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Old 02/18/2011, 01:23 pm   #41
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I just want to say that I think Tales was an excellent game. The writing was great, it was funny, had great puzzles and introduced one of the series best characters (Morgan Leflay). I just thought the controls were a bit awkward . I hope we get to use Graham in this new KQ.
Outside of the controls, it was my second favorite Monkey Island game.
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Like Guybrush, I liked ToMI, and San & Max.. and pretty much all TTG's games...

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Guess, if that so, it will be different. But different can be as good or even better. But I bet you already make up your mind on that, and you will claim everywhere that TTG's KG is bad (even if it's not). That's what fanboys do (compare to fan who let a chance).
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"I can't help but feel that Telltale's reboot of King's Quest to be one step away from treason."
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I may have the wording off, but AWAY from treason, if he means telltale haved betrayed lucasarts, than I think they did that when they all quit and created telltalegames.
One step TOWARD treason would be a better example, but we will see.
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Old 02/18/2011, 01:28 pm   #44
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I have every right to be wary about something when everything Telltale have done in the past has consistently been lowering the bar as far as game design goes. I hoped Telltale would get better but they're getting worse. Seriously, we're not the defensive fanboys here....you are. Defending everything Telltale does. If you like their snooze-fest style gameplay than I'm sure you'll like their new King's Quest but it's not going to be ANYTHING like the originals if that's the case. And as a longtime fan of King's Quest, that upsets me.
A question that comes to mind is why you frequent a forum of a company whose games you seem to dislike to much.
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I don't remember Telltale ever stating they were only going to make Lucasarts style games, so I don't see how this could be considered treason :P. All the whining is preventing this thread from becoming enjoyable.
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Haha. He's kidding, obviously. If anyone was wondering.
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Old 02/18/2011, 01:38 pm   #47
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I was not a fan of Sierra games- though I'll admit I haven't tried them all. I'm excited to see what Telltale can do with King's Quest. In opposition to several voices on this forum, I hope they make this series more like their recent games. As a more casual gamer, I enjoy the direction they've been taken.

That said, if the games reflect the difficulty of the original series despite my personal desire for a more casual experience I will not consider this a personal betrayal of gaming and all that is good and holy- but, clearly, that’s just me.

mmm... passive aggressiveness....

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Could be horrible, could be nice, fully depends on how they do it.
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Like Guybrush, I liked ToMI, and San & Max.. and pretty much all TTG's games...

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Guess, if that so, it will be different. But different can be as good or even better. But I bet you already make up your mind on that, and you will claim everywhere that TTG's KG is bad (even if it's not). That's what fanboys do (compare to fan who let a chance).

oh, you said what I was thinking without being a jerk. Suddenly I feel silly.
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Maybe they can do a retry after any deaths Or two a two tier difficulty like in Curse of Monkey Island.
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I don't remember Telltale ever stating they were only going to make Lucasarts style games
I have linked once to a quote showing abject disdain for Sierra's design philosophy. If anyone wants, I can compile a list of quotes from both Telltale and Sierra that will show that the two companies think COMPLETELY DIFFERENTLY, that Telltale has NO INTENTION of even ATTEMPTING to think the way Sierra does, and that the overwhelmingly powerful probability for the upcoming King's Quest reboot is that it will be a King's Quest game in name only, with all of the similarities being entirely superficial.

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Guess, if that so, it will be different. But different can be as good or even better. But I bet you already make up your mind on that, and you will claim everywhere that TTG's KG is bad (even if it's not). That's what fanboys do (compare to fan who let a chance).
Different to the point of being designed from a diametrically opposed philosophy of design isn't "different", it's a process that will create something with nothing but a surface resemblance to the thing they are ostensibly attempting to emulate. The company is run by people that abhor the means, thought process, and artistic direction through which the King's Quest series was made. I would be less upset if Activision gave exclusive rights to fucking Zynga. And another thing: I am sick of this assumption that comes up everywhere that because I am not at all pleased with something, that I am not a fan or that I don't really care about a particular franchise. Maybe I care about the franchise enough to prefer that the very basic surface view of the thing isn't ripped out and pasted over something with disparate internals. Maybe my disdain for the upcoming game is based on EVEN MORE evidence than your fucking praise, considering MY reaction is based on precedent, interview responses, and an analysis of every product ever released by this company up to this point, while yours is based on empty optimism. MAYBE fans who will take anything that has the name on it, without caring about whether or not the spirit of the original product is actually respected, rather than treated as a piece of garbage that must be discarded because people are busy now when nobody was busy in the 80s, maybe THOSE people are letting blind fanboyism to cloud or replace their judgement. But hey, that's not what I'm here to argue, because I'm not here to punch straw men. I'm here to say this is a bad idea, and if you're not willing to bring anything concrete or valuable to the table in terms of a counterargument rather than slandering me because that's all you have in terms of reasoning, then FUCK YOU.
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Beside, I hope we will see an original game one day. It can only be a good thing for TTG. Making sequel or adaptation is fine (as long as the quality is there) but creating something from the beginning it's better.
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Old 02/18/2011, 01:56 pm   #53
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Nerd rage rocks!

As a LucasArts fanboy who saw TTG as their spiritual successor I do slightly feel as if they have gone to the dark side!

Obviously there is no way a punishing and frustrating game like the original Kings Quest would be a commercial success today, everyone would just use walkthoughs.

But surely if there was a licence that almost guaranteed a reboot be for the hard core adventure fan this would be it?
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If anyone wants, I can compile a list of quotes from both Telltale and Sierra that will show that the two companies think COMPLETELY DIFFERENTLY, that Telltale has NO INTENTION of even ATTEMPTING to think the way Sierra does, and that the overwhelmingly powerful probability for the upcoming King's Quest reboot is that it will be a King's Quest game in name only, with all of the similarities being entirely superficial.
I would actually be quite interested to read that if you could.

RD, is this worse than if TTG had done a Maniac Mansion reboot?
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I'm not sure why people think they have to take sides. I was a fanboy of BOTH companies when I was growing up. I played both company's games equally pretty much.
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Well, personally i would love to play unique puzzle games with a dense story and interesting characters instead of watching content where flat characters and a boring story rule over the nonexistance of puzzles.
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I see your point, but we still should wait it out and see what happens.
As stated Kings Quest cant be that hard anymore due to constant walkthroughs(kind of added to the charm of meatboy though since walkthroughs barely helped there) so we just have to see. It could fail, it could work, but none of us can predict the future.
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Well, personally i would love to play unique puzzle games with a dense story and interesting characters instead of watching content where flat characters and a boring story rule over the nonexistance of puzzles.
I'm a big fan of Professor Layton.
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I would actually be quite interested to read that if you could.

RD, is this worse than if TTG had done a Maniac Mansion reboot?
Maniac Mansion is LucasArts at least.

This is a completely out of left field move, and frankly somewhat baffling. It appears to make no sense from a company that, in terms of style, follows LucasArts much more closely than Sierra - not, of course, that Activision would care, so long as it makes them money! That said, unlike some here, I am at least willing to give them a chance. So come on, Tell Tale, show us what you can do.
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I'm not sure why people think they have to take sides. I was a fanboy of BOTH companies when I was growing up. I played both company's games equally pretty much.
I don't think people HAVE to take sides, I just preferred everything about LucasArts games. I never finished a Sierra game.*

EDIT: *Except for the LSL games, which I loved.
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