spoiled by stuff like BioShock and Crysis. (Disclaimer: I'm not one of those that actually judges a game based on graphics. HL2 is one of my favorite post-2000 shooters. I just tend to notice tiny things like that.) __________________ "This grass feels funny. It feels like... pants." - Kirby A song. Also a song.

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10/12/2007, 08:17 am	#41
Jake Telltale Team Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,843	I've gone 2 years and am getting 50+ fps with everything dialed up... so you're barely over the limit, it seems.

10/12/2007, 11:24 am	#43
Jake Telltale Team Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,843	... no its using the "new" Source engine. It's got realtime motion blur and the dynamic light exposure stuff, all the other crazy doodads. It's still the Source engine, though, which is pretty scalable.

10/12/2007, 01:14 pm	#45
Jake Telltale Team Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,843	source is no longer impressive visually in general? or do you mean it's just not nice looking on older PCs? because if you meant the first thing, you would be mistaken.

10/12/2007, 02:17 pm	#46
Kaldire Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 886	Ill never get anything as long as steam backs it :P kiss my arse steam !!! sorry.. never liked any of the games made with source that were FPS.

10/14/2007, 09:45 am	#49
tabacco I Feel Fantastic Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Marin County, CA Posts: 2,129	sigh I miss TF2 and Portal. My PC at home died, so I'm working on my G4 iBook until Apple updates the Mac Pro with (hopefully) a better video card. I may go play some Portal at work later today.

10/15/2007, 02:39 am	#50
Kaldire Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 886	yea I should have been more specific! I do hate the steam system etc.. as for the non source games I dont need steam for most of em.. darwinia is a great example.. dont need steam to play that.. it was freeware until they got ahold of it. I have to admit my wording was off but yes.. I do like some of the games offered.. :P Thanks for pointing that out XD.

10/15/2007, 09:00 pm	#51
Jake Telltale Team Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,843	Darwinia was freeware? Do you mean shareware? I believe it had a demo, and then you paid to unlock the rest. Darwinia is still available off-Steam, direct from the developer, as is Defcon, their newest game. That said, with the Steam versions, if you ever get a new PC you can just log into Steam and re-download full authorized versions with one click. That's pretty hardcore.

10/16/2007, 07:23 pm	#53
Shauntron Telltale Video Man Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 487	Beat Portal and.... WOW. Anyone else feel very surprised by Portal? The game's feel, humor and complexity evolves in unexpected way by its conclusion. Now I don't feel remotely bad about already owning 2/5ths of the Orange Box.

10/17/2007, 06:51 am	#54
wisp annoying...and ignored Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: somewhere, Germany Posts: 1,142	okay, now you did it...i'm gonna order that thing.

10/17/2007, 04:36 pm	#55
Shauntron Telltale Video Man Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 487	I guess the jig is up: I'm a plant for Valve

10/18/2007, 07:43 am	#57
tabacco I Feel Fantastic Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Marin County, CA Posts: 2,129	Yeah, I've been playing it at work, but it's not the same. The upside is that my work machine is actually better all around than my PC at home.

10/19/2007, 03:35 pm	#58
tabacco I Feel Fantastic Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Marin County, CA Posts: 2,129	Hey, for anyone who wants to join... http://steamcommunity.com/groups/friendsoftelltale That way we can organize games more easily

10/21/2007, 07:11 pm	#60
tabacco I Feel Fantastic Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Marin County, CA Posts: 2,129	Nice! Added it to the group